ClickIncome Review

anonymous   USA

6:50pm on Sunday, July 25th, 2010 

It is so very unfortunate that you all didn't get with Walt. No one can do it alone but together we could at least get our money back!

Anonymous   Location unknown

11:46pm on Monday, April 12th, 2010

Walt how is the suit going ? have you checked this law firm out since they are in utah make sure they are legit.

anonymous   USA

4:16pm on Sunday, April 11th, 2010 

Sorry folks; the address is gwaseaAbellsoouth.net

anonymous   USA

4:14pm on Sunday, April 11th, 2010 

EVERYBODY listen up. Send an email to "Walt" @ "gwasea@yahoo.com". He was too busy to respond before but he WILL this time. I see the light at the end of the tunnel. If you are unable to reach him; post a note here and I'll help you. We all need our money back!
(I'm remaining anonymous here for now because we are dealing with criminals)!!

PB   Texas

6:41pm on Thursday, April 8th, 2010

I too bought into this scam! It has been a few years back when they came through Texas but have nothing but a simple web site to show for it with no help from anyone! I did not get what I paid for for sure!!! Can anyone advise me on how to go about getting a refund now of if it is even possible?? I'll gladly file any and all complaints necessary to be sure this does not happen to anyone else too!! Any help???

anonymous   same

5:21pm on Thursday, April 8th, 2010 

Everybody; PLEASE contact Walt. There are so many of us victims; I think we can get something positive going.

Walt   Atlanta

11:21am on Wednesday, March 31st, 2010 

No I am not a scammer, just busy. Now have time to look into a law suit against Clickincome. If you are interest contact me. Currently we have 4 individuals. This is on the up and up!! We can be victorious but it will take you and others. Contact me at: gwasea@bellsouth.net

Anonymous   Location unknown

11:16pm on Tuesday, March 30th, 2010

has anyone been contacted by someone wanting to do a class action law suit ?

Jenny   Salt Lake City, UT

8:58pm on Tuesday, February 9th, 2010 

Clickincome and any similar persons that happen to live in Utah have nothing to do with the LDS or Mormon Church!

Clickincome also goes by Auction Success, Empwr Online, and Wealth Power Systems. The owner Brian McAdam, and vice president Deric Gurley got busted big time! For something like $100 K by the Utah Division of Consumer Protection.

Read about it by searching for "clickincome watchdog". Read the blog one.

another anonymous   usa

1:40pm on Wednesday, October 21st, 2009 

Maybe Walt and Milberg Law are scammers too. I think Cliickincome's tentacles extend into some agencies and the Mormon Church.Or perhaps it began in the Church. Plenty of power in both. Note they are located in Salt Lake City and Sandy, Utah.

Anonymous   Location unknown

5:18pm on Friday, October 9th, 2009

Is Walt a scammer also ? Did anyone hear back from him ? I think he may have been trying to just get own info.

another anonymous   usa

2:55pm on Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009 

I have contacted "Milberg.com" and waiting for a response. Perhaps we can all contact them and get something going. Leave me a message here.

another anonymous   usa

2:38pm on Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009 

I also emailed but have not received a response from Walt. Something needs to be done. Has anybody researched class action?

Anonymous   Location unknown

4:03pm on Friday, September 18th, 2009

sent Walt an email but didn't get a response. Has anyone else?

Walt   Atlanta

8:10am on Monday, September 7th, 2009 

Are you interested in a class action suit against this company? Have talked with attorneys, BBB, and Consumer Affairs in Utah. They all agree that class action is the answer to put these scammer out of business. We have lost thousands of dollars and have nothing to show for it like no sales to speak of. If interested contact me at gwasea@yahoo.com.

molly   usa

3:33pm on Saturday, September 5th, 2009 

Has anyone tried small claims or class action?

K   Q

8:41pm on Tuesday, September 1st, 2009 

Clickincome is a ripoff. Save your money, I got scammed for over 4K and received nothing.

Dick   Utah

9:32pm on Monday, August 31st, 2009 

For all of you people out there that have been scammed by Clickincome I feel for you. I was unfortunately an employee there for a short time and saw these con artists in action with my own eyes. They are operating under the name Wealth Power Systems now and are no longer in the seminar business so don't be expecting them to come to your city anytime soon. Brian Mcadams is the President and Derick Gurley is the Vice President. The company phone number is 1800-731-7224 call and harass them if nothing else because they are CROOKS in every sense of the word! Mike Symes is no longer with the company but with another company operating under the name Live Auction Workshops so beware of them coming to a city near you. My advice to all you people who bought into this crap - Don't be stupid people, if it sounds too good to be true believe me it is!

Anonymous   Location unknown

11:00pm on Saturday, August 1st, 2009 

it will not do you any good to get the site up and running, it will only cost you more money each month and you will never make any money.cut your ties while you can.they are nothing but scams.they take your money then nothing no help no service .i invested 20k in this business and two years later only have credit card debt to even prove i was part of their company.

Linda   ONT California

3:18pm on Tuesday, July 28th, 2009 

OH gosh they have been pulling this scam for long time I signed up and bought into it even the credit card bull I had to pay monthly to versign finally I Got fed up with Jennefer and other people in the groups abandonment I had payed the thousands`up front (being mindful of interest rates)I called and sent them email telling them I wanted nothing to do within they're company take me off the list I called verisign after paying monthly for 2years and they let me out of my contract Versign should be on any list for class action for partnering up with clickincome they are suppose to be a secure cc company in fact Mike Symes discouraged use of paypal and had horror stories about paypal

Donald Murray   Nosunshine, FL

11:19pm on Wednesday, July 22nd, 2009

So that is what happened to CI? I have been trying to contact someone for months now. I have a website but has not been published. Is CI functional? Is the dropshipper still in business?

alva   toronto

2:25pm on Friday, July 3rd, 2009 

this clickincome is a 100% money maker for them..the don't give a F__ck about no clients

Carol   Indiana

10:34am on Friday, June 12th, 2009 

To Janet, I did the same thing--spent thousands of dollars and got nothing. I do have my web site but none of the other promises. They had a good thing but let greed take over and then did not fulfill what they sold.

Janet   Ottawa Canada

8:11pm on Tuesday, June 9th, 2009 

I purchased a plan from Clickincome ( May 10/08) with a loan from Aria Financial. I received a call from a Clickincome rep. ( July 9/08), I am ashamed to say that I didn't get his name because the connection was not good and I didn't make a point of getting it before the end of our conversation. He said I could pay off my loan to Aria and then get a Citibank card at a low interest to pay off my other credit card bill. I did that and have paid that debt off. I received an email from Clickincome stating that I had pay the amount of money to Clickincome and that my balance owing was 0. It didn't say that this was to pay off the loan to Aria financial. In Sept. 2008 I got a call from Monterey financial ( who is the real money behind Aria financial I think, because I am now very confused) asking me why I wasn't paying my loan. I explained that I had paid that off. I was told and am still working on this a year later, that because my letter doesn't say that it was to pay off the loan I am still in debt for the loan. I spoke with various people at Clickincome and Aria who assured me that this would be cleared up. Micah at Clickincome seems sincere but has no power to do anything but use the phone and email. Monterey claims that they are going to ruin my credit rating. That's where I am. My son is now trying to get the site up and running but he only has x amount of time and hasn't done it yet. I was afraid it was sort of a scam but I thought it would be great to start a website and felt this might be a good buy. I guess I was wrong.

Anonymous   TX

10:35pm on Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009 

I DON'T THINK THEY GO BACK TO THE SAME PLACE TWICE. I WOULD LOVE TO GET A COPY OF THEIR SCHEDULE JUST IN CASE THEY COME WITHI-IN A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES,I'D SURE BE THERE.

Shirley Andrews   Grand Junction Colorado

12:41pm on Monday, June 1st, 2009 

Went to seminar, only got cd material for $20 , never signed up for unlimited support service,but clickincome keeps sending a bill, which goes up each time is sent out. At the bottom of bill says if you receive this bill in error please contact billing support at billing@clickincome.com,no help there, and have sent bill back to STOP sending the bill and still they keep coming!! THIS IS A SCAM!! I WILL HAVE PROTEST SIGNS IF THEY COME BACK TO TOWN, TO LET OTHERS KNOW OF THIS SCAM!

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molly   usa

9:14am on Thursday, May 28th, 2009 

Thanks to Carol in Indiana. To Anonymous in TX; I would love to do that. Its a really good idea but they cleaned me out. Can't afford anything. If enough of you could get together. It should be effective.

Dan   Indiana

6:31pm on Monday, May 25th, 2009 

Two words: Hidden Fees! When I said I was going to contact BBB of Utah, they quit contacting me. Beware! It's a very hurtful experience! They are nice until you pay money--then nothing. Beware!

Carol   Indiana

10:41am on Thursday, May 21st, 2009 

The CEO is Brian S. McAdam and Deric Gurley is vice president.

Anonymous   Location unknown

8:10pm on Wednesday, May 20th, 2009 

i've got a idea, lets all go to their office at the same time same day and find the person who stole all our money, what a scene we could cause. i'm in TX my credit card could handle one more charge.i'll be checking on how much a flight would cost,what do you guys think?

molly   usa

3:42pm on Wednesday, May 20th, 2009 

Does anyone know who the CEO is? Micah is very nice but totally unable to help.

molly   usa

3:34pm on Wednesday, May 20th, 2009 

I love clickincome's comment abou8t "freedom of speech and the American way" What a load of crap. They couldn't even spell "Utah" right!!
Has anyone tried small claims court? Is there anything that works??!!

collene   tx

11:24pm on Saturday, May 16th, 2009 

to kitty, i was one of the dumb ones who thought they were really going to help me as they promised,as you know they target older people who are not computer smart it's been two years for me and i've lost alot of money you are right about the credit information once they found out i had good credit they hit me hard and convinced me to send more money with the promise they would help me make a six figure income, build me a web site and give me a product to sell after they got my money i could never get any help and since they had me get the cash on my credit card then send it to them it was too late for me to back out when i found out they were really a scam. now i'm paying a 20k debt on my credit card. these people need to be in jail.did they tell you all the same story about a lady who made baskets for her state and was now making a six figure income. wish i knew who she is.

molly   usa

10:56am on Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 

to Frank in Modesto. I am also in Modesto. Do you think we could both stand outside? I could do it Friday. I am one of their victims.
Also to Carol and Louis. I have contacted every consumer group available but no responses. Now I am trying to work with the FBI. One big problem is that no one individual has lost a large enough amount of money. A few thousand here or there doesn't cut it. I think we will have to do a class action.
Also, Frank, can you get local tv coverage? Do we need a permit to pass out flyers or carry signs?

Frank Thomas   Modesto., Ca

5:04pm on Tuesday, May 12th, 2009 

Mike Slyme (Syme) and his newly named Liveauctionworkshop.com is coming to Modesto.

Thur. and Friday 5/14 & 5/15

I am a consumer advocate and want to warn people.
Should I stand outside the meeting center and talk to people? I don't have time to make up flyers.

Louis   Orlando

12:49am on Tuesday, May 12th, 2009 

Wouldn't making a complaint to the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) be better than going to the FBI?

I thought that the FTC busts unscrupulous businesses all the time that operate nationwide?

Carol   Indiana

8:35pm on Sunday, May 10th, 2009 

I did file a claim with the Internet Crime Complaint Center and have not had a response. I also tried to give my e-mail address but the took it out. Sure wish we could do something as a group.

molly   usa

3:22pm on Friday, May 8th, 2009 

To Kitty in SoCsl. You are so right. the drop shipping is crap and they even try to teach you how to hide the true price and shipping! Since you are retired law enforcement, do you know some way to make them pay up?

Kitty   SoCal

4:13am on Thursday, May 7th, 2009 

My spouse and I attended a CI grifter fest at a hotel advertising as a seminar to learn how to make money on E-Bay. It was a joke - a pitiful, obscene joke. We didn't sign up. I'm a retired criminal investigator and realized this was an old-time sting operation, nothing more. They have the first session and then call for a break during which they have people sign up for their monthly training and website production assistance and the drop-ship crap discussed during the first session. If you don't sign up, they don't want you to return for the second session. They tell you this right before they break for the sign-up. This was a dead give-away: they only wanted the people dumb enough to sign up for the first squeeze to return for the second session because that's the high-pressure squeeze where they get the suckers who signed up for the approximately $100 monthly website program/training/drop-ship scams to spring $4k for their merchant account with "Aria Financial" and the "executive" account or whatever it was called which was about another $5k. What was downright comical was when the speaker said he could pretty much guarantee all applicants would be accepted for the merchant account, even if they had bad credit. Another dead give-away that it's a scam is that numerous times they told the people who signed up who would be returning on Saturday for their first training class NOT TO BRING THEIR BINDERS with them. WHY WOULD THEY CARE ABOUT THIS? Because of the 3-day cancellation. They do not want people turning those binders back in and requesting a refund because the contract requires that they be MAILED in in their original wrapper and condition. But by law if you show up in person and want to cancel and get a refund within the 3-day buyer's remorse period, federal law requires them to put through the cancellation then and there and accept the return or forfeit it. By making the suckers have to mail it in, they can drag it out, keep charging the account, claim they didn't receive it, claim it wasn't returned in the original wrapping or good condition, etc., on and on, ad infinitum, all to frustrate you into giving up so they can keep running up your bill.

Here's another little gem they pull (it's in the contract): They can increase the monthly fees they're charging you without notifying you directly. Simply logging onto your site is considered notice, according to the contract.

Folks, last but not least, whenever you sign up for something like this or apply for credit, you're authorizing crooks like these people to run a check on your credit report and get a copy. They will then know your lines of credit with your various credit card and line of equity accounts, etc.. Rest assured that once they learn those credit line amounts available to you, they will begin charging you for rain, blue skies, cats meowing, leaves falling from trees, lovers' kisses and horn honks in a traffic jam. Authorize them to check your credit, sign up for a product, ANY product, and they are off to the races.

Gather your documentation, contact and file claims with the FTC and the FBI, and alert as many TV shows and news channels as you can get to take an interest in this. Try Neal Cavuto on Fox News. The people at Fox News have more guts and brains in five minutes of reporting than most of the other networks and media outlets combined in a week. Keep in mind they (the TV shows and news reporters) will be worried about liability for slander, so get your ducks in a row and double check for accuracy in what you are claiming. Be specific.

Even if you signed a contract saying this or that about you won't complain or speak ill about them or you'll pay this or that or whatever fee for this or that supposed service, ask yourself what they're going to do about it if you decide to stop paying and start talking. If they sue you, the burden is on them to prove that it was a lawful contract and that you breached it. I can assure you that the VERY LAST PLACE these people want to show up is a court room. There's a little thing called "discovery" that the defendant is entitled to. Trust me, these scumbags DO NOT want their contracts made part of a public record, which they would become if introduced as evidence.

These people belong in prison cells and their assets should be seized and liquidated to fund a trust to pay back the victims.

You guys can make it happen. Good luck to you!

molly   usa

11:02pm on Wednesday, May 6th, 2009 

Hello out there. I think there is a chance of prosecution and possible retrieval of some of our money that we have all spent. If enough of you respond; I'll live dangerously and give you my email address. If we can sort of band together we might have some luck.

molly   usa

4:05pm on Thursday, April 9th, 2009 

To Carol in Indiana. Great idea; I didn't know about that agency. OK gang, lets do it!!

Carol H.   Indiana

12:21pm on Tuesday, April 7th, 2009 

All of you should file a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (they work with the FBI) I just filed one. They have a form to fill out and it is easy to do. If more of you would send one, It would help to open their eyes.

molly   usa

1:19pm on Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 

The only problem with a class action suit is that it takes YEARS to make it through the courts. Perhaps if we all submitted a complaint to such as Dateline at the same time we could get something going.

Again, has anyone contacted the FBI?

Carol H.   Indiana

6:36pm on Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 

To Marie in Wa.--How do we get a class action suit started it we don't know who the other people are? I see they got almost the same amount of money from both of us. Mine was $18,330.00. The site reporting on the clicksite builder has been down since the end of Jan. I was told the the reason the SEO part didn't work was because the employee in charge quit and deleted all the files. I am still trying to get some news media attention" I have a completed web site but it is worthless without the search engine optimization so it just sits there dormant. My monthly fees are almost $50.00.

Marie   WA

9:58pm on Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 

Well, here it goes! I am embarrassed to admit that my husband and I were "taken" for BIG BUCKS also like Petty and NJW. In February 2008 we attended a Seminar put on by "Auction Success INC" at a local hotel. After plenty of hype, we paid our $20 and came back the next night. It seemed like finally a way to get a viable internet business set up and a thriving e-retail company producing an additional income was not just a dream, but could actually be realized.
Mike Syme's video and story was very empowering and motivating. The end results was a large investment that we put on a credit card. We were encouraged to seek a new credit card that had no interest and no transfer fees. (Isn’t it ironic that a site suggested we explore was made by one of ClickIncome's alumni??) We went home with a dandy laptop/brief case bag filled with software and workbooks and a promised digital camera (which we never received).
There were several calls for additional training and programs (at additional costs) that we turned down at that time. The first class was on building our website, done on the phone. We spend 1/3 of the allotted time trying to take roll. The rest was in a predetermined format with little or no time for questions. The sitebuilder software was not intuitive or user-friendly. The class ended, and I did not have a working website. I found that the tech support was usually too busy to take my call and rarely answered my messages.
Phase 2, started a couple weeks into the first class when I was partnered with a mentor. I guess the goal was to create a "living-document", business plan. Additionally, I was given information on the possible grants, loans and programs that were available. (My mentor was very knowledgeable, kind and caring. He had his own company and was supposed to be on a contract arrangement with CI).
The problem that I kept facing over and over was what was I going to sell? I was told to just pick something I was interested, informed, or passionate about. (The word niche was never used, and I was suppose to just sit back and think of my product!)
Phase 3. I received a number of weeks of good, solid training about eBay from a different instructor. The class was conducted with good educational methods and delivery was great.
It was at this point I began to read voraciously every current book I could put my hands on that gave eBay information. During this period I began to really try to find out who were the shakers and gurus in the industry. What I did discover was that much of what I had been told (with exception of the eBay class) was not current or worthwhile.
What started out as excitement about something called "dropshipping" with ClickIncome, was really a pipedream. The items were limited and there was NO way I could make any real money selling their inventory. Their prices were unrealistic and too high. I have since learned that everything about them is too high, i.e. a monthly hosting fee of $29.95 (comparing to $6.95 on Blue Host).
I received a call early on from an Aria Financial representative to set up a merchant account. I returned her call numerous times without any results. I still do not have a merchant account.
A SEO class was offered, BUT I told her how could I optimize my website if there was NO website. That was the last I heard from her. In February 2009, I received a call that the sitebuilder had been scrapped and "The On Ramp" software was now available. Great! Another site builder but no instruction! I asked the CI representative how was I to build a website IF did not have instruction on finding my niche. She reiterated “just sit back and think of a product you are interested in”.
I need to digress, Aria Financial DID set up the legal work for my business. So, in April 2008, we were encouraged to invest another chunk of cash ($1,520) in an accounting/tax service with a monthly fee ($29.95) paid directly from our credit card. After the initial contact and collection of money, we have not heard from them except through our credit card statement. With taxes due shortly, I called them today. They claimed that they have sent emails, phone calls and mail correspondence several times. We have received nothing. I have requested that NO more money be taken from our credit card account, (we’ll see).
This story is very much like the frog that gets put into the pan of cold water, and the heat is gradually turned up until he croaks! As time passed and frustrations grew it became apparent to us that we had been scammed. While there were some worthwhile products and services provided, we do not think that this represents a total investment of $18,169.45. Names, emails and contact information that we were given are not currently available. We will contact the various organizations mentioned, but would like to find a way for all of us to band together perhaps in a class action suit.

Carol H.   Indiana

12:16pm on Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 

I am in the process of preparing a complaint to the Internet Crime Complaint Center and will continue with the news media until I get someone's attention. Hope some of you other people are doing the same.

molly   usa

2:22pm on Monday, March 30th, 2009 

going to tv shows sounds good. has anyone gone to the fbi?

collene   tx

11:37pm on Monday, March 23rd, 2009 

maybe dateline or 20/20 would do a story on them i watched a show on 20/20 last night they were going after people who had tried to fraud people in foreclosure.i would like to see this company on tv trying to explain how thay took our money and gave us nothing in return.anyone got any ideals.i would sure like some of my money back.

Carol H.   Indiana

5:37pm on Saturday, March 21st, 2009 

Keep up the good work Steven. I just, last Thursday, sent a packet of info to Greta VanSusteren at Fox News hoping to get her interest. Maybe some more people ought to write to her.

Steven   Grand Rapids, Ohio

4:55pm on Monday, March 16th, 2009 

I have just finished filing a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission about the problems dealing with Clickincome and their illegal operations.
I am not going to stop here either. Any place I can complain, blog or tell my story to, I am going to make some noise.
I will even talk to "Joe the Plumber" if I have to.
My daughter went to school with him. Maybe she has some pull with him.

Carol H.   Indiana

11:55am on Monday, March 9th, 2009 

I agree with you Earlene, I wouldn't even mind the outrageous amount of money I spent if Clickincome would have delivered what was promised. I have been with them for one year and don't have anything to show for my money but a web site that just sits dormant.

Earleen   Montana

6:00pm on Sunday, March 8th, 2009 

I'm with the dissatisfied. I bought into Clickincome because of the website building, training, and followup help, not for the quick money, so I'm not frustrated that way, but beyond the first set of training (which is already out of date) it has been a total bust.
SEO - nothing beyond Welcome to the program & here is what we provide, broken links and incomplete promotional websites throughout the Pangaea group and all questions regarding these aspects ignored. Mentoring duh too, as it seems I have no questions that to apply to this area.
The only part of CI I can promote is the tech support, not what they provide, as most often the reply is "programmers are working on that", but the people onboard, kind, courteous, and helpful if they can and if you can reach them. I have a paper trail, but not quite sure what to do with it all.
BTW the complaints at BBB are over 350 since the article was written and Pangaea has a $10,000,000 fine over the refund policy by UT Div. of Consumer Protection.

colllene   tx

10:19pm on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 

i too wrote to the dr phil show and did get a email back saying they were interested in my story so maybe if more would write they would see how many are affected by these people. pray he will do this show.i don't mind going on national tv and telling what these people do even if it makes me look like a fool.thanks molly i will try to file with the fcc.keep warning others and maybe we can at least slow these thieves down.

Hossain   Toronto

9:26pm on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 

Recently, I have joined a so-called money making seminar using e-bay. I ended up giving $ 20 dollars for DVD and $20 for meeting with MILLIONAIRE Michael J. Syme which will be held on Sat. March 07 at Wyndham Garden Hotel, Toronto.
After reading all scam message about Michael J. syme I decided not to attend. However, I'm worried about my Visa card and about my name with address and phone number which I gave them during registration. Any suggestions......

Carol Hunt   Indianapolis, Indiana

5:19pm on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 

I sure wish I had seen this a year ago. I signed up with Clickincome a year ago--Spent over $12,000.00 and have nothing to show for it. They keep giving excuses or just ignore me. I too had my $7.95 check cashed immediately for a free camera and now one year later I still do not have it or anything else they promised. Dr. Phil did a show on scamming and I wrote to him, sure wish more people would write to him and maybe we could get more exposure of their crookedness.

james   tampa

2:13pm on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 

yes the old clickincome crew are now knows as empowronline and troy stevens and mike syme now currently scam through Thrive Learning institute. so beware of either of these companies

molly   usa

12:31pm on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 

to Collene in Texas and others. try fraud.org, fcc.gov, and ftc.gov
we need to hit these jerks hard and soon!

Don   California

11:42pm on Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 

I never ordered this or even know what this is but, I was billed 29.95 on my credit card for this. I am contacting my bank and then going to contact a attorny or what ever it takes to get my money back

Wayne   Coral Springs, Fl

8:22am on Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 

My wife and I just got charged 29.95 by ClickIncome. We did not order anything and how they got our credit card number is a mystery. We will of course charge it back.

sam   toronto, canada

11:23pm on Monday, March 2nd, 2009 

oh crap. i wish i had seen this blog earlier. i just came from their seminar a few hours ago. The guy who spoke was very convincing. I can't believe this is a scam. Other sites, said that Michael Syme goes by the name Michael James in U.K and elsewhere. I guess these people are not only scamming people in the U.S. They are after Canadians and British too.

So far I only lost 40$ for the dvd and the other upcoming seminar with Michael "Syme/James". Thanks for letting me know about these guys. If it weren't for your messages I would have probably been suckered into this garbage this coming friday.

P Brophy   Sacramento

12:27pm on Sunday, March 1st, 2009 

I too attended ClickIncome's seminar in August of 2008 at Elk Grove, CA. My friend and I were totally underwhelmed by their sales talk. It sounded too good to be true. I had used my credit card to pay the $20 fee, and tacitly agreed to pay their $9.95 monthly service fee. After they tried to talk us into buying their executive business program for $4495.00 I quickly realized it was a scam. I went back home, and called up my credit card co to cancel my existing account with them and asked to be issued with a new card. I also wrote to ClickIncome immediately to terminate my agreement with them as per the agreement signed.
I did send in for the free digital camera they promised every seminar attendee, together with a $7.95 check. The check was promptly cashed by them. This was in August of 2008. Despite repeated phone calls to their Customer Service representatives, I still have not received the camera. This is now March of 2009.

collene   tx

10:52pm on Saturday, February 28th, 2009 

how do you file with the fcc i an willing to do anything that will get my money back. i'll be glad to join up with any and all i just don't know where to start, any information will be appreciated.

molly   usa

2:51pm on Friday, February 27th, 2009 

to Collene in texas and all others. I've been referred to the fcc. Maybe we should all file a complaint??!!

Kathy Wo   Florida

8:18pm on Monday, February 23rd, 2009 

Strategic Financial did my friends' corporation set up and that went really smoothly. Theirs is in Wyoming as well. So did our eBay classes, those were a hoot and we all learned a lot. It's the site promotion and finding products that really was the hard part! Plus if you do what Mike Symes tell you to do, you'll get kicked off of eBay! He's a lying snake of a man! He's traveling the country again after he and another man by the name of Troy Stevens made a new company called Thrive Learning. They have been here in Florida and looks like they are in Oregon or Washington this week. Stay away from them!

collene   tx

11:09pm on Sunday, February 22nd, 2009 

yes strategic is part of this scam,they did my taxes last year and it was a nightmare, it was all done wrong and i had to keep calling asking them if they were going to get them done on april the 14th i called my old cpa and he filed an extension for me.when we got our tax form back i took it to him and he said i would be audited if i turned it in . he prepared my taxes for me . they would not give me a refund either for their poor work. do not do business with them.i have got one of the talk shows interested,we are emailing back and forth right now and they are looking at my information.maybe they will do this show on clickincome a scam.anyone else that wants to join let me know and if they do the show i'll post who and when.

Jamie Atari   Indiana

8:59pm on Sunday, February 22nd, 2009 

We also went to a seminar this spring for Ebay/online auctions. We only registered for the seminar. We paid cash $20 for a dvd. We didnt get any camera, cheap or not. Also a few weeks later a "salesman" called and spoke to my husband. He was rude and unprofessional. He told my husband that if he doesn't sign up with them, we wouldn't make anything of ourselves. haha What a sales pitch, huh? We continue to get billed for $59.70 for unlimited support service, that we are supposedly signed up with and getting? I wrote them tonight and threatened the Attorney General and Better Business Bureau. People, they are ruining our credit! All of us. They have to be stopped.

PAUL STANIZZI & DAVID BUCCIERI   BOSTON, MA

4:18pm on Friday, February 20th, 2009 

We have been receiving billing statements monthly and we didn't sign up for anything but the seminar itself.I didn't even have a computer until february 1,09 but they manage to send a bill for $49.95 for unlimited support service.
Yes this is a gimmick they have you believing that their product can work. You sign up for a seminar they send you a free camera why didn't they hand out the camera's at the seminar,why it's a piece of junk and doesn't work is this one of their products that they sell on ebay. Is that how they make their money. Then they wnt you to purchase the KIT $240 aprox and it would of ended up to be about $5000.00 by time you get through and went to the other 3 seminars that they were offering. Why could they be honest and up front from the beginning.

Mary   Florida

10:24am on Thursday, February 19th, 2009 

I have invested approx 10,000. Is the strategic financial group legit or part of this nightmare.
And does anyone know about the Wyoming corporation part of strategic financial.
I have been receiving invoice from click income with no dates of service for"unlimited support service""along with a past due less than one month later. Would appreciate any feed back regarding strategic financial taxes and corporation,as well as anyone else receiving undated invoices.

Kathy Wo   Florida

10:22am on Wednesday, February 18th, 2009 

Mike Syme is out there on the road trying to steal people's money, he's going to Oregon now. I started talking with some people that we met and partnered with for a website and he's advertising about being in the Portland and Bend area next week. Head our warnings about Mike Symes and Thrive. They are dishonest crooks. Mike Syme and his partner Troy Stevens are bad men that lie to people and never do what they say they will. They tell you that their company they represent will do things that they can't. Then the company is left holding the bag. Don't fall for these snake oil salesmen and their slick approach.

duped   ga.

8:33am on Monday, February 16th, 2009 

can any one figure out how to get this on a t.v station just about everyone watch's dr. Phil or Ophra maybe one of
the show's will expose
that this program is a scam----scam.
and maybe we can get our money back!
duped again!

DUPED   GA.

10:16am on Sunday, February 15th, 2009 

i was reading some of the complaints. someone had a great idea. put this on t.v. and get a class action against these people. clickincome.com , Mike Syme, and all his crooks. if any lawyer's are out would you take on this case. we all could use the money that was stolen from us. it all come's done to these people are crook's.

W. W.   GA.

9:56am on Sunday, February 15th, 2009 

this is one of the worst scam's i have been involved in and it cost 10 times as much or more.
the mentor's i believe are conveniently on vacation
when there are supposed to be teaching everyone
on how to build a website or whatever they are supposed to help you with.

Steven Romaker   Grand Rapids, Ohio

6:50pm on Saturday, February 14th, 2009 

We also fell head first into the pile of s.... I mean clickincomes money pit. I don't think you need to record their empty promises. Just look at the numbers of us that are all saying the same thing about their tactics. Are we all liars? Or is clickincome?
If someone has contacted an attorney and or a TV network about a class action lawsuit, count us in.
Until then we will be blogging in every niche and corner of the net.

WAYNE   GA.

6:46am on Friday, February 13th, 2009 

it did not work for me. after spending $18,000.
the mentor's were to busy to answer my e-mail's
or were out of the office. e-mail's i got were hidden so as i could not read them.

Kathy Wo   Ft Myers, FL

12:20pm on Tuesday, February 10th, 2009 

My friends and I attended one of Clickincome's seminars a couple years ago. It's taken them a long time and a lot of work to break even. But we saw an ad in our local papers last week for a seminar they were putting on. But when we called they said they weren't Clickincome. But they had Mike Syme speak. When we called Clickincome and asked them if they were having a show in Florida, they said they haven't been doing seminars since late last year. After doing some digging it looks like Troy Stevens the old Clickincome VP and Mike Syme have made this new Thrive Company and are up to their old tricks. Stay away from them! Mike Syme will lie to you and tell you they can do things that they can't. I feel bad for the girls there at Clickincome that have to answer the phones and take the blame and grief for what Mike Syme tells people.

collene   tx

3:58pm on Friday, February 6th, 2009 

just would like to know ,i've been searching some sites and they say click has fired all it's employees, and they are now working under the name of thrive learning institute,I looked this site up and they sound just like click does anyone know if this is true ? is this the same company under a different name?

collene   tx

2:51pm on Friday, February 6th, 2009 

to molly, no they don't let you record wounder why ? who say's we have to follow their rules? they don't stand by anything they promise,enough people have been ripped off by these people we need recordings to prove their empty promises it wouldn't be hard to take a recorder in your purse or pocket,you are allowed by law to record anything that you are a part of so all you have to do is ask a few questions to be part of the conversation.a talk show has responded to my request to be on it and expose these people i will keep you posted. I've got to send more details pray they will do it.

molly   usa

1:54pm on Wednesday, February 4th, 2009 

to Becky in Panama City. Just so you know. They do not belong to the BBB and will not cooperate. It won't hurt to try though and Good Luck. Let us all know if you succeed.

Becky   Panama City, FL

8:52pm on Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009 

I am working to get a refund (HA!) and trying to stop clickincome from debiting my checking account each and every month for nothing. We got into this in Feb. 08 I was in a car accident shortly afterwards and have been trying to STOP them taking more and more of our retirement money each month. My emails are not answered, calls are always placed on hold and now email addresses they previously used to SELL me the stuff are closed. After reading other emails from so many others having similar problems with clickincome I have realized another step in needed. I will contact our BBB now.

molly   usa

12:22pm on Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009 

There should be a category that is worse than dreadful!!
How many seniors have Been ripped off?

re Collene in Texas; I don't think they allow tape recorders at those seminars.

For those who have lost money; keep trying to get it back and for others; DON'T DO IT!!!

Carol Hunt   Indianapolis

11:53am on Saturday, January 31st, 2009 

They do not live up to their promises even after you spend $18,000.00. I have been duly ripped off.

Dan   Indiana

9:20pm on Friday, January 16th, 2009 

It seems that the only thing I can do at this point is to warn others about ClickIncome. The promise of free service in certain areas is only a lie. They have hidden charges, and when I tried to get them to explain it to me, they just ignored my emails.

Please, people, don't get taken by this scam! I'm really just trying to save people from the disappointment I've felt after investing lots of money.

patty   usa

11:53am on Friday, January 16th, 2009 

Collen,tx, and everyone else

Contact your state Consumer Protection Agency. They may be able to help You can also try the federal Attorneys General. They couldn't help me, though.

good luck

collene   tx

10:55pm on Monday, January 12th, 2009 

does anyone know their schedule?i'd love to find out when they will be in texas again. i'd like to go and tape everything they say.i lost alot of money to this scam,and would like to get proof of what they promise just in case a lawyer would take them on, we would have more proof of their lies. that's why they tell you not to tape anything they say.they know they are lying.anyone that attends take a recorder and record it all.

patty   usa

1:35pm on Wednesday, January 7th, 2009 

Mario, Joe, FYI The Utah Consumer Protection Agency can only help if you contracted in Utah. You must go to your own state. So far I have worked with the BBB, Federal an state attorneys general, and my state protection agency. Also, Micah Blauvelt who is nice enough but seems unable to help either.
clickincome just lies and they are accepted.

Mario is correct; unfortunately I believed them and now I (a senior citizen) am out $4,000!!

I wish I could get or give some insight also!!

Mario   Ottawa, Canada

2:37pm on Friday, January 2nd, 2009 

ClickIncome promised tech support one on one training for the premium package. Their material is a joke you can find all the stuff you buy on youtube and google on how to do it and it's free.

They tried a new tactic with their agreement that you cannot cancel. I could sure use some insight on how to deal with this.

I do have people across the globe and I have passed the word to completely boycot this dispicable company.

Joe   Fort Worth

3:56pm on Thursday, January 1st, 2009 

The Utah Division of Consumer Protection is definitely doing something because Clickincome, Auction Success Inc., their CEO Brian McAdam and COO Deric Gurley got served on 30 counts of deceptive business practices recently!
You can search for that at Google or Yahoo. (the form here won't let me paste in the link to the charges.)

And you can always follow up with Utah Consumer Protection at 1-800-721-SAFE like I did if you haven't heard back from them yet. With so many complaints on these guys, the division is probably swamped.

patty   california

12:34pm on Thursday, December 18th, 2008 

The Utah consumer protection agency is mostly unresponsive and unhelpful. I think the agency, BBB,and clickincome are all in bed together!!

Deceived   Fl

10:30pm on Friday, December 12th, 2008 

Scam,Scam,Scam ! Unethical Company. They prey on people new to the net and online businesses. I worked the program and did everything I was told. Awful customer service.Tech support did have a few good people. They Lie,lie,lie. They do nothing they promise. Most of the online businesses you see by Clickincome are employees,or they also have a store front.Their dropshipping program never has anything and if they do it is not in stock. When you are trained each mentor tells you different and you dont know what to do. They can say what ever they like. They are cowards and wont return your calls or help you after they get your money. I can go on and on-just BEWARE and save your money!

Joe   Fort Worth

6:24pm on Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 

Molly wrote:
> I wonder why I have received no response from the agency. I submitted a complaint one month ago.

Maybe they're swamped right now and slow in responding to people. I think they have an 800 number at consumerprotection.utah.gov. Call it and follow up with them.

moolly   usa

2:41pm on Wednesday, December 3rd, 2008 

Joe; I have nothing against the Mormon Church. What I was trying to point out was that if there are a lot of powerful members in the organization they could influence outcomes. If the Utah Consumer Protection folks "threw the book" at them a few weeks ago; I wonder why I have received no response from the agency. I submitted a complaint one month ago. Something is fishy somewhere!!

Joe   Fort Worth

11:46pm on Saturday, November 29th, 2008 

Molly, Clickincome and their sister companies, Auction Success Inc. and Empwronline have nothing to do with the Mormon church. Don't be closed minded disrespecting my Mormon friends.

Speaking of action -- Clickincome and Auction Success had criminal charges served against them a few weeks ago -- 30 counts of deceptive business practices. The Utah Division of Consumer Protection busted them. It was some good Mormons in the division there that threw the book at them.

Do a search for -- Clickincome deception -- to find the articles about it.

Molly   USA

10:44am on Thursday, November 27th, 2008 

Clickincome posted a message on 11/10/08 pointing out that a "handful" of people have complained about Clickincome. A HANDFUL? Who are they kidding? This handful is only the tip of the iceberg.
How many have called or emailed Mich and gotten any action? If Clickincome is so community minded; why don't they act that way? The crap about freedom of speech and our American heritage smacks of the Mormon church. hmmn Wonder if there is some influence in the BBB and government entities.
The trouble with a class action lawsuit is that ir would take years to go thru the courts. By then Clickincome would be long gone along with our money.We could all harass them by phone and email on a daily basis. What say you all out there?

arthur   brighton

2:10pm on Saturday, November 15th, 2008 

Hi, I must have been at the same free seminar as debbie at brighton I feel they deceived people because they did not mention about a trial period of 30 days and after that £10 subscription every month indefinitely when you pay £20 with a signature for the next seminar, not just a talk {actually it is a workshop. They also mentioned with your own website you would have a billboard promoting free websites and for every person that upgrades their website you get £450, so how much do empwroline make? that would make the upgraded website really expensive.They make it sound like you will make more money by getting paid £450 regulary than what you will make with your own business. You can get websites cheaply,it sounds like you and empwroline would be conning people out of more money than they would need to spend for a decent website and to get your website seen on google near the front of a search by someone. When something sounds to good to be true ,it probably is.

CI Support   Sandy, UT

9:12pm on Thursday, November 13th, 2008 

Joseph, I can help you with any question you may have. My name is Micah Blauvelt and I am the Customer Service Manager here at ClickIncome. 800-459-0168 EXT 2119 is my direct phone number. This same offer goes out to anyone with any type of complaint or question. If you prefer you can email me as well at micah@clickincome.com.
Thanks Micah

Billy   London

2:52pm on Tuesday, November 11th, 2008 

YES -- SOONER THAN YOU THINK.
As Published on the Metro on 6th of November 2008
They are coming back!! (And it is one and the same company Clickincome/Empwronline)
The venues are:
10 Nov -- Sofitel Gatwick, RH6 0PH
11 Nov -- Ramada - Brighton, BN1 2PP
18 Nov -- The Woodlands Popular Suite, Swanley, BR8 7BT
19 Nov -- County Hotel, Woodford Green, IG8 9NY
20 Nov -- Hilton - Docklands, SE16 5HW
Times are 10AM, 1PM AND 6.30PM -- Of course they are starting with the 2 hour free seminars. I sincerely hope that people will do a search on them before they go and pay any monies to them. This time of course there is enough on the Internet to warn them.
I am hoping that all the people who have been scammed already will go to one of these venues to confront them. Obviously, considering the reports coming out about their scam, they have to get in there quickly and do as many scams as possible before their true colours show up and everyone in the UK knows.

WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE IF YOU HAVE READ THE METRO TODAY AND WANT TO SIGN UP FOR THIS "FREE" SEMINAR. LET ME WARN YOU -- IT IS A BAIT TO GET YOU IN AND **** YOU IN DEEPER AND DEEPER I.E TAKE THOUSANDS OF POUNDS FROM YOU FOR NOTHING -- THEY ARE SO GOOD. I THOUGHT I WAS SMART BUT WAS SUCKED IN -- PLEASE STAY AWAY -- YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

joseph perks   imperial,MO

8:42am on Tuesday, November 11th, 2008 

I sent them a letter three weeks ago telling them I wanted a refund and have not received an answer. Thr reasons I gave were my health, my age, and time restrictions.

CI Support   Sandy, UT

8:48am on Monday, November 10th, 2008 

Recently there have been a handful of individuals that have been dissatisfied with our services. We do want to state, as always, Clickincome is dedicated to providing excellent customer service and continues to work towards improving its services and systems. We acknowledge that we are not a perfect company and have had some growing pains over the last 8 years. We like many companies have experienced periods of amazing growth and admittedly we weren’t always prepared for the increase in customer service demands. For that we can only apologize and strive to do better in the future.

We remain committed to our clients and reasonably resolving all issues. Clickincome prides itself on it continual growth and a focus on providing the best possible tools and educational experience for your online business investment. As of November 2, 2008, we have begun to migrate our current customers over to a new website building system. To that end we want to make you aware that a total migration with the number of clients we service will take time. The process can take anywhere from an hour to a day depending on the size of the site.

One can expect any company in business this long servicing the public to have complaints in forums like the BBB. At Clickincome we work very hard to come to a mutually satisfactory resolution on all issues that are brought before us. We will deal with each complaint on a case-by-case basis and consistently endeavor to provide an amicable resolution.

A very common misconception is that those who purchase our programs are purchasing a strictly a website. This is only a small portion of what they have purchased. What they have actually bought into is an online business venture. Some of these packages do contain various online business tools like merchant accounts, custom site designs, internet business mentoring, online auction education classes, search engine optimization services and much more. So the misconception that all they purchased was a websites is not an accurate statement.
We urge you to contact Micah at Clickincome directly at 1-800-459-0168 Ext 2119 to have any issues addressed as quickly as possible. You can also reach customer service at 1-800-576-9411 or you can email customer service at support@clickincome.com. We highly encourage anyone to immediately contact us with their issues to identify and address your concerns quickly. We are here to help you Monday – Friday from 9:00 AM until 6:00 PM Mountain Time.

We would like to also address that there is currently a common misconception that has been put out there by a former disgruntled employee Clickincome is affiliated with the company EmPwrOnline. While both companies do both offer similar services and operate out of Utah, they are actually different companies.

America enjoys freedom of speech and we here at Clickincome honor our American heritage and welcome any and all comments and feedback. Remember that anyone including our competitors and former disgruntled employees can post negative blogs. Many negative blogs and forums are meant to drive traffic to their own site and are posted by individuals who have never been involved with the Clickincome program in any way. Websites that boast negative reviews of products or services are generally trying to sell you something they produced or relabeled. This is a common occurrence in any rapidly growing industry like web site hosting.

Clickincome and is enjoying over 8 years in business and has thousands of successful clients and students and we look forward to continue serving our customers for years to come.

Respectfully - Clickincome

petty   tx

12:51pm on Thursday, November 6th, 2008 

maybe njw,from milwaukee could help us all (since he has two master degrees,)in getting a class action against these scum. i'm just a poor person who knows very little about computers that beleived these people and trusted they could make my life better as they promised,i wasn't expecting to get rich just make a living. instead i got into alot of credid card debt.i never could even get a web site built,that they want to charge me for ever month.any lawyers want to take my case?if so contact me at pettych@verizon.net, i've also emailed the dr phil show begging him to do a show on these people,maybe if everyone else would email him your story maybe he would concider it.go to dr phil . com and tell him your story and ask him to expose this company.

patricia   oregon

12:00pm on Tuesday, November 4th, 2008 

I urge everyone who has been (scammed as I have been) to submit comp[laints to the Utah Better Business Bureau, Utah Division of Consumer Protection, the FBI and any other agency you can think of Maybe if they are inundated something good will happen. I've read 71 negative reviews on line which tells me this is just the tip of the iceberg. You can request a "Reliability Report" on Clickincome from the Utah BBB. Very interesting.