Liberty League International

Andrew,  Australia

  Posted at 1:04am on Friday, July 3rd, 2009

RE: Badly Burned

It is good to hear from another Aussie in a similar situation. I want to contact others going through a similar situation.

Badly Burned,  Queensland - Australia

  Posted at 7:10am on Wednesday, July 1st, 2009

I agree with so much of what has been said on here and I will keep it short because so much of what I have to say has already been said.

All Liberty League International caused me was heartache and pain. Like people have said, if you don't make tons of money they make YOU out to be the problem not the business. So many people who join LLI are so successful in their lives in so many ways and then they're made to feel like utter failures and that within itself should be criminal

Anyway, I will summarize what I have to say:

1. I warn anyone considering LLI in Australia to seriously, seriously think about it. I wish I had and I wish I did more research and actually looked it up on the net.

2. Second of all, as said above, Tony Robbins is the absolute master of personal development. I got a free ticket to his last Unleash the Power Within event in Australia and I can't even describe how awesome it was. His materials are a fraction of the cost of LLI products and the value is in... read more »

Andrew,  Australia

  Posted at 1:47am on Saturday, June 27th, 2009

I have been involved with Liberty League International here in AUSTRALIA for about 12 months. I have not made any money only achieving 1 training sale. I have decided to cut my losses and are no longer active in the company. I am not trying to sell anything here, I just want to give an honest opinion and share my experience with others who may be considering one of these top tier business opportunities (LifePath included).
Coming from a corporate background as a team leader I felt that I had what it takes to be successful when I was "interviewed". I saw the income disclosure on the website and believed that I could be in the top 3-8 per cent. I have taken the business very seriously from the start, have gone "full boat" invested in all 3 products costing USD$22,485 (over AUD$25,000) and attended the Liberty conference in Mexico. I have spent over $25,000 on marketing. I have followed the "6 steps to success" everyday, including the training calls. The calls are all about mindset but ... read more »

Heidi,  Location unknown

  Posted at 7:14pm on Thursday, June 25th, 2009

Hello

I have been using the Beyond Freedom product and I cannot praise it more highly, the barriers in my belief systems have been taken down, one after another after another. I have less "baggage" and am clearer and more set in my purpose. For this the Beyond Freedom has been a gift that has set me free is so many areas, and for which I would pay for many times over.

Do your due diligence and make a decision based on your fact, information and instincts.

Yes I saw the "scam" material posted on the internet, and felt truly forewarned. But came across an investor I know who joined and made $50K in four months. Yes the business works and yes people make great money, and yes there are those who havent got what it takes to make it great and quit and post their regrets.

Life is what you make it, and you get exactly what you focus on and EXPECT.

Cheers

Julie,  AZ

  Posted at 10:54am on Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009

My husband and I were with Liberty League international from 2004-2006. We made a grand total of $1000! We made our training sales and just one after that. We were not lazy about doing this biz. We treated LL like it was our religion. We did everything under the sun to market this. We spent close to 30k on this scam! The income disclouser says it all. I'm sure there's always going to be people who fall for this.

JOHN MURTAGH,  DALLAS

  Posted at 12:19pm on Thursday, June 18th, 2009

THEY SUCK ITS A SCAM

Terry,  OH

  Posted at 11:05am on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009

I was with LLI for a little over 2 yrs. I don't understand how people are saying this is a scam. I earned a couple hundred thousand dollars (net) while I was partnered with that company. With any business there are people that will succeed and people who will fail. Most people lack the skills necessary for success in any business, much less an ultra-competitive industry like internet marketing. The ones who succeed are the ones that are willing to sacrifice and buckle down and learn what it takes to succeed. When you start with a network marketing company, YOU and your success are independent of the company. They really don't care whether or not you succeed, so you need to take that into consideration. You are the company, you are the variable, and you alone are accountable. Ample information exists outside your company's training network for you to educate yourself on what it REALLY takes to succeed...Do yourself a favor and learn those skills before you get started in an opp... read more »

Sue Ray,  Milwaukee , WI

  Posted at 3:16pm on Thursday, June 11th, 2009

I have known two people who were scammed into joining Liberty League International. They both jumped in for the full ball of wax - product plus seminars. Both previously were successful executives and one a successful real estate investor.

One left the business after only a few months, realizing that all she had done was lost money. She also felt guilty trying to sell a product that she didn't believe in because she was expected to tell people about her prosperity, when in fact, she was flat broke. She had to file bankruptcy.

The other has spent $30,000 ( or more). He has spent tons of money with little results. He is now facing foreclosure on his investment properties, has had two cars repossessed and may be facing foreclosure on his home.

At what point is enough , enough? How much do these believers need to lose before reality kicks in? DON'T DRINK THE COOL-AID, PEOPLE! Don't give these snake oil salesmen any of your hard earned money!

Keith Ivey,  Georgia

  Posted at 8:00pm on Tuesday, June 9th, 2009

Just got off the call. First, those of you who think this is a pyramid are uniformed re: what a pyramid is. This is not a pyramid. This is a business with expensive and, probably excellent.

The point is this company gives you the opportunity to start a business for less than $2000. I can't do it because I don't have the money but I see the value in their offering.

Business Investigator,  Location unknown

  Posted at 3:44am on Wednesday, June 3rd, 2009

If you would like to know what Liberty League sells, check out their(your potential) sales page.

Sara,  San Francisco

  Posted at 3:55pm on Friday, May 29th, 2009

I was so excited when I found a site that I thought was part of the Secret and Mike Dooley. I gave my information and a women called me to explain the program. She had been a life coach and spoke highly of Dooley's work. She said they were looking for people who were happy & wanted to make at least 6 figures while helping others. You can not imagine my heart ache when I heard that stupid presentation. The man who talked only about the money (nothing about helping others) that can be made has pled guilty for tax fraud in regards to another company he owned very much like this one. Liberty has had their own legal problems. Wonder what happened to people's money when Mike's company went under?(Mike is the guy who blathers on & on when you call in) I say don't invest your money into a company that has had legal problems or hides behind other great names. I informed the woman who's website I responded to--NO! She said they were not interested in people who were not in tune with their vibrat... read more »

Michael,  Chandler, Az

  Posted at 8:57pm on Thursday, May 28th, 2009

I've just finished listening to the presentation. I couldn't see myself shelling out $1500 in addition to other fees with this company. I wanted a job or earning opportunity like a home business not a spending opportunity. If I wanted a life changes opportunity I will go and buy a big screen T.V. at WALMART> So NO Thank You

Phil,  NB Canada

  Posted at 7:28am on Wednesday, May 20th, 2009

It does go to show that not everyone is cut out for this type of venture. They'd all rather stay with the herd and pretend they have security in a job. Employers have been taking advantage of people for centuries by paying them minimal wages for huge chunks of their working lives only to be just as poor when they retire as when they started in the work force. Who got rich there??? Oh yeah the shareholders or business owners.
I am proud to be a part of LLI and have found huge changes in my life as a result of it, not only financially but as a human being. This is a highly ethical company with good practices. If this is the way you judge things then do a google search on Microsoft, Walmart, and even Mother Teresa and you're guaranteed to find bad reviews about them all. Think for yourself! This is a business opportunity no one is forcing anyone to do anything they don't want.

Chris,  Australia

  Posted at 4:03am on Thursday, May 14th, 2009

I have just listened to the conference call and as a few other point of views state there is a lot of talk but not much information on what they are selling.
My wife is currently stuck on the phone explaining our financial situation and that we can't afford that sort of money at the moment. But the individual on the other end is pushing with ideas like borrow money of family or a friends as it pay off.
I am glad that I am a cautious person and still remember the pyramid scams from the 80's.
No thanks LLG I would rather be poor.

Disappointed Dave,  Arizona

  Posted at 9:05pm on Tuesday, May 12th, 2009

Hard to believe LLI have been persuading people for 7 years to hop on the "pyramid scam wagon" of scalping the next guy in line, who becomes your fellow employees, and then the competition once they join. They ask you to sell 3 overpriced products that they essentially tell you nothing about, other than a few lines of dung about a delivery to your door of a personal development DVD, and some way over priced seminars in exotic places! I am glad I found this blog so I could add my thoughts. Run far away I would say. If it walks, and looks, and smells like a duck, it's a duck! In this global economic mess, they prey on desperate unemployed people looking for easy street. Don't be a sucker what can I say. It is obvious they do a steak with sizzle; fast paced sales pitch on the conference calls, and have their top scammers chime in with their predatory success stories. I wasted my time listening to essentially a pyramid scheme. STAY AWAY - sure there are probably a few people making doe at... read more »

Rachel,  Australia

  Posted at 7:40am on Monday, May 11th, 2009

I've just finished listening to the 'presentation' - I am now completely bemused why anyone would wish to become involved in a company that tries to make money out of its employees in turn to make money out of its employees. Now, I'm aware they market us potential suckers as 'Business Owners', but the reality is that we would be nothing but the underling paying our cash to the next level of 'employees' to make their money.
I went in with an open mind and was hopeful that I may have stumbled on a real opportunity, I'm more than happy to spend some time on the net placing adds and marketing a solid product to customers who would benefit from what I have to offer - but alas, what I discovered from the presentation call was that I, in actual fact, 'was' the 'customer' and was trying to be sold a product I did not want or need - or even ask for. I wanted a 'job' or 'earning opportunity' - not a 'spending opportunity' -- I can go to Big W for that, thank you very much!!!!!
And I do not... read more »

nick,  sactown, CA

  Posted at 3:03am on Sunday, May 10th, 2009

the 3 stars i put are just to get your attention.

notice how many people defending LLI with five stars, neglected to put that they sell the stuff. why else would someone get on this website, and defend a $1400 dollar product...

think, think wrongly if you must, but by all means, think for yourself.

Paul,  Australia

  Posted at 7:26pm on Thursday, May 7th, 2009

Look, LLI is offering an opportunity, nothing more nothing less and of course "due diligence" should be done with any business. If you're going to buy a business, find out about the pitfalls and act accordingly. All businesses have risk associated with them: look at the current market where "traditional businesses" are closing at a record rate and so-called "job security" has gone out the door. Liberty League offers a personal development program and compensation plan with a 6 step business model to be successful. The reality is you do have to work the business and have some money behind you to set it up. Some people will be very successful and others won't: the difference is it is TOTALLY up to YOU. This is a legitimate network marketing business that uses leverage as a tool and has been looked into by the US Government, Dunn & Bradshaw and many over agencies so if it was a scam or unethical it would be listed as such. All I have to say is BE INFORMED regardless, you never know when y... read more »

Maria,  Cambridge, UK

  Posted at 9:53am on Wednesday, May 6th, 2009

Aaaah .... another one of those "fake-it-till-you-make-it" cults. For how long can so many suckers first empty their bank accounts on these expensive "systems", dress up, put their best photographs and their "story" on their own sales page, pretend to "live-it-up", grin & smile through it all until it all falls through once again??? Sound familiar? Anyone out there done Herbal Life? Got the message now? STAY AWAY GUYS. KEEP YOUR MONEY TIGHT - WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT IS MORE THAN YOU WILL HAVE WITHOUT GIVING IT AWAY TO THIS BUNCH. Ask yourself this question: How do I pretend to be this happy when I know I'm being had by the same people who are bull *****ing me into duplicating what they are doing?

Eva,  New Zealand

  Posted at 6:41am on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009

LLI is just a company wih a shell, but with nothing inside. LLI is selling people basic emotion as a product?? If everyone watch the DVD, and then be success for a whole life, there will be no poor people in the world, I am so disappointed that LLI sell this as a product , this is only the cover of the company , make you feel good when you sell people produce, you will be one of the LLI customer first before you making any money, because someone already make money out of your pocket, money have to come from somewhere, not just come from nowhere.Please excuse my spelling mistakes.

zhorda,  Grenada

  Posted at 11:45am on Saturday, May 2nd, 2009

I listened to the 30 minute presentation and there is no details about the products we need to sell. Glad I found this website. No good for anyone on a very low budget, these are the people I would like to help, like myself

Anonymous,  Location unknown

  Posted at 2:01pm on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009

I just got off the call and i still didn't get how they do it.
Well all i know is from you all
I will not be fooled by this kind of scam
It really shows how stupid it is and how difficult is to try to explain as they did on the conference call.
BE AWARE

Jim,  US

  Posted at 1:39pm on Sunday, April 26th, 2009

I have to rate this program as Dreadful due to the Dreadful 5 Stars that are given by the scam artists of Liberty League or LL as they call it.

If you notice, all 5 stars, and I mean every one of them sound like a pre-written testimonial.

Anyone that falls for something like this, deserves to have their credit cards and more wiped clean.

Matt,  Sydney

  Posted at 2:17am on Thursday, April 9th, 2009

I just finished the 30 minute call, the business model itself sounds ethical, the products however seem way over priced. Never heard of the two guys running the company. I'd rather use Robbins any day.

Anonymous,  Location unknown

Posted at 7:43pm on Tuesday, April 7th, 2009

You can google Walmart and you better stop shopping there too, if you believe everything you read on the INTERNET. If you are the type to believe what you read without getting the REAL information then you aren't worthy of going into ANY business period.

Angeline,  SC

  Posted at 5:30pm on Friday, April 3rd, 2009

Thank you for everyone out there posting comments. From reading the reviews above I will not participate in the program.

Mary,  Melbourne

  Posted at 4:37am on Monday, March 30th, 2009

I have just completed the call, and I think it is everyone’s individual opinions placed here and there needs to be someone with a marketing background and the qualifications to comment instead of the 'anybody' out there. I'm not reading too much into any of these blogs because they could easily be placed by competitors of LLI... anyway I think options should be left for the experts

Eric,  Newark

  Posted at 7:34pm on Friday, March 27th, 2009

I just sat through a conference after responding to an ad for a "Director of Sales" position at RSI... The rep called and complimented my resume, told me how fantastic I was, and gave me the blah blah about "wouldn't you like to work 3-4 hours a day and make 6 figures a year??????"..

Here's my response to her after listening to the conference:

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So, let me get this straight.....

I pay $50, and then I have the right to sell a $500 "product" for $1500 and pocket $1000. After doing that, 1 of every 3 people is gullible enough to then buy a $2500 product for $7500 - so I can pocket another $5K...

a) Why would ANYONE pay $7500 for a conference like this? b) Why would anyone pay $7500 knowing that $5000 is going to the "rep" for no work whatsoever
c) Even if the conference was worth $2500, why wouldn't the customer just pay $50 to join and then go to the conference for $2500...

I'm not sure who I feel sorrier for -- you for having to sell this, or the people that a... read more »

Sue,  Melbourne

  Posted at 4:51am on Wednesday, March 18th, 2009

Very diappointed to hear that you all don't believe in product. I've been doing it for 12 weeks and have been very successful.

Just goes to show that you all need to do the motivational 90 day course, to change the NEGATIVITIES into POSTIVES and once you've mastered that you'll be suprised how successful you can become.

John,  South East England

  Posted at 3:50pm on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009

I went on the liberty league presentation and it makes sense to me, but then I am a business man. The marketing will be simple and the products strike me as good value, I have experienced lots of personal development products and seminars and the good ones are worth 10 times their price. I have carried out some extensive investigations and on the basis of my findings I will definitely join, and I know I will be successful, but then I use personal development so I guess I will always succeed.

Mariam G.,  Charlotte, NC

Posted at 9:39am on Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009

Dlainne
Thank you for the information. I was very helpful.

corey,  gold coast

  Posted at 10:44pm on Tuesday, February 24th, 2009

Beware unless you are an absolute sales gun,with money to burn and take a gamble on, it might work...

Felicity,  Australia

  Posted at 4:12am on Monday, February 23rd, 2009

Just got off the phone from the 30 minute conference, what a load of shit! I still have no idea what they are selling or your expected to sell if you join. then I stumbled across this site, my husband had told me to google 'liberty league' before the call,after reading all these comments posted it just makes me so angry that unethical businesses like this are allowed to continue, remember the old saying "if it sounds too good to be true,.... you know the end. DONT GO THERE!

Mark,  Melb Australia

  Posted at 4:04am on Tuesday, February 17th, 2009

Well I have just listened to the 30 min scripted presentation. It was clear after less than 2 min that it is a pyramid selling scheme. With a product to legalize the setup. While I may look into it further I was concerned at the lack of attention to the actual product they were selling. This has to be a dead give away that it is not the best in the market. If you are going to offer a product to the market talk about the product not the margin on selling it, if the product is good the margin will come.

Michael,  Scotland

  Posted at 6:17am on Wednesday, February 4th, 2009

Having read the above comments I shall not be connecting to the presentation call scheduled for to-night...........

Lynn,  Denver

  Posted at 1:04pm on Monday, February 2nd, 2009

I just got off the call...glad I ran across this review. It clearly is "too good to be true." Thanks for these postings.

Hughsie,  Ireland

Posted at 3:56am on Thursday, January 29th, 2009

Well, here it is - I know a couple of people involved in Liberty League - I KNOW they have seven properties each, drive a Jag - have been able to stay at home to raise children. I knew them before they joined. What I will say about LL, it definitely improves self-belief, self-confidence and raises your expectations on seeing goals without barriers. -

I am NOT selling it, just saying it does have a positive side too. For me, its a sales job. Selling a dream. If you are not living your dream life, you ARE open to be sold the dream. If you are looking for a car - you are open to be sold a car. To me, its no different to Tony Quinns Health products or Scientology. People in LL making you feel bad if you don't succeed? - Wake up please - that's what most of society & religion do everyday of your natural life. YOU are the captain of your life - get on with it.

Dave,  Montreal

  Posted at 11:56am on Wednesday, January 28th, 2009

I just got off the phone with someone that set me up to listen to the half hr. presentation, then fell onto this site and am glad I did so as not to waste any more time on this venture. I should have known it was too good to be true, Thanks

Greg,  WA

  Posted at 10:39pm on Tuesday, January 27th, 2009

I want to start out by saying thank you! to all the non-believers in this hoax. I just got off the 30 minute conference call and decided to do a little more research on this shady company. Turns out my suspicions were right. I Will now probably have one of the higher associates calling me any second to "help me" find financial freedom. I'm staying away and so should you.

Steve,  North England

  Posted at 7:48pm on Tuesday, January 27th, 2009

I was contacted by LLI via monster-jobs who have several liberty league accounts, having seen the mass of blogs on the internet, I decided not to dial the recorded phone pitch but instead rang monster up and informed them of their moral obligation not to allow LLI to advertise through them, they said they would flag it for investigation. If you are aware of any to good to be true job offers please contact the advertiser source and complain so we may read adverts more trustingly, happy job hunting.

George Jakubans,  Methven New Zealand

Posted at 8:40pm on Thursday, January 22nd, 2009

Lets make some money!

David,  California

  Posted at 6:09pm on Thursday, January 15th, 2009

A friend of mine got involved with this company over a year ago. Honestly, the opportunity sounded to good to be true. She wanted me to get involved, but I wished her luck...and continued to work my JOB. Over the course of the year, she tried to work this business to no avail. Over the holiday's she was evicted from her apartment, had sold everything she owned. How sad is it that people get taken advantage of because they did not do a simple search on the internet to find blogs such as this...sad.

Nene,  Los Angeles

  Posted at 10:51pm on Tuesday, January 6th, 2009

I am just laughing my butt off reading all the comments. Thank you to all who were honest about their experiences. It definetly changed my decision in joining LLI.

Mel,  Sydney, Australia

  Posted at 3:30pm on Sunday, November 30th, 2008

I cannot believe I just read the comment above mine -

"I also can't understand why so many people base their decisions on a 30 minute presentation."

Maybe innocent people do this as this is what Liberty League Associates heavily market!
Place an advertisment, ring the person who answered the ad and direct them to the 30 minute Business Presentation Call. A LLI associate is now informing us that everybody should be exercising extreme diligence and not to rely on a 30 minute presentation to help you make your decision!

Why market the 30 minute call then? Why not provide a list of associates (both the money makers and the not so successful)for unsuspecting victims to ring? More importantly what's so wrong with being an Average Joe? Hell if it's' honest why not!

As I was being tricked into signing up with LLI I was only in contact with the person I was a training sale for and my so called advisor who took $1000 profit from me. I did not know anything about any community apar... read more »

H. THOMPSON,  South Carolina

  Posted at 3:40pm on Friday, November 28th, 2008

What they fail to tell you is the amount of money you will have to invest in this business. I do believe this should be call false advertising. Please ask the hard questions if you are thinking of joining Liberty League.
The travel cost alone can cost 1000's each year. Not to mention the Lead you will have to buy. And the Lead companys sale the same lead over and over again. BEWARE OF LLI

MARY-CLARE McCABE,  SCOTLAND UK

  Posted at 6:06pm on Wednesday, November 26th, 2008

I'm sorry - I don't understand the Q. PROGRAM RATING. I have just been introduced to LLI and am now having 2nd thoughts.

Barbara,  San Diego, California

  Posted at 3:09pm on Wednesday, November 26th, 2008

IT is amazing to me that so many people spent so little time checking Liberty League out through reliable sources if any. Liberty League is a legitimate way to make money and it's not for everyone. Not everyone is ready to move from employee to entrepreneur. People would think nothing of plopping down $250,000.00 for a franchise business which buys them a job and headache. Yes, after 3 years they may make a profit if they last. Look at legitimate statistics on Network Marketing businesses. Look at what Donald Trump and Robert Kiosaki say about Network Marketing in their recent book. Contact the Federal Trade Commission. Dunn and Bradstreet rate Liberty League with 3 stars. I personally base my decisions on reliable sources not average joe's uneducated blogging. I also can't understand why so many people base their decisions on a 30 minute presentation. Why not interview many people in Liberty League, spend a couple of hours on the website..etc. There is information about what... read more »

Mel,  Sydney Australia

  Posted at 6:20am on Tuesday, November 4th, 2008

Run, jump, hide do anything and I mean ANYTHING just stay away from Liberty League associates. For some strange reason there is currently a very strong focus here in Australia.

I too was told by a very confident Liberty League associate who happened to be on Rachel Oliver's team that I would be making thousands in just weeks. It did not happen. I did everything I was supposed to yet I got no results and definately got no help or assistance what so ever from the scammer that signed me up. They didn't want to know me.

A handfuld of Aussies have been sucked in and now they are ripping off the inocent.

I've learnt my lesson the hard way and an expensive one at that!

STAY AWAY FROM THIS SO CALLED OPPORTUNITY.

Steve,  NY

  Posted at 6:02am on Sunday, November 2nd, 2008

Hi, I am not a member of Liberty International, I I will never be, but I was just searching to see if I was off base on what I thought.
Here is where my mind is...
I got a call from a lady who said her and here husband were making a "tremendous income" from doing something this simple. I was skeptical, but agreed to look at the site that she emailed me. I looked, and my jaw hit the ground at their outlandish prices. Selling is not hard for me, I run two businesses already and make sales all the time, but $1500 for a home study course? I sent her a message back saying that the prices are too outlandish, and I would feel like a criminal. I have been to 3 day conferences for cheaper than one third of the cost of Liberty International products. I have walked away with so much in one of those, that I filled up a notebook with marketing ideas, and used them to skyrocket my martial arts school to double what is was making inside 90 days.
Also, looking at this business model, who is... read more »

Xiomara,  Los Angeles, CA

  Posted at 12:36am on Friday, October 31st, 2008

I got totally scammed! I answered an ad on Craigslist and I was interviewed by Emil Torabi for a sales position who told me very confidentaly that his associates sold at least 14 units a month and that it was very possible to make up to 14K a month! He envited me to listen to a presentation that night and that same night I got a call from the Mr. Torabi who then conferenced his "advisor" Lisa Molina automatically knew what I was going through and was very persistant that I could change my life and make serious money for the better saying she herself was working 3 jobs before she got started with Liberty League International and when she made the decision to join LLC, she made 6 thousand in her first week!

I believed everythng hook line and sinker. The hook I felt for was being able to spend more time with my family. Everyone told me I was going to get scammed but I didn't believe it. I would go online and read the blogs about this company and thought, I will give it an honest to goo... read more »

Gregory L. Davis,  Biloxi, MS

  Posted at 11:38pm on Tuesday, October 28th, 2008

I couldn't see myself shelling out $1500 in addition to other fees with this company, because I felt like I was being pressured to get involved in this business. I remembered talking to a few people that contacted me about an opportunity with LLI and these people didn't provide any significant information as to what I would be doing with this company, which made me skeptical; my main reason for not pursuing this opportunity. Either you are ready to join, or have a nice day was the attitude that I received. I am suggesting that LLI is a scam for two reasons; the pressure tactics that were used in an attempt to get me to join and as I said earlier,the either join now or have a nice day attitude; a big turn off for me. This was far too much money for me to shell out without knowing what it was that I would be actually doing. After seeing numerous complaints about this opportunity on other websites, I felt like I made the right decision in avoiding this venture. Be encouraged.

Mary,  California

  Posted at 12:14am on Tuesday, October 7th, 2008

I think the one thing that is not being mentioned here is that the prices are high on the products for a reason. Most of the money on these products goes back to the members, NOT the company. It's a way to be in profit fairly quickly without taking years to build a huge downline, and it is a huge motivator.
I feel that the presentations are a bit rushed and hyped, but I've had a chance to talk to some of the top earners and they seem honest, helpful and down-to- earth. Bottom line is, that you have to trust your instincts and do what is right for you.

David Fischer,  Villa Hills,Kentucky

  Posted at 4:23pm on Sunday, September 28th, 2008

Liberty League International is not a scam,it is just terribly difficult to succeed.I spent the $1,495.00 on Beyond freedom.It was fine ,good advice,and a little interesting.I spent 6 weeks,at it,spent about $4,000.00 on newspaper advertising,and never sold my 1st one.I consider myself excellent,on the phone and persuasive.You don't sell it ,you run into the Ace or lay down sale.
I would say the success rate of sale to people you get on the phone,inquiring about the product ,is less than 1%.I guess.0035.The way to be successful at it,is to have many people under you,be at the top of the list,on a Liberty League search[domain],and spend the $22,500.00 , from day 1.Good luck to Brent,Shane,and Tony.


David Fischer
Villa Hills,Kentucky.

James,  Darwin Australia

  Posted at 1:18pm on Friday, September 12th, 2008

This is an unethical, dishonest, heartless scam. Thankfully I only lost a few hundred dollars, some have lost 1000's and tens of 1000's. I have been in personal development for 20 years and this company has nothing new or even comparable to the masters such as Anthony Robbins.

There are past and current lawsuits and a criminal past for the owners from past illegal businesses. There are undisclosed relationships and business arrangements within the company with every part of the business designed as an additional profit stream:

e.g. Extreme leads is offered as a recommended company for business leads-they fail to mention they actually own it.

The cost to change a date on a seminar is 10% cost of ticket. i.e. $1300 for the $13000 seminar. This is just to make an administration change! If you can't make the conference you don't get ANY money back!

When you pay for the conferencing system (antiquated as it is) you must pay 3 months in advance. In the fine print you must ... read more »

Deborah,  Australia

  Posted at 10:15pm on Wednesday, September 10th, 2008

As an ex member of Liberty League International my advice to those reading this would be to EXERCISE EXTREME CAUTION when making your decision about Liberty League International.

Yes there are the select few that are making huge amounts of money but they are doing so in an unethical and deceitful way.

Not all the information you need to make a well informed decision regarding costs is revealed on the Business Presentation Calls. Take my word you will be paying a hell of a lot more than what you are told on these calls.

It's not just a "simple 3 step system" you follow as stated in the calls. It is so much more involved cost wise.

I have made a number of contributions regarding my experience with Liberty League International on especially the astrononical costs of keeping my business afloat for 6 EXPENSIVE months.

Once again be very careful and do your research before diving into your pocket.

All the best.

Tim Battle,  Chicago

  Posted at 1:09pm on Thursday, September 4th, 2008

I am trying very hard to understand how to make money out here with out having to suffer a 9 to 5 and get no where. The LLI business model offers an advantage for
people that have 25k to invest or more, but there are many opportunities out there to make money with out breaking the bank. If anyone asked for a unreasonable amount of money upfront with no guarantee of money back or proven system or even customer base, I say STAY AWAY. Customers what value in what they purchase and great customer service. If a company is constantly pitching a business opportunity, but doesn't give you information on product or service and cost then they have something to hide. Don't invest until you have the information you need to make a smart, informed, consumer and business owner centered decision.

Philip,  NC

  Posted at 10:53pm on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008

I think there is a grain of truth in what everyone is saying. I will say that I learned a lot in LLI and from its products which I still use today although I am not in that company. In fact I will give the credit of my success as a sales professional to what I learned in LLI.

Here is the facts. LLI does require talent. One must be a sales person and even more a strong closer. But it is very possible to succeed in that business and if you do the payoff is sweet.

More importantly, the company has been around for a while, over 7 years, and is pretty stable. What they really sell there is a way of living, more than any one product.

I was a summit advisor with LLI, I did spend and make alot of money. I am not with them now but the experience I think was priceless.

In closing, if you see yourself as a talented, leader, successful, and confident, you are ready to make things happen for yourself, LLI is for you.

If you are a care giver, logical thinker, unsure of yourself, ... read more »

Eric,  Minnesota

  Posted at 10:53pm on Saturday, August 30th, 2008

I lost over 10k working the LLI business for about 6 months. I managed to get qualified and sell a couple of beyond freedom programs. I still think their products are overpriced and I wasn't given all the details about this opportunity before I joined.
I wish I had done my homework, but I was desperate for a change at that point in time. Calling hundreds of people and lying isn't a way to make a living.
The owners in arizona are on top of the pyramid,so to speak, and for the price they charge for the two conferences, they don't need everyone in the country to do this, just a few. I could of gone to mexico on vacation for $1500 on my own and saved $6500, very greedy people, shane and brett.

scott kellett,  indiana

  Posted at 11:47am on Sunday, August 17th, 2008

any business out there has a few bad reports that is just business. but the reallity is those people just gave up or flat out wanted something for nothing. get real people any business cost money and calls for advertising. no exceptions. the beyond freedom is real. It does show you how to put your thoughts in motion and how to lay out a blue print for success. A priceless product. But this is not for everybody. Just like constructions isn't. so chose wisely your cource for success

Dallas,  West Bend,IA

  Posted at 1:12pm on Wednesday, August 6th, 2008

I will first admit, I was drawn by the opportunity to make really easy money without a lot of work....I worked the system for a while...but couldnt sleep at night. I walked away from my first few sales without taking a dollar from anybody...because I figured out that it is a ruse. It takes a terrible product that teaches you no earth shattering concepts...and couples it with a dishonest concept of MLM...They say it isnt MLM, but in the training they tech how to articulate this system to get arond the loop hole............Here is why I think that this business model is wrong for our society, 1. It provides no (honestly) positive benefit to our country 2. Money isnt achieved by hard work (its achieved by scalping the next guy in line) 3. The business materials, people & business model are knowingly evasive & deceptive in the marketing of the "Product" I didnt find the Beyond Freedom....What I found was beyond slavery.....to the tune of 15k.

Shelley Jones,  WA

  Posted at 12:14am on Thursday, July 31st, 2008

Liberty League International has truly been a gift for me. As a working mom I wanted nothing more than being home with my kids. Liberty League has given me that opportunity! Owning your own buisness definately requires some work, but nothing worth having dosn't. LLI has put together a home based business with the sales of one of the hottest trends out their personal development. If you enjoy helping others change their life this is an awesome buisness.

Jenny,  Milwaukee

  Posted at 1:15pm on Tuesday, June 17th, 2008

I feel totally scammed. This guy had me so revved up to succeed and I totally fell for it all. 22k later I regret not checking this out sooner. If there is a lawsuit, i'll participate. Don't join AT ALL!

Mal Mac Rae,  Sydney - Australia

  Posted at 7:15am on Monday, June 2nd, 2008

I just listened to a Liberty league group presentation. It was full of people talking about their success stories and how easy it all was. I picked it within 30 seconds as being a pyramid selling structure with a vague product to circumvent legislation against such things.

I was reminded of a guy I knew about 25 years ago who was an AMWAY network marketer who had a 7 year plan to become financially independent. he said he was at the one year point of his plan but it had taken longer than one year to achieve this position .......... in fact it had taken 7 years. A bit of Dilbert mathematics tells me he will spend the better part of 50 years worth of work to go diamond in that system.

I am as always skeptical about the growth potential for any marketing system that doesn't really sell a product but moreover sells the right to sell an intangible right to sell. Soon enough there will be a glut of people trying to sell to everyone else while the smart operators have jumped ship y... read more »