National Grants Conferences Reviews

Sale   Augusta, GA

8:20pm on Sunday, November 1st, 2009 

I am a skeptic about spending money for GRANTS... A grants' definition is to agree to fulfill. Fulfill: their pockets with my money. Since I live in Atlanta, think we can make this a "whistle blower" for the local news...

Rose   Location unknown

1:40am on Sunday, November 1st, 2009

Save your money and buy a good book instead.

Jason S.   Boston

2:03pm on Sunday, October 4th, 2009 

Attended initial conference yesterday with friend. I was going to go again with wife today, impressed with slick salesman pitch. I did a google on NGC before leaving today and found this website and thankful I did.

The pitch man did raise some interesting points and it was entertaining, but toward the break it morphed into an infomercial. Especially when several jumped up and went to the back to plunk down $999 and minutes later 14 "Lucky" participants or future "student-clients" were offered coupons of $200 off. I'm glad all I lost was a little gas. A big thanks to t
those who took the time and energy to write their cautionary posts!

Lady E   Oakland, Ca

2:46pm on Thursday, September 24th, 2009 

My husband and I were suppose to attend the NGC at the Hilton in Oakland Ca on August 30th, 2009. We didn't go out of pure laziness but it's something I been wanting to do for a while now. When they send me free tickets, I always sign up to attend but never end up going. My gut feeling told me to google NGC and I came across this site. Thank God for sites like this because after reading the comments placed here, there's no way in hell my husband and I will attend one of there conferences. They can take me off there mailing list or whatever they use to contact people because I'm done with it. Plus, I don't have any money to throw away with the way the economy is today. If they are to help people get funds/grants why are they charging so much for the service? I understand nothing is free but people don't have money to waste. Even people with the big buck wanna budget and spend right. NGC should know people are there to find ways to get money without having to spend too much money, if any at all. So all I can say is thanks to all for your comments, I'm sorry for those who have actually spent money with these fools and really hope you all can get your money back or something because nobody should have to take a loss like that. Lets look at it this way and we all know this. If it's to good true good to be true, then it probably is and it's best to do your research before going forward or simple turn away from it. Please don't allow yourself to be scammed.

Ms. C   New York

8:04pm on Tuesday, September 15th, 2009 

I just canceled my membership with NGC tonight and told my friend who also signed up to do the same. I feel motivated to just conduct my own grant research -- and hopefully something will work out. I thank and praise God for leading me to this site before my cancellation deadline came around. Thanks for all your helpful comments!

Mary   MO

11:25pm on Friday, September 11th, 2009 

I attended the first day of the conference and was totally disappointed. I spent $999. What a waste. The workshop was supposed to last from 9:00 am to 5:00 p.m. We were done by 3:30 p.m The teacher read the power point presentation from the screen to us.

Originally, NGC was supposed to help you get grants to start or expand your business, however, all he talked about was non-profit information. He also was supposed to help first time home buyers purchase a new home in 30 days, however, he seemed to steer away from that.
The information he gave us can be found on the internet or in the Library. The teacher made promises that he could have you in a home in 30 days, bla, bla, however, he only talked about investment property but of course you would have to pay 3,000 - $23,000 to get help with that.

I really would like my money back, however, reading the reviews that seems impossible to do. Can someone advise what they have done to get their money back.

Joan   Phoenix, Az

5:42pm on Thursday, September 3rd, 2009 

You can't contact NGC during the 72 hrs. legal quit time- within 2 weeks they contact you. I did my homework, had homes lined up workers ready contacted section 8, Hud housing, realtors, attorneys, credit scores they required, I gave them grant numbers from their book. GNC could NOT provide any GRANT FORMS. GNC extended my membership but did not notify me. Is there a suit against NGC ?

Fred   Atlanta

10:58pm on Monday, August 31st, 2009 

A very few people said that NGC was great (probably a plant from their company) and most comments were rated DREADFUL. Considering that there is nothing in-between then the DREADFUL's have it by default... especially since the good comments were from NGC employees. One good comment said that "of course they want to make money... just like McDonalds... bla bla bla -- the big difference is DISCLOSURE. Tell the truth upfront and then most of the problems go away. If NGC is doing seminars... then they need to DISCLOSE EVERYTHING UPFRONT. Because they Do Not do that then by definition... They Are Liars, Period. Nothing More.

Jackee   Cleveland, OH

2:15pm on Thursday, August 27th, 2009 

Pond Scum! Can best describe these groups. Yes they all are cleaned up in their Brooks Bros. suits but hold on to your wallets and credit cards. They salivate at the sight!

If you are looking for grant money contact your local library and see if there are groups or organizations in your area offering Grant Writing Classes. Some school districts, libraries or community colleges can help.

In the meantime stay away from those infomercials at 3am!!

Wiser Woman   Newark

11:29am on Monday, August 17th, 2009 

They indeed MISREPRESENT themselves for being upstanding and helpful. Unfortunately if you do not research before investing in information, you assume the risk of being "taken."

Ron S.   Spokane

10:48pm on Saturday, August 15th, 2009 

My wife and I attended the NGC a couple weeks ago. Sad to say we payed the $999. They said we could get our money back. Wrong!! You see, the first night they get your money, then the conference is held two weeks later. What they don't tell you is that you only have three days to ask for your money back. The conference is two weeks later. Guess what? You missed the three day deadline. What else they don't tell you is it's going to cost you another $4000 to $12000. You find this out at the conference two weeks later. I wonder how many people would ask for their money back or not sign up at all if they knew this in advance? All of them probably!! They also had another co. that got us to sign up for an internet business and they would have a team on hand to help you get it up and running so bring your lap tops. Cost, only $300. Guess what. Two weeks go by for their conference so no money back and you got it, Another $1100 in additional fees if you sign up and no team there to help you so don't bother bringing your lap top. They said for the sake of time they couldn't.If it sounds to good to be true it probably is!!!!

Ervin   las vegas

4:49pm on Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 

well me & my girlfriend went to this conference and i will admit it was very informative but 1 i don't understand why pay for something in which u can go get for free b-cuz all the stuff is a matter of public record & time put in...all a person has to do is research it!!! either online or at a library then they had another guy at the conference who does internet auctions so if no one spent their money with NGC then this other guy was bringing up the rear taking everyone else money...needless to say i didn't spend one red cent!!! with either of them just took in their info made notes and left did my own research and figured it out for myself...and last WHO THE HELL IS RICHARD WISEMAN??? I did look online & found no info whatsoever his company or otherwise seems nonexistent so my advice is if u just wanna give your money away go see them if not get to a library and do some research cause overall i will say stay away...SCAM SCAM SCAM is what they are about and that rebate stuff BULL****!!!!!

Wayne P   SPokane

10:17am on Sunday, August 2nd, 2009 

Will echo the sentiments of the majority of posters. My wife and I sat through 4 hours of this BS yesterday. Very slick speakers. I can see how those people who are hoping to get out of financial difficulty would be suckered in by this stuff. Oh, the 500 dollar merchant card...a total joke. You need to spend 100 dollars to get a 25 dollar rebate card and you need to keep doing this until your rebate totals 500 dollars. Uh huh....run away, run run away.

rafiqa muhammad   ca

9:17pm on Friday, July 24th, 2009 

i went to their seminar, and thought giving them close to 1000.00 would really help me fulfill some of my goals. i call them the the phone service and she gave me a couple of area and suggestions, but bottom line...i never got a grant and i am so disappointed in them, the speakers were motivated and seemed sincere about helping people. there are alot of people wanting to change their conditions in life, unfortunately, you have groups preying on our emotions .

unknown   unknown

8:07pm on Thursday, July 23rd, 2009 

Trust me when I tell you this. The company is run by crooks, stay away!!!!

Karen L   Anderson, Indiana

1:18pm on Monday, July 20th, 2009 

We attended a National Grants Conference at Indianapolis in May,and paid over $1,000. Since we were busy planning for a graduation party, I laid the box aside until the following week. During this time my son came to visit and ask what the box was. When we told him; he went to our computer and printed the BBB report. NGC had a "F rating because of over 100 unresolved com-plaints of the company; not performing their part of the contract.I called to cancel and was told that I was past the cancellation date, which I was never told about. This is now July and we still have not received our money back,even with a letter from our attorney who instantly recognized it as a scam. We are senior citizens who live on SS and a small pension, and sure couldn't afford to lose this amount of money on a scam.

Denis Johnston   Tucson Az

7:51pm on Monday, July 6th, 2009 

NGC suck.
Total scam artists, no offense intended to artists worldwide.

Judy   Louisana

2:50pm on Thursday, June 25th, 2009 

National Grants Conferences exceeded my expectations. Like most people, I thought only the big guys got grants. I had applied a couple of times before and never received responses from the agencies. After a lot of research and team work, NGC located a renewable grant that I qualified for. It has enabled us, and will continue to allow us in the future to make improvements to our non-profit day care center that we could have never afforded any other way. Last week we received they second check and next week, the nursery will have brand new flooring installed. I am sure there are a lot of people out there that think a big sack of money is going to fall out of the sky. The truth is, hard work, patience, and an open, teachable mind is needed to succeed here and National Grants is the support center to help you along the way. Just ask the kids when they see their new playground at the day care center!!

Phil Lacasse   GA

1:29pm on Thursday, June 25th, 2009 

I learned how to search and apply for rehab grants with National Grants Conferences. We were able to install a new furnace, air-conditioning coils, water heater, a brand new front entrance way door, new kitchen sink, and had all new insulation blown into the attic along with remodeling the roof and new shingles. The seminars were very informative and the staff was polite and supportive. They really care! I can't image why more people don't use this program.

Maureen   Virginia

12:19pm on Tuesday, June 23rd, 2009 

National Grants Conferences was able to help me get a $12,000 micro business loan. Being a woman in the business world can be tough enough, but looking for startup capital is even more difficult. Sharing this story is a way for me to let other small businesses like myself know it’s not as hard to find the money in the form of a loan or grant to build a successful business as one might think. I never thought I could get a loan or any other kind of financial assistance since I filed for bankruptcy 2 years ago. NGC really helped me start over and move forward towards my goals.

JP   Rialto

9:49am on Monday, June 22nd, 2009

Thank you for this site !!!

I almost made reservations today...than I became skeptical because (1) no return address (2) sounds too good to be true (3) whats that catch at the conference which probably involves paying for something. So, I decided to research online-found this site very helpful..I'm not attending seminar!!!

constance   atlanta

7:09am on Monday, June 22nd, 2009 

I GOT A CALL FROM THE NATIONAL GRANT FIRST BY NATIONAL GRANT BY THE NAME OF JOHN MARTIN BUT HE WAS CHINESE ON THE PHONE, AND THE I GOT A CALL FROM ERICA JOHNSON SHE IS CHINESE THEY GOT MY INFO FROM MY BANK AND I WAS SCAM BY THEM IT SUPPOSE TO BE 8,000 TO BE DEPOSIT AND THEY SAID IT WAS NOT SCAM, YA RIGHT, NO MONEY THE TELEPHONE THEY GAVE ME WAS 305-217-9327 WHEN I CALLED BACK THE SAME DAY IT WAS DISCONNECTED

chef   nc

10:58am on Sunday, June 14th, 2009 

thanks to all of you that came before me you saved me 4hrs.of wasted time.thanks

Linda   Glendale, AZ

2:05pm on Sunday, May 31st, 2009 

If what I've read is true on this web site, then too bad there is not a rating of "0" for "Criminal", or I would have selected that one instead. I attended one of these conferences about 8 years ago. I've seen infomercials lately about the conferences, and recently received two free tickets, a news article, and a $500 Merchant Redemption Voucher with the following companies on it:

Wal-Mart, bloomingdales, MACY'S, Sears, Best Buy, Lowe's, Sports Authority, Toys R Us(logo with R backwards of course), SAKS Fith Avenue, and JCPenny.

The dates, times and facilities listed on the tickets offering this conference include:

Sat, May 30th, 9:00 am and 3:00 p.m.
Renaissance Glendale Hotel & Spa
9495 W. Coyotes Blvd., Glendale, AZ 85305

Sun, May 31st, 9:00 a.m. and 3:00 p.m.
Crowne Plaza San Marcos Golf Resort
One N. San Marcos Place
Chandler, AZ 85225

Mon, June 1st, 1:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m.
Double Tree Paradise Valley Resort
5401 N. Scottsdale Road
Scottsdale, AZ 85250

Tue, June 2nd, 1:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m.
The Buttes a Marriott Resort (probably should be "at", not "a")
2000 Westcourt Way
Tempe, AZ 85282

With all these "reputable" companies and facilities, one would think there is some kind of infringement/fraudulent associations if these conferences are in fact predatory, which I'm not disclaiming in any way (there are just too many negative comments on this board). My first question is why aren't these companies and facilities verifying the legality/legitimacy of these conferences and the people profiting from them? Then, of course, why do they allow their company names/facilities to be advertised and used? If the BBB gives them a rating of "F", and this web site exists, why are they allowed to advertise such claims on TV --- where's the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), you know, the "Official government site of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), which regulates U.S. broadcast media and communications markets. [Gives information on FCC ...www.fcc.gov.]" Their responsibility is supposedly to monitor the accuracy of statements made to the public about products and services and prevent fraudulent claims over the TV and other advertising media.

I tend to get a little winded about these type of practices, and I appreciate your patience in reading it, but the bottom line is "Buyer Beware". My challenge is to the pro-bono legal gurus, "reputable" companies and facilities...investigate these conferences, hold the parties liable for its injustices (if proven), and if at all possible, return the monies to the people if in fact they were scammed.

To those of you who comment on this site, the more details about the possible/alleged perpetrators, the better job others can do if/when investigating all involved. If entities find that their names are being linked to such negativity (or "scams"), perhaps they will do more due diligence and enforce regulations to protect the public (and themselves) by not allowing their names to be used in the advertisements and their facilities to be used(i.e., sponsoring and reinforcing the legitimacy of the conferences to a certain extent). That would certainly limit "scammers" having easy access to its targets. If they don't, then don't turn around and victimize yourself again by supporting these companies/entities that are a party to the "scam" by continuing to purchase their products and/or services (frequenting their facilities).

Best of luck to everyone, and I'm glad I followed through with researching the National Grant Conference too. I missed the one yesterday because they had locked the doors already (it started at 3pm,I got there round 3:10pm),and I was debating on whether to attend either of the others. Of course, my decision is NO! Thanks again.

Jennifer Kastner   Tucson, AZ

5:42pm on Thursday, May 28th, 2009

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jb   alabama

3:00pm on Wednesday, May 27th, 2009 

signed-up for a conference for 6/7 in b'ham. sounded too good to be true, especially after receiving the same pkg (described by others) with no return address from J in los angeles. thanks for the confirmation. obviously, my husband and i will not be attending.

Marie   Baton Rouge LA

7:27pm on Monday, May 25th, 2009 

Thank you thank you thank you for this site. There is a new conference scheduled on the 30th of this month and you have saved me time and potentially money. This is ridiculous. I cannot believe that during our economic hardship there are business like this. Thank you to your website and those who have shared their stories.

Kristi C.   Dallas, TX

12:58pm on Friday, May 22nd, 2009 

I purchased a membership with National Grants Conference on August 6, 2008. The service they promised to provide which are books about grants in which I received. They promise to have qualified people to help you get your business started. They promise to have people to review your business plans as well as the 5013C status. I called them on April 22, 2009 to get the email address to submit my business plans. I emailed them and waited two weeks for a response as they told me. I did not receive a response. I called them again on May 8, 2009; they stated it was not received. The person I spoke with was name Chris Lavery. I emailed them again to him as I waited to make sure he received it and he did. He said he sent them over to be reviewed and he will see if they could be escalated since I had already waited.

I called again the following week and spoke with Chris Lavery again and he said they are still reviewing it. I called again on May 18, 2009 and spoke with J. Hartman, he informed me that they only received three of the business plans and I originally sent four. Mr. Hartman said that he would walk over to see what's the hold up. He put me on hold and came back and said there's 17 business plans in ahead of mines and I should receive a response by Friday, which is May 22, 2009. He gave me his email address to email the other business plan to him. I stayed on the phone with him to make sure he received it and he did. My spouse called in on the same day because he was upset that we will be placed back at the end of the line to have the last business plan reviewed. They informed him that our account has been inactive and that we will have to pay more money in order for them to assist us. First of all, they haven't been of any assistance to us. So, I told him let's wait until Friday because they told me three of the business plans will be finished reviewed by Friday.

I called them today and spoke with a person by the name of Al, he informed me that the account has been inactive because they failed to charge me a monthly fee of $29.95 in which I never heard of until now. Therefore, the review of the business plans is on hold until I pay them more money. I'm upset because I’m so close to getting my business started. I gave them access to my private information. I paid them $1200 in full and did not receive the service they promised. I feel they took our money and did not provide us the service they promised. If our account were inactive, someone would have stated that from the beginning. I could have paid that money to a local grant writing person to help me if I would have known I would receive service like this. I would like a full refund because they did not provide me with the service I needed.

Deno   Chicago

12:47am on Thursday, May 21st, 2009 

The lord works in mysterious ways. I attended Monday May 18, 2009 at the Hilton in Chicago. I listened to both spills and heard more insults toward non business owners than advice. I was going to go the next day and pay but had a union meeting that I forgot about. Thank you lord. I almost got scammed. Thanks for this web site. They did get $20.00 for the web site builder. Hope it is not the scam you described. If it is OH WELL. $20.00 is a lot less than all of that money to a bankrupt company.

raquel   fort lauderdale

3:38pm on Monday, May 18th, 2009 

I see a lot of comments about grant info being free online BUT no one giving anymore info even after a few have asked the simple question of "where do we start"

I wanted school grants so i googled "state of florida grants"

I visited the urls that were .gov and found it pretty quickly.

If you are looking for the application for student grants and financial aid please go here http://www.fafsa.ed.gov/ If this board doesn't allow urls to be visible then google "FAFSA". This website is for all states but there are deadlines to submit your app so please check out the deadline page. Also remember that it doesn't cost anything to apply for student aid or grants.

If anyone else has found info for other type of grants please post.

D   Gonzales, Louisiana

3:05pm on Friday, May 15th, 2009 

My wife just received a letter postmarked from Los Angeles, CA 90052 with no return address. Behold, there's a newspaper article with a PostIt from J saying that my wife has to see the authentic looking piece of paper. The individual was generous enough to send along a $500 Merchant Redemption Voucher and two complimentary tickets ($149.00 each) to an NGC event in Baton Rouge and Lafayette on May 30, 31 and June 1. I glanced at the folded paper and said "It's a SCAM.", I immediately typed in NGC and SCAM in Google to find this page and confirm my suspicions. Needless to say, I filed it in the shredder under BS.
Here is wisdom: NOTHING that comes unexpected in snail mail (or email) can solve your financial problems. If you receive the correspondence described above, destroy it at all costs. Always remember to use the company name and "SCAM" as keywords before spending a dime or a minute of your time!

Andrew J   Indianpolis

9:56am on Friday, May 15th, 2009 

I sat through one of these f#*!ing seminars and thought that the individual who was selling the ketchup popsycle was enticing a lot of white glove wearers. I walked up to the individual that was giving the presentation during the intermission of BS, and I could tell by the lack of eye contact that this was a multiple person scheme. He would corral the herd and then split the finalization process off to the jeckyls that he contained at the back wall. To everyone that gets sucked into one of these conferences keep in mind that if the BBB gives them an 'F' that maybe you should do the same, but make sure you give them the universal 'FU'. You'll be a lot better off and nine hundred to fifteen hundred dollars richer.
Thanks for reading
I hope this helps
MOJO.

Lucia   Waterbury, CT

9:19pm on Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 

Got scammed $5,000 by NGC 3 weeks ago-- to bad I did not find this website sooner--I'm going to try to call the BBB for advise in getting my money back, because I had called NGC for a refund but they said thats impossible since their policy is no refund done after three days of purchase--the funny thing is that i did not get my package three weeks later. Any one knows who can I call that will take care of these people and how I can get my money back?

Michelle   Indiana

5:31pm on Monday, May 11th, 2009 

yep, they are up to it again in Indianapolis indiana at the Hilton. You can go online and get
all this info for free or go to your local library.
But it will be some fools that pay 999 for this scam package deal.!! Run, Run, Run, IT IS A SCAM
RUN, RUN, RUN. THE CONFERENCE IS FREE, YOU KNOW WHY, BECAUSE YOU FOOLS PAY FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!
HEY ANY BODY GOT ANY MORE MONEY TO THROW AWAY
SEND TO ME...HOW DO THEY GET AWAY WITH IT

Anonymous   Location unknown

12:00pm on Friday, May 8th, 2009 

They took me for $1000.00 on March 30 2009. I had 72 hours to send them a fax canceling the agreement to be eligible for a FULL REFUND It has been over 5 weeks and I have called there phone number several times and Im getting nowhere they say they are gonna send the money back but never do. Im ready to take LEGAL action .....ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHAT TO DO?????

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:30am on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 

I thank all of you for your comments, you have just saved me 1K. I attended the conference over the weekend and wrote a check to this company but intuition told me to research and read for any scams. Thank God I did! I was able to place a stop on the check before it was submitted to the bank and saved myself $965. I agree, we should all get together and put these scammers under the jail! I have been researching grants for over a year now and everyone assisting with the grant writing process is asking for at least $1400 and up so I jump at the this opportunity because it was several hundred dollars cheaper than I have heard in the past year. Maybe I'm just searching in all the wrong places. There are no "free" grant writing services. However, this is definitely not the way to go....

SATISFIED   MEMBER

9:19pm on Thursday, April 30th, 2009 

ALL THE PEOPLE WHO COMPLAIN ARE LAZY!! NGC OFFERS PLENTY OF HELP. YOU NEED TO BE PRO ACTIVE, ASK QUESTIONS, REQUEST INFORMATION. MOST PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING A FREE HANDOUT. OF COURSE THEY OFFER OTHER PRODUCTS AND SERVICES FOR MORE MONEY, THEY'RE A COMPANY TRYING TO MAKE MONEY LIKE ANY OTHER. LOOK AT MCDONALDS, DO THEY ONLY OFFER 1 THING...NO!! MOST PEOPLE WANT INSTANT RESULTS, THINGS DO TAKE TIME. JUST MAKE THE CALLS, ASK THE QUESTIONS AND DO THINGS ONE STEP AT A TIME AND YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL!! GET IT TOGETHER PEOPLE!!!

Kim   Bowen

10:41am on Sunday, April 26th, 2009 

Maybe overshooting the ratiing, first time attending so It all seemed legit. If not where is the help and info available? Atlanta Marriot northwest on 4/25/09.

Lena   Atlanta

10:52am on Friday, April 24th, 2009 

Well I'm glad I found this site. I expected them to be selling something but not for $1K.

For Angela, Cleveland, Ohio Posted at 7:55am on Tuesday, March 24th:

How can I find someone to help me for free in this process. I've been interested in getting grants for a while now but everything online is money. And I'm not against money, I just didn't want to pay ANYTHING unnecessarily. I just want to know what's REALLY expected when submitting applications... I don't even know where to start really!

Jennifer   New Jersey

10:15am on Thursday, April 16th, 2009 

All they do is charge you an arm and a leg for information that is publicly available. They also misinform people about where they can get funds. I used to work for a nonprofit credit counseling agency. They would give people a list of agencies like ours and tell them to call us to get money. We didn't have any money--just counseling services. Don't waste your time or money with them.

Raymond   Las Vegas, NV

6:00pm on Tuesday, April 7th, 2009 

I think that the National Grants Conferences is full of sh*t...

Claudia Garcia   Honolulu

1:47am on Sunday, April 5th, 2009 

I was at the presentation March 31st at the Sheraton in Waikiki.My intuition told me to check the Internet before I made a decision and I am so glad I did! I felt so bad for all those people who signed up with all their hopes of getting ahead in their lifes. Why is nobody from the Government stopping this company from ripping people off? I will warn all my friends from them ! I hope you do too !

monique   philadelphia

11:31am on Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 

i went to a conference 6 years ago. I paid the $900.00 fee the only thing they helped with was links to get credit report and first time home buyers websites no real help then when i tried to call about 2 years ago they wanted me send the more money b/c i didnt use the service in a while. total rip off

DANNY RAMOS   VISALIA, CA

2:34pm on Tuesday, March 31st, 2009 

NOT EVERYBODY IN THE CONFERENCE HAD THE FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE PROGRAM. I BELIEVE THAT WAS UNFAIR TO THE COMMON BLUE COLLAR WORKERS.

dk   Honolulu

9:38pm on Monday, March 30th, 2009 

Stuck about 20 people here in Oahu today Ihilani. 20k for 3hours work. Not a bad day eh?

Irene B,   Honolulu

7:13pm on Sunday, March 29th, 2009 

I've just got back from the seminar at Ala Moana Hotel, Honolulu, HI.
"Teacher's" name was Trent Ellingford. To be honest, he is an extremely good salesman, and a lot of people in Hawaii signed in. I feel bad for them.

Thank you guys for your site!

Angela   Cleveland, Ohio

7:55am on Tuesday, March 24th, 2009 

I attended 2 of these seminars, one last year, and yesterday, (March 23, 2009), both at the Hilton in Beachwood, Ohio. My elderly mother had me take her both times. What amazed me both times was the people that they target; black, elderly, handicapped, low income people. The wealthy only help the wealthy. They never tell poor people how to invest or get wealth, unless it's a scam. I was a "GUN SLINGER" both times. I use to work for a grant writer, who wrote a grant for himself to offer FREE assistance to any person who wanted to apply for government grants. He did not charge the public for his services. On March 23, 2009 at the Beachwood, Ohio Hilton, at least 30 people paid $999.00 for information that is FREE!

craig   wisconsin

11:20am on Sunday, March 22nd, 2009 

I am sitting in the conference right now and had my bad feelings all along so what should I do...

David   Ohio

10:13am on Saturday, March 14th, 2009 

Thank all of you for this eye opening, honest web site. My prayers go out to those that have been scammed. I will not attend the "Conference" in Akron Ohio on March 21, 2009, others BE WARE! Pass it on!

A. Fletcher   SPO.WA.

9:37pm on Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 

Good thing I accidentally found this site cause I was working my butt off and couldn't figure out what was going on. What a huge huge let down. I truly believed this was going to work and help me out and all it did was cost me money I dont have in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anisha   Milwaukee, WI

9:16am on Tuesday, March 10th, 2009 

Unfortunately, my fiance was one of the ppl that got suckered into this. He went to the seminar last night to receive a $500 retail voucher (which turned out to be a waste of time!) and ended up spending $999.00. They ran out of packets and did not seem apologetic at all. So after he spent a thousand dollars on this system, he comes home with a contract saying that after 6 months there is a monthly fee of $30!! How can they continue to run their business?

Shaylee   Colorado Springs

8:55pm on Sunday, March 8th, 2009 

Thank you so much for your review. I was suppose to attend the conference tomorrow, and after I saw and read all the negative statements I am not going. Thank you for saving me the time.

rey   texas

5:19am on Thursday, March 5th, 2009 

wow!! what a scam indeed. I just signed up for this seminar after seeing the infomercial (who hasn't seen any of these scamming infos). Well, after seeing these reviews(all which indicate a scam) I,m not going to this conference.I,m sure they.ll send me e-mails and stuff about "we missed you at the seminar" and crap like that. But, i,ll just keep "spamming" their e-mails. Thanks for this cool review website.

Lorraine   Norwalk CA.

1:06pm on Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 

Wow I almost got suckered into this scam. It's a good thing my friend went into false labor during this seminar yesterday or I would have given them the $999.00 had I stayed.

pauline haley   Location unknown

10:59am on Wednesday, February 18th, 2009 

My friend and I attended the conference on 2/8/09 and my friend wrote a check for the program to the tune of $1100. How can she get her money back? Any suggestions from anyone? It looks like too late to stop payment on the check.

Karla   TX

8:57am on Monday, February 16th, 2009 

Thank for the advice.
Nick from NY, you have to cancel, send a fax, credit card companies no cancel any charges on your purchases, believe me. I have a lot experience with that. I certainly believe what you have to do is failed a lawsuit all of you.
Good luck.

Julia   Tacoma WA

8:11am on Sunday, February 15th, 2009 

I went to their show yesterday. I walked away empty handed, but my mind was filled with hope and a desire to put together a plan, once I have a plan then I can then look into programs I can reach out for...on my own of course.

I can say thanks to NGC for atleast opening my mind to more possibilities and opportunities I had never considered before, they sure got my hamster wheels spinning.

It was pretty convincing show and lucky for me, I did NOT sign up. Funny thing is,I don't know how many times he said "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is"...( but not NGC of course. ) ha ha ha! I am so glad you all shared your reviews. There was a ton of people buying it yesterday. They definitely put on a good show. But I can see from your reviews that's about the only thing it is. Thanks for posting!

Frank Sinatra   Location unknown

12:29am on Thursday, February 12th, 2009 

My friend and I are planning to attend this for the mere say to laugh at it because of such a hoax that it is. I have tried before to get money this way and the fact of the matter is is that money will never be free. Although on the plus side we hope to be quite amused by it.

vera oliver   chicago il

10:43am on Wednesday, February 11th, 2009

I attended this meeting last night 2/10/2008 with a friend of mine.We went to get information on a non-profit organization. After he went thru all of the grants he did proceeded to show on the screen that it cost $1497.00 I knew then that I was not going to pay this amount for this program.He then brought up on the screen $999.00.Well I know that I did not have the money to pay for this but it all sounded so good and I had wished I had the money to pay for it.I did see 2 young ladies purchase this but,most of the people got up and left and some stayed around to talk to each other.Steve tells us that this is the tax payers money so why should it be so hard for us to get back our own money.I just feel so bad for the ones that did get caught up in this.I am did get some good advice from talking to other people last night and will do my Own research and hopefully with prayer will come across some of the free grant money.

Nick   New York

9:19am on Wednesday, January 28th, 2009 

My father and myself both signed up on monday night at a conference. the next day i did some research and and found out everything on these websites are true. I called to try out there counselors and got the message that there counselors are too busy to talk and to leave a message. I then left a message on their cancel line to cancel my membership. I guess ill wait and see if they get back to me. I already called my credit card company and informed them of this charge and that i am trying to cancel. So im not worried about losing my money. The thing that annoyed me was the amount of people who signed up and these people were obviously not well off. I decided to pursue this on my own without the supposed help of the NGC.

Daniel M. Gormley   Lake Worth, Fl

6:17pm on Tuesday, January 27th, 2009 

I gave them a check om 1-26-09. On 1-27-09 I registered on the internet to be able to log onto their site. They e-mailed me I was successful. I tried to log on and got error message user (e-mail) name was not valid.

So I called there office in Boca Raton, Fl. All I got was an answer machine, leave a message.

On the receipt was white stickers over the address like they changed there address & phone numbers. All seemed suspicious.

I went on the internet looked them up in search. Surprise all I found.

I logged into the Better Business Bureau. They rate them an "F", and BBB's opinion is they question the company's reliability, advertising is grossly misleading, not in compliance with the law's licensing or registering requirements.

BBB states the company's industry is known for its fraudulent practices.

I just stopped payment on my check and faxed in my Notice of Cancellation.

I can't afford to loose that kind of money and get nothing for it.

Thank You all!!!

Captain Dan Gormley

Jay   Bocca

3:14pm on Thursday, January 15th, 2009 

If you are a current member less than a year you need to call and get a refund. They have filed chapter 11 and closed their Rochester office a day after Christmas. No warning. they will be closing and you will be out of your money. This company is run by Mike and Irene Mylan. Just google their names. Also the CEO is Matt Orlando. Criminal charges may be filed soon regarding their corporate dealings. Make the call and get your money back.
I had a few friends who worked for them and they tried to help but the owners did not care and that is why so many people lost their jobs a few weeks ago.

Cathy   Colorado

3:45pm on Monday, January 12th, 2009 

My husband and I attended this "conference" this past Saturday, January 10th, in Denver after having received a full page newspaper article with a yellow sticky stating "You've gotta see this -- J" or something to that effect". Plus, we were lead to believe we would receive what was purported to be a three volume set of books for simply attending. Those turned out to be nothing more that 3 pamphlet type publications. The $500 certificate of whatever it was turned out to be nothing either. However, because we didn't know yet what the gifts really turned out to be, we forced ourselves to sit through the website speel which was actually quite amusing at best. We've been taken SO many times by scams like this, but somehow we thought this would be different since it claimed to involved obtaining government money for legitimate purposes and decided to at least check it out. We had absolutely no intention of spending one dime without first sleeping on it and checking more fully into this outfit's credibility. Bankruptcy? Not surprising at all! Thanks much for saving us a ton of money and grief this time around!!!

rob   co

10:19pm on Sunday, January 11th, 2009 

thanks for the info i was supposed to go to th seminar tomorrow after reading this im not going you saved me 4 hrs of wasted time because i dont have the money for it anyway

Frank   Florida

10:46am on Thursday, January 8th, 2009 

They are in Bankruptcy (Chapter 7 in FL and IL and 11 in FL). See below:

Chapter 11 - NATIONAL GRANTS CONFERENCES flsbke 08-28469 12/03/2008 PROVEN METHODS SEMINARS, LLC

Chapter 7 - NATIONAL GRANTS CONFERENCES flsbke 08-30225 12/24/2008 PROVEN METHODS SEMINARS, LLC

Chapter 7 - NATIONAL GRANTS CONFERENCES ilnbke 08-32460 11/26/2008 PROVEN METHODS SEMINARS, LLC

Carroll Williams   Los Angeles

10:24am on Wednesday, January 7th, 2009 

I went to the conference and I enjoyed it.

mark   Tx.

9:30pm on Sunday, December 28th, 2008 

Sounded good, joined for $900 plus. What they don't tell you is that these govt. grants are given to the states and application in almost all cases must be made to the state. We have a daughter with disability since birth and wanted assistance for disabled bathroom home modification. After many months of not getting anywhere with the membership and finding it impossible to find any grant program in our state region and district I gave up. This conference group is as corrupt as the government and states that you deal with. Look at the Ex-Government officials who are associated with this group.
They should all be in prison... all the other criminal political hacks in the system.
The only thing these type of people do well is steal, steal, steal.....now there is not much left of this country.
Gob bless and God save America

Don Greenham   NJ

9:15pm on Sunday, December 21st, 2008 

I paid $999 2 years ago. Scam Thay belong in Jail! Every body should get together and do a ciass action law suit

Bonnie   Houston

8:11am on Friday, December 19th, 2008 

Thanks for posting this on your site! I keep getting mail containing a newspaper article about their grant seminars with a post-it attached to the newspaper clipping that says, "Bonnie, You gotta go see this! J." It looks mysterious, like a friend might have sent it to me. This time it contained 2 tickets and a voucher for a free $250 Wal-Mart card if I attend. I am glad I came across this sight. I almost went. Thanks again!

Jane   LA

4:03pm on Saturday, December 13th, 2008 

THEY ARE BANKRUPT -- FILED DECEMBER 3RD.

T. Brooks   Nevada

10:35pm on Friday, December 12th, 2008 

I paid the 2,000.00 for my husband and I. Above that, I purchased the 800 phone service, Merchant account service, online business and drop shipper cd's. We couldn't figure it out, made contact and they said we could purchase their assistance for an additional 16,000.00. We didn't have the funds and felt scamed. I called the BBB, they confirmed this company was a scam. Our account still gets debited the monthly fees and their is a stiff financial penalty to cancel. People should get together and do a class action suit.

S.C.   CHICAGO,IL

1:13pm on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 

we knew that something was'nt right when they started talking to fast and asking for money then went from gov.grants to web cites . from the highest 999.00 - 297.00 - 20.00. and i 'am just glad that we didn't fall for the whole game. i was jipped out of 20.00 which is to much. from this point on trust not what you hear or what you may see {only what you feel}. and you wont go wrong.

Dave   CA

11:09am on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008 

better call for your refund. they just filed chapter 11.

Phillip Rivera   Arizona

5:51pm on Saturday, November 8th, 2008 

I am still waiting to figure out how to get a grant after 2 years. I paid my 1,ooo dollars and was told 39.95 a month for free telephone support to lead me in the right direction towards getting a grant after 2 full 8-10 hour days of work shops. i still don't know what to do. They said i could pay them more money to do the application for me. they already got 1,ooo dollars.

Jean M.   Louisville, KY

1:14pm on Tuesday, October 28th, 2008 

I am so glad I stumbled upon this site when I did.
I just attended a National Grants Conference Seminar and spent the $999 to get all ready to get some FREE money from the government. We had the same speaker Mr. Wiseman and the internet get rich quick guy at the end of the program. I thought it sounded "to good to be true" and after reading these comments, decided that it was. I stopped payment on my check and am moving on to other more important issues. Thanks so much for your help.

Melissa Morton   winchester, ky

4:08pm on Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 

Thank God i found this website, for yrs I have been trying to get a govt. grant. keep getting doors shut. I believe this whole thing is a scam. If it is true where are the people who do get these real govt. grants? I keep getting ripped off on govt. grant companies that say they can get them for me I am suppose to go to a NGC this week and thought I would check it out on the internet and I found this website. Thank God I did. It has saved me a lot of time and trouble.

Mary Baldwin   Antioch, CA

12:14pm on Tuesday, October 14th, 2008 

I attended the conference 4 years ago. I had just lost my husband and was looking for a way to make more money to save my home. I thought this would do it. I plunked down the money, and got exactly nowhere. I have since done my own research and found out that you have to be a non profit, govt agency, etc in order to get 99.9% of those grants.

Thanks for your site.

Roy   Las Vegas

12:53pm on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 

It sas a SCAM !. In hard times like now, companies like this should be held to a greater standard. If you see them on TV info turn channel and run.

christopher k freitas   hawaii

10:11pm on Thursday, September 11th, 2008 

if thtz how thy conduct bussiness going around and ripping ppl off is tht how our government works wow we work our asses off for bs like this its not worht it at all they should give back a little back

Kari   Cascade

6:55pm on Wednesday, August 20th, 2008 

My Husband and I went to the National Grants conference in Boise 8 years ago in May at one of the Hotel conference rooms in Boise, we paid 801.45, after a year went by called to get started on a grant, then we were told it would be an additional 25 a months for services, also I went for a previous conference, and was introduced to ROMA computers, what a joke, i was gulible and left with signing a 3 year lease on a worthless laptop computer, then paid for mentoring to help build my website, the mentoror even said the whole thing was a scam they gave you a bunch of discs to sell to people for 27 dollars which were worthless watch out for ROMA computers it's a BIG SCAM wish i would have read this website clear back then, hard lesson to learn

Joanne   Reno

1:34pm on Thursday, July 31st, 2008 

I attended a National Grants seminar about a year ago and they wanted 2000.00! I could not afford it but I did get the online business cd for 20.00 but could not get it to work-I feel luck to have just been taken for the 20.00

contina bell   raleigh, NC

3:58pm on Monday, June 23rd, 2008 

I attended a 4 hour conference for NGC. They had this guy by the name of Richard Wiseman from Salt Lake City as the "contractor working with NCG" to "teach" his students about making your dreams happen with grants. He got everyone on board by talking about the gunslingers that are every group that talk about how nothing this is fake but he (Richard) is a living testimonial. He talked mostly about first time home buyer grants and real estate investment. He really did not tough on grants for other purposes. This lead me to believe that it was just a real estate scam. I for one do not take my money, check book, or credit cards to places like this and that way I am not tempted by the hype. The programs that he talked about anyone that has ever looked for programs locally already knows about them. I did not hear anything earth shattereing. The FREE gifts that they tell you that you will get are simply promotional materials that offer no information. I wanted to yell to everyone who was giving away their $900 to stop go home and think about it for 48 hours. They tell you that they won't be back in the area for years as a way to make you feel desperate. My advice to anyone interested, if you are interested go to a conference and leave all of your sources for paying $900 at home and that way if you are tempted you can't act impulsively. DON'T EVEN HAVE CARDS AND CHECKS IN THE CAR!!!! I truly believe that NGC is a scam.

sandra   tx

9:48pm on Saturday, April 19th, 2008 

My mother paid my mother and I are in this program it does help you just need to make phone calls write a letter and send. At 1st yeah its hard because even in there meetings they say you have to work for it you have to make phone calls and get the right one when you have that they send you an application ur all set.

Ms Bzness   new york

9:11am on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

I attended the conference on Feb. 27 @ the Holiday INN. The presenter went on appealing to the emotions of the audience by having us raise their hands to answer "Who want to own property by the end of March? Who wants to do this and that? While I stood with my hand up then came the kicker a $1300 payment for a discounted price of $100. Yeah, like I'm walking arond with that kind of loot.
I am quite intellingent and can conduct my own research. Anyone that is willing to do a little research and get info. can get the info on their own. Also, there are so many resource on grant writing. Also, so many organizations that can assist with that.
i'm not getting suckered like my fellow conference goers did.
By the way, I found several grants on my own and I'm in the process of applying.
Pure BS, I could not stay for the entire legnthy BS, so I could not get the free booklets.
BS!!

j   redmond, washington

9:33am on Tuesday, February 26th, 2008

i wish i had read this a couple of year ago. i went to the conference but didn't have the money for the program. i stayed through the seminar anyway and were told there was going to be another seminar right after it by some guy who was supposed to help people start their own online business. i stayed for that one as well and got sucked in. i scrambed the $20 together and paid for the start up disk. then paid $200 for the seminar in which we were supposed to get one-one assistance with starting up our webpages, etc. i tried to use the disks to start my online business and couldn't figure it out. i was told i had to pay an additional $30 a month to keep the business going. something i hadn't noticed when i signed up.

Sandra   New Jersey

7:36pm on Sunday, February 24th, 2008 

I attended the seminar today at the Newark Airport and almost got sucked into this scam.

Thank God I read about this a fewn months back.
I just wantd to see for my self.

Sandy M. New Jersy

Ofelia   Nevada

6:41am on Sunday, January 27th, 2008 

When I signed up they told me I can add a family member, who they will also help. My daughter went to them and they couldn't find my information and refused to help her. I went to them and they found my information fine and told me to have my daughter call them again. This time they told my daughter she wasn't eligible for help. What? What did I pay for. This year I went to them for help, thinking maybe the first incident was just an anamoly. They told me I needed a business plan. Ok. That sounded plausible. I could either do the business plan myself and they would submit it or they could do it for me (to better ensure my application would be accepted). They would, however, charge $6000. to do my business plan. Sooooo... that was a ton a money I just flushed down the toilet and I wasn't going to flush anymore!

Christy M.   Boise

5:32pm on Sunday, December 30th, 2007 

We signed up for this opportunity a year ago. It was a complete let down. I wish that I had come across your site a year ago, Steve. We would have not wasted the $999.00 that we paid out to help our business, it didn't help it at all.

Thanks for your site!!!