Quixtar Reviews
Is Quixtar a Legitimate Business or a Scam...?
Quixtar was founded in 1999 and is now
run by the same company that owns Amway. The Quixtar business model is very similar
to Amway's except it uses the internet in an
unconventional manner. In North
America you can only join Quixtar through
the referral of an already established
member known as an IBO (Independent Business
Owner).
The way that Quixtar operates is that
every IBO has access to selling Quixtar
products through their website. As an
IBO you are encouraged to purchase as many
Quixtar products as you can as well as
simultaneously recruit more IBOs.
What happens is that your referrer gets a
percentage or a commission from the products
you purchase from Quixtar. Likewise
you will get a commission from the purchases
of all your IBOs. According to Quixtar
your commission percentage depends on your
IBO level within the company. So, in
theory, the more people you recruit the
higher your level gets and the more
commission you get.
There are several problems with this
business model that your Quixtar rep won't
tell you about. First of Quixtar has
severe limits on your freedom to advertise
your website online. Like I said
before a very unconventional use of the
internet which can potentially yield
thousands of customers; a resource that they
will not let you use properly.
Quixtar wants you to rely on one-on-one
communication and word of mouth advertising.
This may have been fun and effective twenty
years ago but in this day of e-mail, drive
through any things, and internet ready cell
phones who has time to listen to you talk
about vitamins for hours.
Next, you need to realize that your
entire income depends on how much stuff
people in your down line will purchase.
Since Quixtar products are priced right
around retail your commission is not going
to support your family unless you can
convince your down line into abandoning the
conveniences of real stores and purchase all
their goods from Quixtar.
So what you get is a situation where
you're not allowed to properly advertise and
have a need for people to purchase Quixtar
products daily. Quixtar also likes to reassert its
credibility by pointing out all the name
brand companies that it's partnered with.
The thing is that large corporations don't
care who is selling for them as long as they
are moving product, they make the money not
you.
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Customer Reviews for 'Quixtar'
Comments to date: 489. Page 1 of 5. Average Rating:  Joe Texas | 2:46pm on Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010 | Lisa from Michigan, you have been misled.
Helping others may be noble, and developing yourself as a person is all good and fine, but that is not a business. A business is to make a profit by selling goods and/or services.
Many MLM companies sell products, and have a side business of training materials attached to them, most prominently Amway. These side businesses priority is to sell people their training materials. The talk about being a nicer person or helping others is just a distraction so you don't notice that you aren't making money.
Helping people in MLM is a farce because you are only helping people who sign up with you or show interest in the business. The rest are cannon fodder. |
Lisa Michigan | 9:50pm on Monday, July 26th, 2010  | It seems people have no vision and stop dreaming. What is THEIR plan? It's all about mindset, you won't get where you want to be in life (i.e. financial/time freedom) working for someone else. Being in any business, especially a MLM, is also about developing yourself as a person, and then helping others.
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hate quixtar raleigh | 2:36pm on Monday, July 19th, 2010  | My ex boyfriend has been in quixtar for the past 10 years, when we were together i begged him to wake up and smell the coffee, that quixtar is just a scam, he is 33 years old and refuses to move out of his parents house because he wants to spend all his money on products, seminars, trips etc. IBO's, uplines, downlines, these people seriously need help. quixtar was one of the reasons we broke up, this company ruins people's lives. He can't even pay his own bills because he wants to invest all his money in this business, these people need prayer. It was so embarrassing going out with my ex and watching him do his quixtar pitch..I am glad i don't have to do that anymore. |
Anonymous Location unknown | 8:16am on Friday, July 16th, 2010 | CT California: That's right. That's how they make their money - through rally tickets, worthless books, cds, audio cassettes, etc. Meanwhile, you are working very hard to make your "business" grow. (LOL) Wait, what business? LOL. Tell your cousin to fall off the cliff and see if anyone of these Quixstar IBOs wackos come to her or his rescue as they time after time act like they are your best friends and buddies.
Tex Texas: I couldn't agree with you more. I guess, it started with Amway. Since Amway stayed in business without government giving them any problems all these years, they felt so sure that they can get away with more scams by starting Quxistar. As far as FTC goes, I believe FTC don't want to take their head out of their a-hole is because they are in this scam too or FTC was bought by Quixstar and Amway to keep their mouth shut. Let me put it this way, no matter how many laws and regulatory committees we create, they are only as good as the people running and executing them. So, in the other word, when it comes to government and laws, it is only as good as the people running the government. So, there I said it. They are all robbers. |
CT California | 11:49am on Friday, July 9th, 2010  | I had a wonderful opportunity to come to one of the conferences held by BWW (Brit World Wide). My cousin tricked me to come see her since she was in town. I was dragged to a nice hotel conference room where thousands of Indians gathered to here other Indians talk about how much money they make. These MLM companies are scams, they appeal to poor saps who aim to get rich quick or make an extra 30-40k a year working PART TIME. Sounds like a dream right? well it is. The only people who make money are those selling the CD's and conference tickets. The nutritional products are pure junk.
Here's a quick snip of what a conference entails. A couple people are introduced, they are always engineers or doctors (if they are doctors why do they need extra money?), alot of them are husbands and wifes. When they come out, a song is playing full blast with lyrics saying something like "Show me the money, i want the money" then all these little indian kids (assuming their downline or upline or whatever) come up to the stage and high fives them. so these people come on and talk about the wonderful help they have offered to others and how being mentors was the best experience ever. Then some other "emerald" or "eagle", "double eagle" or whatever guy comes on and talks about how much money one can make, he then draws out how to recruit people for your business and low and behold, he is drawing a (you guessed it) pyramid.
I feel terrible for my cousin but this cult has made her a believer for life. I yelled at her when she told me not only did she have to pay for the hotel room, she had to pay for a two day conference ticket which is 400 bucks. Dont buy into Quixtar/BWW/Usana etc companies. they are scams. They all sell the same products (let me guess SX energy drinks and nutrilite shakes right?) I know these because my own family and friends has tried to get me to join many different MLM type schemes. |
Tex Texas | 12:15am on Friday, July 9th, 2010  | Amway has ripped off millions of people for several decades, to the tune of 10s of billions of dollars.
Amway is a scam, and here's why: Amway pays out as little money as they can get away with, so they support the higher level IBOs ripping off their downline via the tool scam.
As a result, about 99% of IBOs operate at a net loss, while the top 1% make several TIMES more from their Amway tool scam than from the Amway products. This was made illegal in the UK in 2008, but our FTC is unable to pull their heads out of their butts to stop it here. |
Joe Pittsburgh Location unknown | 11:10am on Thursday, June 24th, 2010  | Joe Texas: You hit the nail right on. My point exactly. These companies don't tell you the actual story but sugar code it with false statements blah blah to coax an innocent people off the street. So, they can scam them out of their hard earned money in giving them false hope. It's just like the late night infomercials. If you keep watching them, you will eventually buy their junk books and cds and what not. I never bought anything from infomercials for I know they are all nothing but phony. Remember the guy with question marks all over his shirt and pants running around Washington screaming his throat out saying, "Government has ton of money to give away for whatever purpose or reason you may have" like starting a business, for research on and on. I always had a kick out of watching this guy though LOL.
Eli Charlotte, NC: The thing is though, Eli. Once you fall in their trap they don't give you a chance to think or ask question. In way, they already have answers to anything you may ask and the whole business is very well scripted.
Jane Smith Palatine, Il: Jane Smith grab your daughters hands and drag her into her room and lock her up. Then, get your leather belt and wip her until she comes to her senses. Or, grab all of your credit cards and bank account statements and burn them. So, she won't keep coming to you to pay for this get-rich-quick scheme. I will say it again and again and forever. Quixstar and Amway are teamed up to scam the whole United States of America and the world. Hold on to your wallets, Jane Smith.
Anon Australia: I guess Anon didn't have a chance to read my past postings or she or he simply wants to be an ignorant and start opening his or her mouth only because she or he is part of this scheme and don't want to see others bad mouthing the "System." LOL. Anon wake up and smell the coffee. I do have a business of my won with very minimum investment today and from day one I have been making money. Before that, I joined Quixstar and stayed with them for 8 to 9 months, put a lots of money into the system and followed everything as I was instructed by my upline to the teeth. I myself had over 7 IBOs below me and do you think I was receiving big fat checks from Quixstar. In fact, uplines always kept asking me money for this and that and go here and go there. I saw not a single penny after everything was said and done. Any question Anon?
Former Quixtar Success US: Hello Former Quixstar Success. You are absolutely right that the money is made from the "System" not the products. I figured that out within the first month of becoming an Quixstar IBO. I kept writing checks and handing out money for this and for that - rally tickets, books, cds, audio cassettes, video cassettes. |
Joe Texas | 1:01pm on Tuesday, June 8th, 2010 | It's very simple. The Amway promoters will say that it takes hard work, to give it the appearance that it's not too good to be true. But they do imply or even promise that you will get rich following their system. What they don't tell you is that the system is how many Amway promoters actually make most of their money.
For those of you who think the system works, can you name a few people who actually got rich and do not work anymore due to Amway income? Why do diamonds and crown ambassadors continue to work if they have mountains of cash coming in without working?
Why are there reports of diamonds quitting, resigning and why are there diamonds who had homes foreclosed and one prominent diamond in bankruptcy proceedings? Where is the success they brag about? Showing me a slideshow of fancy cars and mansions is not proof of financial security. |
Eli Charlotte, NC | 11:08pm on Friday, June 4th, 2010  | I heard about this a couple of times but was very cautious. When you start a business, one that succeeds, you put blood, sweat and tears into it. There are no get rich quick outcomes out there. How do you believe what they show you? you need to question the things you see. I'm glad I never bought into it and saw the whole thing as BS from the beginning.
Joe from Texas...I like your style!!! :) You go! |
Jane Smith Palatine, Il. | 7:52pm on Friday, June 4th, 2010  | Please help! I have been researching Amway/Quixtar for about a week or so since my college-age daughter told me she is going to become rich doing this!!! I have been trying to convince her to stop now and get out. What else can I do to persuade her? She seems to have total faith in her "upline" and everything she is being told. |
Anon Australia | 6:46am on Thursday, June 3rd, 2010  | I am amazed at the ignorance I am reading about here, most of you are incredible. Some of you saying "no such thing as a scam, it takes time and money to make money, but I have not heard that anyone who has actually applied the steps of the system to the letter! No one in these MLM business makes you buy anything you do not want to buy. All the products in Amway are things you can use every day if you choose to, so the only way you would lose a rediculous amount of money and not make any is if you did not get off your butt, follow the system and work it!!
If you want to do go for it, at a pace that suits you. |
Former Quixtar Success US | 2:47pm on Thursday, May 27th, 2010  | As a former Quixtar success, I've seen what happens behind the scenes. All I can tell you is stay away from these people.
Money is made not in overpriced products but in the 'system'. You have to scam a lot of people - starting with your friends - to make it.
Even when you reach a certain level of success, as I have, you find out that your upline has full control of your business.
It's all very slick and packaged well to deceive people, don't fall for it. Buy products if you want to (some of them are ok), but stay clear of anything to do with 'showing the plan', 'sponsoring' or otherwise being involved in the system.
Find another business you can actually control. It may not have the glitter of Quixtar, but you stand a much better chance of making real money.
Good luck!
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Joe Texas | 1:42pm on Tuesday, May 25th, 2010 | It's not even a hair shy. It is pathetic. Most IBO's never make a net profit. Those who do are so few and far between that you can probably find a needle in a haystack easier than finding a profitable IBO. |
Nobody Midwest | 8:03pm on Saturday, May 22nd, 2010  | I just got cornered by a quixtar rep, and thought I'd do some checking, which led me here. I think the whole thing is one hair shy of completely pathetic. |
Joe Pittsburgh | 10:36pm on Thursday, May 6th, 2010  | Cullen, I thank you so much for your response to this post. Keep spreading the words. Cullen, you are wrong about one thing. Quixstar is a pyramid scheme. Anytime you have pyramid in a get-rich-quick scheme, it is illegal. Quixstar is only legal in that all the IBOs ask you to buy their dvds, cds, audio and video cassettes, books, rally tickets, etc, etc. All these things add up at the end in millions of dollar. If and when a government questions these Quixstar people, they can always tell them that they made the Quixstar money buy selling their "Marketing Products." In this aspect, it is legal but not legal at all. All IBOs are told to lie to their potential downlines to get them to signup.
Thank God you bailed out before you lost everything. |
cullen ny | 11:49am on Wednesday, May 5th, 2010  | to add onto it...i was just a broke college kid trying to make some extra $$ to hang out with friends and take out my gf. in the end, I lost $140 and realized that working at mcdonalds/walmart/starbucks would've paid better. i felt so bad for all the kids that went to the free meeting i attended...all of them were in the same boat, trying to make extra bucks, not realizing the guy giving the speech was making their money, but he had to keep a regular day job bc quixtar couldn't pay his rent ;P |
cullen somewhere, ny | 4:10pm on Tuesday, May 4th, 2010  | Lost $140 in 1 week. Thank god I bailed ship early. Obviously a pyramid scheme but somehow legal (just unethical). Save your friends by bailing them out from this. You not only sell out-of-season clothing, weird health vitamins and bars, XS energy drinks, but your integrity as well.
Don't get tricked into this program. You're either looking at a downward spiral or you better have a lot of friends to sell or recruit. Plus, you'll have to work hard to sell them out too. |
Joe Pittsburgh | 9:41am on Thursday, April 29th, 2010  | I have an idea for Karen and everyone who left a message on Quixstar here. I guess the real reason for joining this scam is to eventually become rich and financially stable. Then, why don't you keep your hard earned money and implement my idea and you will still be ahead and become rich.
Take a penny and everyday double that penny all the way for next 30 days. For instance, 1 penny first day, 2 pennies second day, 4 pennies third day, 8 pennies fourth day, 16 pennies fifth day and so on. I know what you are all wondering, "What!!! pennies???" Yep, pennies and do the math and tell me how much you will have at the 30th day.
My calculation comes out to be:
Day 1 $.01
Day 2 $.02
Day 3 $.04
Day 4 $.08
Day 5 $.16
Day 6 $.32
Day 7 $.64
Day 8 $1.28
Day 9 $2.56
Day 10 $5.12
Day 11 $10.24
Day 12 $20.48
Day 13 $40.96
Day 14 $81.92
Day 15 $163.84
Day 16 $327.68
Day 17 $655.36
Day 18 $1,310.72
Day 19 $2,621.44
Day 20 $5,242.88
Day 21 $10,485.76
Day 22 $20,971.52
Day 23 $41,943.04
Day 24 $83,886.08
Day 25 $167,772.16
Day 26 $335,544.32
Day 27 $671,088.64
Day 28 $1,342,177.28
Day 29 $2,684,354.56
Day 30 $5,368,709.12
Day 31 $10,737,418.24
if this doesn't work out for you, go out and buy yourself a lottery tickets for couple of bucks. You never know you could be the next jackpot winner of $200.00 million dollar. :) |
Joe Pittsburgh | 9:11am on Thursday, April 29th, 2010  | Karen, how long did you say you've been with Quixstar? little over a week? Then, how can you judge a book buy its cover. What do sales people do before you actually sign on a paper or write them the check or give them your money? Yea, they sing and dance to make you feel happy. So, that you will finally fall in their trap. This is what these Quixstar people are doing. Anytime you are in their meetings or in a rallies with other Quixstar members you will never hear or see negativity. That's because every member is told to show positive attitude at all cost like these people on after hour infomercials - sham-wow (WOW - LOL). That is what makes your product sell not the product itself.
Where did you find out that Quixstar is legalized? Could you please give me the details - address or phone number? So, I can find out. Karen, you have not been with Quixstar long enough to know that you are in for a long ride. I was with these people for over 6 to 8 months and lost over 500 to 700 dollars just on rally tickets, audio cassettes, books, video cassettes and I made zero dollar. I followed everything as I was instructed by my up-line to the teeth and had over 9 people under me with those 8 months. Meanwhile, I saw no payment coming in. I spent ton of money on Quixstar website alone that doesn't include the other $500 to $700. You will be asked to pay for rallies, books, audio and video cassettes and eventually they will trick you into getting their $50/month CANNED website on their server, 1-800 phone number communiKate and etc...
They always tell you to save and pitch pennies, but when its time for you to pay up on something they will ask $70.00 or $100.00 or $50 because maybe diamond Joe smith or ruby mark smith is coming to town to give speech or he is selling his popular dvd or cd or books. So, (LOL) payup. That's what they will say. From day one they will dog you down everyday - phone calls after phone calls asking you to go here or come to this meeting. And you will always find them in a lively mood (so to speak). This is how they build up your trust for their business. Once they know you completely trust them and they act like they are your bestest friend in the world, they got you trapped. They know it too and they know you will not hesitate to hand out your money left and right.
Karen, keep a running total on the money you will be paying towards quixstar and watch it go up and your quixstar payment standing still.
I lost over $5000.00 in total and my brother lost over $20,000 on Amway. We both made zero dollar. Go figure that one out, Karen. |
Joe Texas | 1:14pm on Tuesday, April 27th, 2010 | Hi Karen, can I ask what made you attracted to the Amway opportunity? |
KAREN Location unknown | 4:13pm on Monday, April 26th, 2010 | IL ADMIT SOME OF THE PRODUCTS ARE OVERPRICED BUT SOME OF THEM ARE CHEAP AND THEIR STILL GOOD..IVE TRIED MANY PRODUCTS AND SOME OF THEM ARE AMAZING AND THEIR ENERGY DRINKS ARE SOO TASTY |
KAREN CHICAGO | 4:02pm on Monday, April 26th, 2010  | 1st of all.. i dont think its a scam...its obviously LEGALIZED therefore it cant be a scam..YES im sure buying the products and services give the top sponsors more and more money..and sometimes ya think that your just doing this to make the other person rich?..but come on?...we all want financial stability right?..its kinda scary reading these comments cause i just signed up a week ago cause i was told of the opportunities and positives by a family member and yes i am very excited to start my business... i think that theeres many negative people in this world who want fast cash but again..it takes time to make money and hard work..i meen 165 dollars to start really isnt alot of money.. in order to have a successful business you have to spend money so you can buy products to show your customers..i dont think they aRE trying to "SCAM" you.. i think if you have a mind of your own and do well i dont think its possible to get scammed...dont buy everything or things ya dont need..just buy what u need for your business and track your earnings and your spending...obviously if your dumb enough to NOT KEEP TRACK of what your spending then ya of course u will be scammed...theres no such thing as a scam...it all depends on if your smart in the business. |
Joe, Tx Texas you | 4:01pm on Wednesday, April 14th, 2010  | if you have to pay to make money, then it is a SCAM. |
Joe Texas | 4:11pm on Tuesday, April 13th, 2010  | Opps, Sorry joe, my friend. I forgot to read the posting's rule. However, we both agree Quixstar and Amway is a scam. They just figured out a way to hide themselves from the government by making this business look legit.
I like how you put it - just because it has been around for a long time doesn't make it legit as supposed to Italian mafias. :) |
Joe Texas | 1:23pm on Tuesday, April 13th, 2010 | Amway spouse, this blog doesn't allow posting of links, but here's where you can get the info.
Google search:
Dateline 2004 Quixtar Amquix Info
Everything you need to know will be there. |
happy pittsburgh | 11:30am on Tuesday, April 13th, 2010  | Amway spouse from TX. If he doesn't stop while he is ahead, he is going to loose everything and more. Amway and Quixstar is nothing but a scam. The only way these guys make money is mainly by pulling in downline IBOs and telling them to buy CDs/audio cassettes, rally tickets and others. Plus, all IBOs are told to make their daily purchases only on Amway or Quixstar website. In almost, every meetings I went to they always had a young couple or just couple who stands up and claims that they are starting to receive monthly payment from Quixstar in just 2 months or sooner. This, I think, is a big lie and a setup. According to NBC dateline, Quixstar only made little over $1,400 for that year not millions of dollar as IBOs claim.
If you are looking for documentary on Quixstar, search youtube.com for NBC Dateline for Quixstar. They did a story on this get-rich-quick scheme.
I quit Quixstar after 8 months as soon as I realized after having spend little over $500.00 and made $0.00 from Quixstar that this whole thing is nothing but a scam. I did exactly as I was instructed by my upline to the teeth and had 10 people under me in 5 months but you should only need about 5 downline to start receiving monthly payment, which I never saw.
If anyone wants to have a better change of getting rich quick, put your money into lottery games - powerball, cash 5, etc. At least with lottery, you spend little and your payoff could be huge.
Quixstar is a scam and they figured out how to beat the system to be legal. However, it is a pyramid scheme, which is illegal. According to the US government, a business is legal if you have 2 way exchange when it comes to a transactions not just collect money for the sake of spreading it to the downline from upline. That's why they always tell you to buy CDs, cassettes, rally tickets and others. This way they can always claim to the government that these monies are made fair and square.
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Amway Spouse TX | 4:33pm on Monday, April 12th, 2010  | My husband has been in Quixtar since 2004 and has lost thousands of dollars using the 'system' and attending the numerous conferences they hold all year,year after year .He is completely sold on the business..and truly believes that amway is 'the most ethical business in the world for offering an opportunity of financial independence to the little fish out there'! I have heard that 'the system' is primarily designed to promote and reproduce itself since that is how uplines above a certain level make their money. I am now in search for documentary evidence that BWW emeralds and above make most of their income by taking a huge cut on CDS/Books/conference sales. If anyone has any documentation evidencing this(preferably in the BWW letterhead),please share.. |
Anonymous Location unknown | 4:21pm on Wednesday, April 7th, 2010  | I was an IBO for Quixstar. I didn't like it one bit. I would be lying if I said I made enough to quit my daytime job or pay my bills from Quixstar within 2 months or even 3 months. From day one, I was brainwashed to buy this and that - go here and there - listen to him or her, etc, etc, etc. I kept spending money on cassettes after cassettes, books after books and brochure after brochures of these so called diamonds and ruby IBOs speeches and writings. Mind you I am not and wasn't rich then. In fact, I was barely getting by with $30,000 salary day time job. I had a lots of bills to pay. So, when I accidentally made the initial contact with this Indian guy, who was obviously dressed in a well-to-do manner, he pulled me into this Quixstar. In reality, he was as broke as I was. One of the things that I was strongly told to do was to get a website from their webhoster (about $50/month), get communikate 1800 number service (about $35/month). In fact, for one of their event in New Jersey, I was coaxed by one of the IBOs above me to come on this paid-trip ($70.00). As you can see, the money going out of my pocket was getting bigger and bigger. All this while, I made zero money or no money at all. One of the things I noticed then was I would get calls after calls day and night everyday from IBOs, who I never met, asking me to pay for this or signup to go on a paid-trip to be at this Diamond's rally. When I think about it now, I feel so stupid and dumb for not realizing soon that Quixstar and Amway are Scam.
My brother onetime lost over $20,000 on AMWAY. He was supposed to go door to door selling these shower-heads, which were supposed to be environmentally green. Let me tell you something, he lost everything. They wouldn't give his money back and no one bought these shower heads even though he went door to door begging and crying. According to my brother, all this happened when he went to rally in Atlanta back when Amway was in operation. What's worse was that that $20,000 was not my brother's but family and friends.
Quixstar and Amway are scams. DON'T FALL FOR IT.
THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS FREE LUNCH. |
Joe Texas | 8:23pm on Thursday, March 18th, 2010 | Hi Brad, thanks for your corrections. But I was simply making a point. Anthony said Amway was legit because they were around a long time. So I pointed out that the mafia's been around a long time so they must be legit too. It has nothing to do with being legal or illegal. Prostitution has also been around a long time and it is legal and illegal, depending on where you are.
Based on the miserable rate of new diamonds, I would that that gor or bad upline = failure. The system doesn't work and Amway has too much baggage for people to overcome. Most new diamonds are from foreign countries where people are not as familiar with Amway.
You are right. Amway is not get rich quick. For most, Amway is not get rich at all. Most IBOs on the system never make enough to pay their voicemail bill. |
Brad Mississippi | 9:20pm on Wednesday, March 17th, 2010  | Joe,
Let me correct a few things for you. Yes crime has been around for longer than AMWAY. Yes you are very correct on that. However, crime is illegal. It has been for sometime. AMWAY is not. If you don't believe me. Go sale some drugs or go sale some vitamins from AMWAY and see which one you got to jail for doing.
On another note. Yes someone will tell you that you have a chance on making money. Would you take a job from a company that says that might pay you one day? I'll assume that is a no.
For those who are interest in AMWAY. Question your upline. Question the hell out of them. Your upline will determine your chances on making it. Question your upline's upline. Bad upline=bad results. If you don't like the upline or their answers. Don't join.As far as the materials(which is not AMWAY). That is totally a personal decision. There are some good with them. The voicemail, I use for my personal business but with education wing (again which is not AMWAY)...not much use until you grow. That is my personal thoughts on that.
As for whom I am. I am a ex-IBO for 2 years. I was in the business for 3 years. I left AMWAY on my on terms because I didn't have the time to give to the business. AMWAY is not get rich quick. If you do get rich quick doing it. Call me...I will be your downline. I won't be expecting anyone call anytime soon. |
Johnny Seattle | 1:15am on Friday, March 12th, 2010  | I shop at Amazon. It's not a whacked out cult. |
Pj Northern VA | 2:39pm on Monday, March 1st, 2010  | Ive been recruited several times by IBO and I can't help but to notice the desperation in the individual faces for me to fall for this scam. There's money to be made with this program...but you have to learn how to BS. Recruit as many people as possible and just tell them a bunch of BS. Only people that bank are folks at the top. |
Jose CA | 2:40pm on Saturday, February 27th, 2010 | All I have to say is that it works. My parents have been doing it now for about 3 years and they make a little bit more than 80,000 a year. My mom and dad burly know how to write and read and make as much or more than a teacher. My parents are from Mexico. |
Paco San Diego, CA | 11:48am on Monday, February 22nd, 2010  | Do not waste your time or life with this! I got out early and it was the best move I have ever made. They have pointless seminars and don't initially tell you what the so called "BUSINESS" is about. YOU WILL LOSE A LOT MORE than you will ever make! It is a legal scam! They just need dummies to sign up and join the tragedy train! |
Joe Texas | 5:31pm on Friday, February 19th, 2010  | Hi Anthony,
Let me address some of your points. Amway must be legit because it's been around for 50 years. Do we still have organized crime in America? Do we have drug dealers? Yes, but they must be legit because they've been around longer than Amway?
Amway is not get rich quick. Yes, but obviously someone gave you the idea that you would get rich somehow, or you would not be interested right?
An IBO making more than the one who referred him means nothing. You will never make more than one of the big old time diamonds who run the tools systems.
How do you "help" people become successful? By selling them voicemail and other materials that cost more than most of them will ever earn from Amway? By telling them they "need" to attend functions where they will be told to ignore facts if you have a dream, or that they should never quit? How does this help anyone?
Having someone control your life and your income? That would be called your upline. LOL
Good luck to you Anthony. Have you made a net profit from this wonderful opportunity or did you suffer a loss after paying for voicemail, standing order, book of the month, open meetings and seminars? I bet you have a net loss. |
Anthony Ricci Hawthorne, NJ | 2:54pm on Thursday, February 18th, 2010 | My name is Anthony Ricci and I am an Amway Global IBO. I consider myself married to the business. I saw the marketing plan six months ago and I have built a great business. I am not a salesman nor am I someone who would even consider hurting other people.
What attracted me to Amway was that I didn't feel pressured to do anything. The site Quixtar has over 2 million products including Partner Stores and Services. I made choices and based upon those choices, I am where I am now. I met people who I connected with in the business. I wish I would have started this 10 years ago. Does this business require work in the very beginning? Yes. This goes for anything. You wouldn't stop your car in the middle of a car wash and say it's done? Would you? This is not fast money. It doesn't work like that. This business has nothing and I mean nothing to do with scamming anyone. Anyone who feels that way is more than welcome to feel that and up to six months, one can turn in their kit and get their refund. It's a shame that someone would call this business a scheme. Don't you think if something is around 50 years, it would be credible? What will it take for people to realize this? I understand that this business is not for everybody. Amway should not be even mentioned when one is talking about pyramid schemes or illegal activities. Our business plan might look like a pyramid when it is drawn out but that is a visual association that one could be making. The fact is one can make more than the person who referred that person. No one is a boss of anyone. Yes, we have sponsorship and mentorship but do you get that at your job? Does your boss want you to make more than he or she? Of course not. We want to help others to be successful FIRST. When did that become illegal?
I would highly suggest that if you one is going to judge our business, try it for 90 days and see if it's for you. Until then, enjoy your job and having someone control your life, your income, your lifestyle, how many kids you have, how many cars you have, when to take vacation, when to come back, what time you get up in the morning, what time you go to bed, what you can own and what you can't. That sounds like a good deal. Right? |
Anonymous Location unknown | 1:46pm on Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010 | Yes there are limits to how you can advertise with Quixtar. I have 3 websites that are approved by Quixtar, they are actually quixtar sites. I then with an approved business card placed them on them on the card. Then I hand the cards out and that has a small advertising campaign taken care of, |
Beth Rockford Illinois | 2:08pm on Saturday, October 24th, 2009  | Amway Quixtar people are not positive. They complain about their day jobs and their IBO uplines begin by trying to convince people to start hating their jobs and their lives. The people I met were stressed and desperate. The people they conned were upset and angry. My ex boyfriend is well educated and works hard and buys over $500 a month and makes less income than $10 a month after three years of trying and going to every national and local convention and hotel and buying every CD and plan. Almost no one wins in Amway. My other friends that did make money ended up taken to court by the Amway lawyers for fraud charges. |
Lorwood NY | 1:28pm on Wednesday, October 21st, 2009  | Answer me this boy blunder,
Will Quixtar/Amway/BWW let you sell there products and or memberships through your own website? The answer is no.
Unless you are an idiot thats all you need to know about this scam |
Joe Texas | 7:02pm on Monday, October 5th, 2009  | Brian's story is typical of many IBO's. Full of contradictory statements. Brian says he is not a platinum and then in the next sentence he says he is a platinum. I bet Brian is new in the business, hasn't sponsored anyone but is fired up owning his own business. I wonder if Brian even makes the average income of $115 a month that Amway claims. |
brian ny | 7:58pm on Saturday, October 3rd, 2009  | funny how people mention scam the only scam in life is working a job and working the rest of your life until your 72. If it were a scam the company wouldn't have made 8.2 billion by the way the owner of this business is worth 4.2 billion in forbes magazine and owns the orlando magic. I am not going to brag and how great this business is because for me it has worked although i have not made it past a platinum and not rich from it but it helps pay some bills and save a few dollars as well. I have been in this business for 2 years and 4 months now finally going platinum 2 months ago. Every business has ups and downs positives and negatives but for most people they truly think negative. They have no clue about this business other then reading negative blogs which is a shame. People should see what its about first and if they want to judge trying judging your job which by the way there are 10.2 million people out of work worldwide ive been told. The products are outstanding and really don't care how much if its good but hey to each his own in whatever they do with their life and good luck in your job. You are in what is called a prisoner of work and believing by getting a paycheck each week lol you will actually get somewhere and that somewhere is for sure nowhere just being comfortable. I actually to be honest love real estate which is my big source of income and this being second. The amway global business works but to be honest very few succeed but i choose not to be the one that doesn't succeed and have made it to the first level and if thats the only place i go in this business i already won. |
David Camp North Carolina | 2:35pm on Wednesday, September 30th, 2009  | When I was in the Military a few of the guys in my unit got sucked into "the business" a.k.a AMWAY. There was an immediate change in there attitudes and behavior. First, they would come in to work tired as hell running on no sleep from all night pep talks, dinners, meetings, etc. They started recruiting immediately and if you said no you were blown off even in a military capacity. It appeared to me that the only people that they had any respect for were the "up lines" or "diamond" level scammers. I watched good men with promising careers throw it all away on a whim and a line of BS from some cheap suit wearing silver tongued loser. My advice is when you here "Individual business owner" ask for a copy of there "State issued tax ID or State Issued Business License". My guess is they won't be able to produce such a thing. Your not a legitimate business owner unless you have a "brick and mortar" storefront, have business hours, collect sales tax and pay taxes. Any peckerhead can attend a meeting, pay a few hundred bucks, get scammed and call himself a business owner. Wake up and get a real job and stop the get rich quick crap. |
ashley VA | 10:26pm on Monday, September 28th, 2009  | I was recently recruited to Amway/LTD and actually just went to a LTD Summit function. Without going into a rant, let me just say these people are crazy. It is just like a cult. There is even this huge church service at the end where you are "saved" by a former car wash employee turned millionaire. They may be nice people, but they are brainwashed.
Plenty of people have discussed the products and whether or not you can make money, so I wont say much about that either except making this point: Has anyone that believes in this sat and thought about the ratios of people that make money to those who dont? For example, this year they celebrated the 14th couple to go "diamond". 14 couples, thats all, from the about 50,000 people or more they said that are involved in this business. So what chance do you really think you have of achieving that? If its such a good plan and easy if you are a hard worker, how come more people arent diamonds?
Yes some people can make some money, but if you want to you must do this: alienate all of your friends and family by harassing them to join or at least buy your products (my friends that got called by my sponsor said no but he kept calling and pissing them off- he said you have to keep calling because they may change their mind), have a cell phone glued to your ear, be a bookeeper so you dont get audited by the IRS, pay $5 to go to the same meeting every week, pay lots of money to go to brainwashing functions, give up all of your friends and family that arent in, go all over to meet with people to try to steal their friends numbers from their facebook, work your day job then spend every other free minute at night dealing with your business, stop listening to music and watching tv and replace it with their books and cds, give up your outside activities (baseball team, hobbies, clubs, etc), basically eat sleep and breathe LTD. If that sounds like fun, good luck. |
marcus ohio | 3:10pm on Thursday, September 17th, 2009  | I was in for a year. My best friend and i had been tricked into doing this business,the money sounded great. the plan is exaggerated and the amount of time you would have to spend. my best friend sponsored me, and i thought his sponsor was awesome. and everyone was so nice- or so they seemed.
the first time i went to function, i was blown away. all the great testimonials, the sharply dressed peers, the patriotic themes, spiritual themes, but it was all to keep you coming back and spending money. there would be 10,000 people in attendance usually, most of them 18-25 years old. yet you cant talk to them unless a common upline was around- you definitely couldn't date a girl in a different line of sponsorship- they would kick you out. they brainwash you by sleep depriving you, your usually hungry, and by exposing you to every emotion. fridays were pump up days,even some anger at how hard people on stage had it before the opportunity. saturdays were sorrowful days- larry would talk about how proud his father was of him before he died, then he would make jokes until you passed out. the sunday mornign was absolutely sinister, he would preach the gospel and then invite people to come up to be saved. this sounds good at first, but it was to remove any doubts- connect ministry with LTD.
every night at function they would have these night owls. Night owls were when the downline gathered around a common upline, who spoke about nothing really. He would talk about his dreams, and told stories to make himself look really cool and bold. there was no teaching, just a re emphasis on the platinum or above being some sort of god. and if you tried to be as funny or cool as your upline, you were looked down upon.
I still went to school, but i devoted myself to LTD. i spent all my money(and there wasnt that much) on books, gas to show the plan, functions(hotels, gas, $120 dollar ticket ended up beign $250 on average). nothing worked, people didnt get in. i was respected among my peers, i have a black belt in tkd, played football but only one guy got in during that year- LTD makes you feel like you should take it personally- that people are insulting you by saying no to the plan. they also say that your not changing your thought process, not reading enough books, not having enough faith in God. thats right- they equate faith to success in the business. my parents suffered too, as i would lie how i needed money for rent- that i didnt make as much money as i actually did at my job. it hurt them, and i feel terrible and depressed to this day.
they use innuendo to tell you what to do, to quit a job if it interferes with function, get a cheap car, live in a crappy apartment, get a easy low paying job, and get into buying tools each month. it was all to keep your available income high in order that you would buy products and tools consistently. they also begin to take control of everything you do- how you spend money, who you hang out with( if anyone outside the team), how you shouldnt talk to FAMILY and friends who viewed the business negatively. they even seemed to wish hardship on people who rejected the business plan.
the reason i stayed in was because i am a sinner who wanted to win the lottery- even if it meant others had to suffer for me to be rich, but they would always say that its not the business' fault people are poor- its their jobs. but even with that knowledge the Christian emphasis seemed so real that maybe God did use it for some sort of good purpose. On sunday morning so many people went up to get saved- so i thought this is my purpose. what triggered the beginning of the end was what My platinum nate hahn said- and i quote-
"we dont tell people about sunday morning service at function- its our big guns." when he said that, it was the beginning of the end.
Me and my best friend just decided to leave at the end of the school year. Thank God(the real one- not the Jesus they talk about in LTD) we got out. If it wasnt for divine intervention i woudl still be in wisconsin trying to make it work- i was completely brainwashed. i was only out for a couple days when i realized how bad this last year was- the worst of my life bar none. it was killing us. Now im going to school, eating real food instead of the idiotic products, not wasting my time at stupid functions or rallies, and planning on rubbing real success in LTD's face one day.
And to all the people who defend amway as if your lives depend on it because they think its the only way or that God blesses this business- that its a ministry. How dare Larry Winters and the "leaders" but God in a box. Its as if they confine God to one business, one that makes most of its money dishonestly with tools.
for those of you who have been hurt by amway, this business must be destroyed- it needs to end. |
Prey of Quixtar California | 7:11am on Tuesday, September 15th, 2009  | I was trapped in this business. And my mentor Diamond xyz(this is how these psychos call each other) took me to training in Walmart where he was praising unnecessarily to the person whom neither of us know. Asking him where he works, from where he has come, and his cell phone number. I found this very stupid and offensive, It wasnt a good move to ask someone the personal details in first meet. Some were polite while some very aggressive or say arrogant, because how can one tolerate such thing. That day i decided to get out of that business. These people keep bothering you all the time. If you attend the meeting, you will see these people praising other IBO's in front of new comer. One fellow told me about the person who gave the seminar that, shaking hand with him more that shaking hand with Sachin tendulkar or shahrukh khan. These try to get you in the bottle. Beware. |
Joe Texas | 3:13pm on Wednesday, September 9th, 2009 | Abel, what you say makes sense but doesn't necessarily apply to Amway. Let me explain, Amway is a complicated business and comes with much baggage. There is too much to overcome for most people to succeed. It is far easier to make money selling on ebay or by getting a second job.
Also, Amway has perils because many Amway recruiters use deception when they want people to sign up. That misrepresentation results in more failures and adds to Amway's already soiled reputation. |
Abel Woodburn | 8:22pm on Tuesday, September 8th, 2009  | Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share with you a personal opinion. NO business works by itself, it is the people that makes it work. If people try to join any kind of business but don't understand the concept or the business structure, it'll never work!!! no matter how good a compensation plan or training system is. What might be good for you might not for everybody. Get to know what you are about to start, feel it, if it's good share or sell it or as you want to call it. Don't waste your time and energy criticizing. Success or failure is one's responsibility. |
jai asia | 3:34am on Saturday, September 5th, 2009 | Dear Friends,
How about internet marketing? will you call scam if you lose money to learn the trade - or about people teaching forex etc, where they said you must buy this goods or that CD etc, will you buy and get scam. Again members who applies the knowledge well and correctly, they succeed. Does that mean scam, likewise for Amway, if you have negative thoughts and unable to find a mentor, let me know, contact me. |
jai asia | 3:30am on Saturday, September 5th, 2009 | Dear Friends,
I heard most of negative info about Amway then positive information. Beside IBO, did any of you guys truly use the product and value the result?? Be Honest. Isn't it good or bad for the same price in the market! Simple item like toothpaste for instant, I use only colgate for several years and then tried Glister, i can feel the difference, of course colgate is cheap versus quality!! Like wise, amway offering a simple and straight forward business model for everyone. CD and Books are optional, Can anyone be honest tell me if you do your own Business, will you improve the knowledge in your business. How will you do it (by reading books / journal / CD or does it comes from haven!) Be honest.
Those who put up negative comments and saying lost money (some mentioned 100K), was it on the product you buy or simply partying for new IBO!! Please honest.
Appreciate if everyone can be honest and say the right thing, we can evaluate any business model. As long we are in the earth, we need money and all of us have to work hard to earn that money for survival. Think about it. Amway Global achieve some $8.3Billion sales in 2008 and paid 100% bonus cheque to all qualified IBO.
Be Honest and share the truth.. |
Anonymous Location unknown | 10:55pm on Friday, August 28th, 2009  | Joe from Texas,
I admire your vigilance in trying to convince people of what should be obvious...Quixtar is a massive scam...I just moved into an apartment complex and IMMEDIATELY the guy next door and his cohort tried to recruit me into this pyramid scheme/cult. If these people want to make money they should just get jobs...even if this thing does work for a small percentage of people, leaching off of others is pretty despicable. |
CB NY | 11:35am on Friday, August 28th, 2009 | The business concept makes sense but the problem with most people is that they believe what the "UP-line" says as gospel. Buying all the cd's & seminars of constant repetition makes no sense...just say no to your up-line when it comes to buying all the cd's.
The team building aspect is existent in all businesses regardless of industry so with any business you reap what you sow....
People need to stop blaming the "Amway company" for their failures...we fail because we choose to. If you see possible failure get out fast don't stay in there when your efforts are minimal...
it takes 20 years to become emerald for most IBO's same as any other job I takes the average person 20 years to make six figures. Every job takes effort remember that and lots of self belief. |
momma nj | 9:37pm on Thursday, August 27th, 2009  | how funny all this is! not for me, i dont understand how people complain about not spending time with their children when their in my house at 9pm on a wednesday with their kid trying to make me buy things i buy from the walmart down the block from me anyways at eh same price, go home and spend time with your kid and get a part time job and your guaranteed more money then you'll make here. not knocking you byob's or whatever you are, just rather make my money another way, its called education and experience and that's no bs. |
Joe Texas | 7:10pm on Monday, August 17th, 2009 | All I do is leave comments on this blog about why Amway and Quixtar is a bad idea and I make hundreds of thousands a year and I have a nice house and sports cars and all kinds of cool stuff. I don't even work anymore. |
Ana Iowa | 3:28pm on Monday, August 17th, 2009 | My uncles friend didn't think that Amway/Quixtar would work but he got in it to give it a try and now he's making thousands of dollars a month. Him and his wife don't work and they have a very big and very beautiful house. |
mrmaximum canada | 8:42pm on Friday, August 7th, 2009  | Since this is a review to the Amway Global business and people are posting their comments, I guess I will add some questions to any prospective IBO’s who are reading this at the moment. Amway Global touts itself as being exactly like McDonalds in the fact that when you buy a franchise, you buy McDonald’s PROVEN business system. For approx $200.00 dollars, you enroll into Amway’s proven business system and can expect the same level of success.
The issue that I have is that while both companies have received bad press in the past or even at this very moment, the nature of the messages the media gives couldn’t be anymore different. I know that there was a book written not just about McDonalds but the whole fast foot industry (Fast Food Nation) and even a movie by Morgan Spurlock about the dangers of how unhealthy McDonalds food was. I even came across a video game that anyone can download which parodies the running of the whole corporation.
What is the main crux of the bad press McDonalds receives? Due to the fact that not only does their business system work, but it works DAMN WELL. A mom and pop restaurant, which serves unhealthy food, won’t make the paper, but a global conglomerate, which does, is newsworthy. There are not forums or reviews of people asking whether the McDonalds system works. If a franchisee does lose money, anyone and their brother knows that they are the exception, not the rule.
In fact, let’s try another business, I heard of some people who happen to hate Wal-Mart? Why is that? When one of their gigantic stores invades a town, it muscles the smaller business owners out of business. Once again, a problem of the Wal-Mart business system working, not that it may work, or it will work if you work it. If anyone watches the family guy, you can also see that Wal-Mart was parodied there too. Like I said, for it’s overwhelming success.
Can the same be said of Amway? What kind of press does Amway receive? What sorts of stats are posted about it in terms of an IBO’s success? If the Amway system was as proven as McDonalds and even Wal-Mart’s, well, wouldn’t we all know about it? Would this review even exist? People here are arguing about whether the business even works or it doesn’t. There are huge amounts of people who have negative stories about their Amway experience. You will find websites, groups and associations who have issues with any business under the sun, no matter who they are and how well they do business. It is true that you cannot please everyone. My question to you however, is how many are there who have had negative experiences with their McDonalds Franchise? How many about Wal-Mart, AT&T, Verizon?
Get the picture now? You will find that there is an overwhelming amount of negative in regards to Amway as opposed to a very small amount of positive. No one can win at everything, not EVERY McDonalds Franchise makes money, but if 99% don’t, then there is obviously an issue with the business model, not the operators who have enrolled.
These are some things that may be good to consider before you enroll in the business. If the business was as good as it was stated, so quitting Amway was akin to quitting McDonalds, then I could agree that this group of people may be simply bitter and want to lash out. But, looking at Amway’s track record, if so many ‘losers’ are being produced, then there may be something wrong with the machine.
Consider it. |
Joe Texas | 6:34pm on Friday, August 7th, 2009  | Amhad said: Okay, so I have been reading and I see that the people who have failed assume that Quixtar/Amway is a scam. Negative. You have to be able to implement the steps they have in place.
Joe says: We do not assume. There are hard facts to base our conclusion on.
Amhad said: This is of course not for everyone. Only for people who would rather think like a business owner. IF you would rather think like a consumer, then you will fail. If you are thinking about the price of the products, you do not understand the concept
Joe says: Why do IBO's think like consumers? If you are a prosumer or buy from yourself, you have a consumer mentality. If you think about the price of products, that is smart, if you ignore these facts, you are foolish.
Amhad said: Lastly, Ive been seeing people saying, "how can you be a business owner but be part of a group?" That is the most ignorant question I have ever heard.
Joe says: It's more ignorant to call yourself an independent business owner when you are a commissioned salesperson. |
Ahmad New Jersey | 2:40pm on Friday, August 7th, 2009  | Okay, so I have been reading and I see that the people who have failed assume that Quixtar/Amway is a scam. Negative. You have to be able to implement the steps they have in place.
This is of course not for everyone. Only for people who would rather think like a business owner. IF you would rather think like a consumer, then you will fail. If you are thinking about the price of the products, you do not understand the concept.
Lastly, Ive been seeing people saying, "how can you be a business owner but be part of a group?" That is the most ignorant question I have ever heard...its like saying, how can you be a home owner but still be part of a Home Owners Association. Thats all the group is- a support system. The more you put in, the more you get. |
Johnny Gaddar CA | 10:48pm on Wednesday, August 5th, 2009  | Quixtar is awful and those f**king IBOs who try to get you in the business. I went to couple of meetings thinking that there is really something but very soon I realized it was a scam. One of the IBO's was calling me everyday, they are like leeches. Avoid them, at any cost. |
DonJuan Montana | 11:15pm on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009  | The system does work, but in return those people who get involved seem to sell out all their friends for meetings and other business BS that is just repeat after repeat. A waste of money for all the fees and way overpriced supplements. Also they pester the hell out of you once your in. Unless you love your cellphone glued to your head, dont get involved. |
Nidhika Jain Georgia | 2:18pm on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009  | It's just a waste of time. Me and my husband dedicated our lives for AMWAY for the paste 9 years. We did EVERYTHING. Lost over 100K in the paste nine years. The word UPLINE really irritates me these days. Everybody around you will fake it. All your upline is worried about is your PV and the TOOL FLOW, After all that's how they make money on you...Instead they can directly start collecting money from your "DIAMOND RELIEF FUND". They will rob you away, just be careful with these AMWAY people. |
Rose Mary Dayton North Carolina | 11:39am on Thursday, July 23rd, 2009  | I joined Quixtar in 1999, I went to most of the meetings and bought the tapes and books. While they were all very good I did not make any money. Why? I didn't put the work required into it. You have to really make tracks if you want to succeed but it is very possible. I don't kow if you have seen some of their achievement magazines. The last few that I saw (my friend s an amway distributor) was filled with a group of people that totally support each other. They were Asian. So the trick is to create your own family of people that will support you and others in your team.
As I said before it takes a lot of work to arrive at whatever goal you want to reach. I had a full time job at the time and some health issues but if you are willing to work hard it works. How do you think your uplines reached their status? So good luck if you want to join this organization. By the way my friend is still in it. |
Joe Iowa | 12:08am on Saturday, July 18th, 2009  | They make their money selling the seminars, books, tapes, all the pointless sh*t that shows you how to be a successful business person. In the end you get screwed. Quixtar abuses the trust that people have with people they know. You will buy a product and maybe it seems like it works, even if it does, you are still paying an outrageous price for it for the same benefits you could get from a cheap alternative at a walmart or target, but because people you know have a level of trust with you, they are willing to give in and buy into this program. The "CEO's" make the money selling them all the same junk they sold you, sure you might make some spare change off of that, but they are making bank off of it. |
Bill Helvey Ky | 5:38am on Friday, June 26th, 2009  | Amway Global is a manufacturing company.The Business building Gurus Selling Tools , Books, Dreamnights, Vacations,Seminars,Speaking engagements , and training will always sell the idea that anyone can get rich and change their life.My own experience is that those that earn income this way have already obtained their wealth and will continue to do what they do.The training is great for business sales go getters however most people are not that type. Good luck. |
Joe Texas | 12:30pm on Monday, June 22nd, 2009  | AJ, You did not read my response carefully.
Say I do 300 PV and my upline platinum does 100 PV. I did more work correct? Tell me why my upline platinum gets most of the bonus that I earned? I did the work but upline gets most of the money. How is that getting what I put into the business?
In fact, somewhere upline, there's a diamond or bigger pin who doesn't know who I am, who may not have done a single thing to help me who will get a bonus from my efforts. How is he getting that bonus when I did the work? |
AJ Florida | 6:48am on Monday, June 22nd, 2009  | Well Joe you completely mis-read my post. You do get out of the business what you put in to it. Just like ANY business, you do nothing, you get nothing. You apparently did not read the part about where I mentioned the different compensation plans. Some compensation plans don't make any sense to me either, but that does not make the business model bad. It seems to me that you just jumped into the first network marketing company that was presented to you, apparently Amway/Qixtar, you had a bad experience and now you feel all network marketing companies are bad. I did Amway back in the 80's myself and it didn't work out for me either. But I moved on. I've looked into several other companies including Mona Vie and Freedom Fuel before going with 4Life.
Now I know you didn't read the last part of my post at all. As I stated, with the exception of Warren Buffet, none of the men I mentioned made their money in Network Marketing. They are all multi-millionaire business men who support and/or agree with the network marketing business model and see it as a viable means for the "Average Joe" that doesn't have millions to invest to potentially attain financial freedom. In one of the previous posts, I thought it was one of yours, it stated to the effect of, "if network marketing is so good then how come nobody rich or famous supports it." Not the exact words, I can't find the post again but it was to that effect. I just provided a few supporters. |
RAJ TEXAS | 1:27am on Saturday, June 20th, 2009  | Jose, CaliforniA
F U MAN. BE TRUE AND TELL TRUE WHAT EXACTLY YOU DID TO GET SUCCESS. I KNOW YOU WORK HARD BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU LIE TO AND HOW MANY FAMILIES MEAL YOU DRINK ON XS EVERY DAY. you people r like bed bug which suck blood. how may people in your family do this business and how many people did really made money month after month. you guys are like parasite |
RAJ TEXAS | 12:33am on Saturday, June 20th, 2009  | I JOINED THIS BUSSINESS MAY BE 5 YEARS AGO. MY UPLINE THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL WHO EVER GET YOU IN THIS SPONSOR YOU, GAVE ME FREE CD'S BOOK FOR FREE TO LISTEN AND GIVE HIM BACK. EVENTUALLY THEY TOLD ME TO BUY BOOK AND CD AND EVERY THING. GOOOD THING ABOUT IT IS THEY GIVE YOU CD BOOK ON CREDIT AND EVENTUALLY THEY ADD INTEREST AT LEAST 100 PERCENT PLUS YOU ONLY TAKE FIVE CD BUT IN HIS ACCOUNT IT SAYS 9 SO THINK HOW THEY MAKE MONEY. AND GO TO HOTEL ON 59 AND BUFFALO EVERY TUESDAY YOU WILL FIND LOTS OF FUKER THERE TO ROB YOU. |
Bill Helvey Kentucky | 7:18pm on Thursday, June 18th, 2009  | Due to a massive dollar shift in value and a political climate unpredictable Quixtar is going to be the loser in the USA. The products are too expensive when people are shopping for bargains and their seller network is almost invisible.They are doing better in developing countries.As a Former IBO. It is not economically wise to invest the amount of time it takes and the commitment for a fleeting ideology. Only the loyal believers in the "system" will follow blindly.The fuel cost alone makes the profit margin negative. |
Joe Texas | 6:40pm on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009  | Tim From Washington said: I was involved with Amway and then Quixtar for 18 years and never made any money, but think it is a great program because your support team will teach you the secrets of success in anything. We started investing on our own using the ideas our team taught us and are now multi-million airs.
Joe From texas says: Yes, 18 years and you never made any money. Seems they teach you everything except how to be successful in Amway/Quixtar.
If you are now a millionaire (note the spelling), then you were probably stifled by the Amway/Quixtar teaching and now successful since you got out of Amway/Quixtar. |
Tim Washington DC | 3:51pm on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009  | I was involved with Amway and then Quixtar for 18 years and never made any money, but think it is a great program because your support team will teach you the secrets of success in anything. When we got out of Quixtar about two years ago, (we still buy the products from our sponsors)we started investing on our own using the ideas our team taught us and are now multi-million airs. We were in a town-house and now live in a 6000 square foot 3 year old house and have 4 rental properties and a 2400 square foot beach house. Also my family and marriage is the best. The people skills taught through the system is something you cant learn by opening a web site or advertising on Craig’s list.
So Try it and good luck. |
Mr. Kelly Oregon | 10:54am on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009  | It all depends on the person, you can make "Quixtar" / "Amway Global" the Way You Want Too .... You can BUILD it to Financial Blessing$ or You Can Think Up Every Excuse WHY It's Failing. It's can be as Simple as 1,2,3; or you can add a Lot of Unnecessary Items to Blog You Down. "Quixtar" is a Business of Your Desires!
Mr. Kelly - An I.B.O. |
Joe Texas | 7:19pm on Tuesday, June 16th, 2009  | AJ said: OK, Joe, I see you keep knocking the IBO's as having a low rate of success. This is probably true due to the fact that you will only get out of the business what you put into it
Joe says: Not true. In the Amway plan (6-4-2), all the IBOs do 100 points, but only one of them makes any money. So no, you do not necessarily get out of the business, what you put into it.
You listed some folks who supposedly succeeded in network marketing. I'm not sure what that proves as you have not verified where their earnings came from. Also, if I posted a list of lottery winners, does that mean the lottery is a good way to earn a living? |
AJ Florida | 11:31pm on Monday, June 15th, 2009  | To start I am not involved with Quixtar but I am with 4Life Research. 4Life is not listed here but I wanted to put my 2 cents towards the negative comments. Network Marketing works. Like any business you have to work at it the make it a success. If anybody is going off of just one bad experience all I can say is that you gave up too soon. If you go to a restaurant and have bad meal do you quit going out to eat? I don't think you do. You will find another restaurant, one you like and enjoy. There are hundreds of network marketing companies out there with different products, training and compensation plans. If you truly want to own your own home-based business then this is the way to go. Do your due dilligence and find the one that is right for you. Will you get rich overnight ? Definitely not. But if you do the work and follow the system you can in time become very wealthy.
OK, Joe, I see you keep knocking the IBO's as having a low rate of success. This is probably true due to the fact that you will only get out of the business what you put into it and several owners will, like yourself, barely try, barely achieve, become frustrated, quit and then justify there own incompetence by bad mouthing the business and blaming anything or anyone else but themselves for their failure. Now,as far as listing any names of the wealthy that support or believe in the Network Marketing model, I didn't see if anyone else gave you any but I'll give you a few.
1) Robert Kyosaki - multi-millionaire best selling author of "Rich Dad/ Poor Dad" and also the book "Business School for people who like helping people" which is about network marketing.
2) Paul Zane Pilzer - muliti-millionaire economist known for predicting economic trends. His current prediction, Network Marketing and the wellness revolution.
3) Donald Trump - I think everybody knows "The Donald" and I have an article that he did with Kyosaki where he mentions how he sees the network marketing business model as a viable means to gain financial independence.
4) And lastly, Warren Buffet - while the first 3 names I listed have not made money through network marketing, Buffet bought Pamper Chef, a network marketing company.
Now wow, I don't no about you but that is alot of wealth talking there. |
Joe Texas | 1:06pm on Monday, June 15th, 2009  | Hi Mattie, quixtar doesn't exist anymore. The business is called Amway Global. It's nice that the business changed your life, but you didn't mention whether you actually made any money. After all, a business exists to make money right? |
Mattie New York | 11:05am on Monday, June 15th, 2009 | Quixtar is not a scam. Quixtar changed many people lives including mines and the people in my business. So if the business did not work for you too bad maybe you were tooooo stupid to see the opportuniy. In fact I have international business because of the resources in Quixtar and BWW. Stop talking negative about a company that has changed my life for the BEST. |
JOHN North Hollywood | 3:06am on Monday, June 15th, 2009  | YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE FUNNY STUFF IS PUTTING QUIXTAR/AMWAY GLOBAL DOWN. IS JUST CRAZY PEOPLE AND NEGATIVE PEOPLE LIKE TO PUT EVERYTHING DOWN, JUST BECAUSE THEY DID NOT MADE A QUICK CASH I MEAN MOST NEGATIVE PEOPLE HERE WANT TO JOIN ANY BUSINESS BUT NOT TO PAY ANYTHING AND MAKE BILLION'S. BUT MOST NEGATIVE, AND CRAZY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANY BUSINESS EVEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD TO MAKE MONEY? AM I RIGHT OR NO? LET ME ASK ALL OF U DUMB ASS PEOPLE HERE. LETS JUST SAY U DO HAVE JOB PAY'S YOU $10.00 PLUS HRS. A DAY. SO NOW U ARE GOING TO TELL ME IF U HAVE AN JOB THAT MEANS U ARE NOT GOING TO WORK AT ALL AND YOUR SO CALL BOSS IS GOING TO PAY U BILLION'S A MONTH OR IS UR BOSS GOING TO PAY ALL OF YOUR BILLS. EVEN ALL OF U DUMB ASS PEOPLE HERE HAVE YOUR OWN BUSINESS. NOW U ARE GOING TO TELL ME U ARE NOT GOING TO WORK HARD AND MAKE CRAZY MONEY A MONTH. NOW THAT IS A SCAM. U KNOW WHAT TO ALL OF U NEGATIVE PEOPLE IN HERE. I AM AN IBO LESS THEN 2 MONTHS AND I DO LOVE AMWAY GLOBAL AND PLUS I AM MAKING GOOD MONEY AND I EVEN LOST 15 LBS. LESS THEN 2 WEEKS. NOW WHAT ARE U GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE PRODUCTS. OH YA 1 LAST THING TO ALL DUMB ASS TALKING SH*T ABOUT AMWAY IS ALL U NEED TO GET SOME HELP AND THERAPY. AND THIS WORLD IF U DON'T WORK HARD U WONT SURVIVE. QUIXTAR/AMWAY GLOBAL IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE ########11111111111111. GO ORLANDO MAGIC'S.... AND TO ALL IBO'S FROM AMWAY GLOBAL SEE YOU GUYS ON THE PAID PRIVET ISLAND BABY.YAAA |
jerry georgia | 12:09pm on Sunday, June 14th, 2009 | Like i said before working is what you have to do and quixtar is a legtimate business. My neighbor down the street is a diamond and he didnt become one without mentors and one person in his downline. He did this with plenty people and having meetings for his people. He may have done better if he had done taproot instead of goin 22 wide and people in each line. But he makes over $ 1,000,000 not including a wonderful size bonus. He also gets to go to Disney World for freee only having to opoay for the hotel and the whole park gets cleared for only IBO's that qualify for the trip. This is a wonderful business and people with any sense would join. But the average american does not have any sense and thats why foreigners like Indians come over here and rock the business. One thing about this business is that you have to change your mindset for it to work. Thank You and have a good quixtar day. |
Rakesh Ganeriwala Boulder, CO | 11:38pm on Saturday, June 13th, 2009  | Okay, I believe that Quixtar might be legal and a legitimate form of business, but it is a cult and makes false promises of wealth and fortune. Any person with common sense can tell you that businesses do not make money buy paying people. This means that while it is possible to make money with these multi-level marketing schemes, the chances are slim to none. For every 1 person that makes it in Quixtar, 99 will get screwed. Quixtar sells similar products that you can find at Walmart or Sam's Club, yet they sell them at a much higher price. Again, common sense will tell you this is bogus. Quixtar executives are nothing but liers and should be charged with slander for all the false claims they make. I went to a few Quixtar meetings where the speakers claimed this would be the wave of the future. Well, Quixtar has been around for a decade and Amway Global has been around for over half a century, even longer than Walmart and Sam's Club. Yet, which companies are doing better? Once again, use common sense. Idiots that fall for the Quixtar scheme can only hope that they can convince others to be as stupid as they were, in hopes that they might be able to make a small profit from all their wasted effort into this useless business. I've heard people tell me that they make huge salaries from Quixtar which will continue for the rest of their lives, yet they still attend numerous conferences, continue with their full time day jobs, and live no differently than the average American. Use common sense again. |
Joe Texas | 3:16pm on Friday, June 5th, 2009  | Hi J.O. from New York.
I don't spend a lot of time here. Maybe a few minutes in a week.
J.O. said "You are judging a business and efforts of tons of people based ONLY on your failure. "
Joe says: no, I am giving my opinion based on Amway's own numbers and from my personal experience and observations. Amway says the average income of an IBO is only $115 a month. And the number of people who reach platinum is less than 1% of all IBO's.
J.O. said: I didn't make to med school, that doesn't mean being a doctor is not good, it means it wasn't for me
Joe says: But medical school didn't recruit you and tell you that you could retire early and be rich. And they didn't tell you that buying books and attending class would guarantee your success.
J.O. says: perhaps that's why u didnt make it cuz u spend too much time on yourself and not helping other people as the business teach you.
Joe says: Nice tapespeak. How do IBO's "help" people? By selling them dreams that they cannot achieve? By recruiting them into a business where failure is almost guaranteed? By selling them cd's and functions that do not work? How do you help people? I help my community and church. What do IBO's do? Stalk people at malls and attend brain washing seminars? |
J.O New York | 12:50pm on Friday, June 5th, 2009 | This Joe guy really has a lot to say. uhn?? How much time u have to spend all this energy talking bad about something that didn't work for you! Certain things work for some people and not for others; don't make a foul of yourself. You are judging a business and efforts of tons of people based ONLY on your failure. I didn't make to med school, that doesn't mean being a doctor is not good, it means it wasn't for me. Instead of spend your time deceiving people, go find something that it's good for you, or perhaps that's why u didnt make it cuz u spend too much time on yourself and not helping other people as the business teach you. You are too concentrated on the money part and not in your growth as a human being which will eventually lead to a financial freedom. Im really glad it didn't work for you, so now that u found that out move on with your life and don't get too caught up on what quixtar is doing. If it's not good why do you keep yourself involved making comments about it? |
Joe Texas | 4:23pm on Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009  | Airing nice commercials and owning the Orlando Magic is great! It's great for the owners of Amway. It has nothing to do with the individual IBO. BOB, it's good that you have a successful friend in Amway. But did you see proof of success or are you taking your friend's word for it? If you were to add up your friend's downline income versus expenses, what would you find? A loss more than likely. |
B.O.B KANSAS | 1:12pm on Tuesday, May 26th, 2009  | I first heard about "Q" in college. Just like any other new marketing plan, I did not listen and kept on with life.I wanted to see someone's bank account, their check, some type of proof. Well, now I'm kicking myself in the butt. The system works! My upline, a personal friend, is doing it big, which is why I became an IBO. You have to know the right people, just like with anythings else in life. I'm currently trying to get into med school, a couple houndred dollars on the side will help. For the non-believers out there, if it's proof you are looking for, I suggested to all that you pay close attention to commercials on t.v.; oh and the NBA Orlando Magic, who are currently in the NBA playoffs, look closely at the name of the Arena they play in! :) Now if that's a scam, then we are all screwed! Thanks for taking your time to read my response.
p.s. B.O.B-business over bullsh*#. |
Tessa Canada | 6:33am on Tuesday, May 26th, 2009  | As someone who humored a good friend and tried the "Energy Drinks", I have not tasted something so awful in my entire life. And then I looked at the ingredients. Horrible. This stuff is as bad for you as guzzling a Big Gulp is, and it's advertised like it's healthy food. If the products were half decent I'm sure that Amway/Quixtar's would have at least one leg to stand on. |
jerry georgia | 7:21pm on Monday, May 25th, 2009  | Quixtar is NOT a scam i repeat quixtar is NOT a scam.If you want to make money you have to WORK for it. It's not just going to come easily. In this business you can make more than $1,000,000 a year. And whenn you become damond you get a diamond ring. This is a really great business that is fun and you get to go on lots of trips. If quixtar was really a scam major companies like Circuit City and Office Depot would not be a partner store. I do agree with Bill beccause he makes lots of sense. So if i were you i would join Quixtar like I did |
Sarah Trinidad | 12:29am on Sunday, May 24th, 2009  | to all the negative people out there, no one is asking you to this, if you think it sucks, thats your opinion, my upline made platinum in three months helped me to go plantinum in five, only because i slacked off some weeks, he is now two years in the business and qualifying for emerald, and would have done it sooner, but had a personal problem.....and he just turned twenty three.The cds the books i dont mind buying them, it beats buying papers and other junk literature..... |
Former LTD usa | 5:02pm on Friday, May 22nd, 2009  | I come from a background of business classes. Military. Computers. Success. I tried this out for 6 months cause they sold me at first. This is what I have to say about amway. Amway global is not that bad at all really as long as you want to sell products.
Now on LTD... That was the biggest waste of time in my life. First of all new IBO's That got into ltd thought they somehow knew more than people that wernt IBO's and that they were better than other people and they defend something they have really no idea about. Some of the LTD IBO's couldn't even tell me what an FAA point was. Now Amway is a good company but the teams need a lot of work. As of right now their pretty much BS, Their training materials like the A/QI/IS/F BS needs lots of work. You guys know the more LTD IBO's get in the more larry winters and group get richer off of the Materials. Can you imagine. LTD is a scam, I'm checking out BWW later so I can't comment on that one yet. Amway global is a good business in my eyes but not the teams. |
ashley texas | 12:24pm on Friday, May 22nd, 2009  | all i got to say is that if you take a shower than why not buy a product were you either way have to buy it somewhere else but difference is your geting paid for it .. quixtar is awesome .. not only in the knowledge of how to run a business things i never learned in college .. tell me were in a business you take those 4 basic years of college and make the money you need for a living in less than a year .. and tell me how come doctors decide to quixtar .. if they have all the money they need to survive .. easy cause one thing is having the money and one thing is enjoying it .. i see the money with my own eyes .. i'm practically wasting my time right now saying this .. but before you speak anything negative about it .. remember if you haven't even tried it than don't even start saying by what you hear cause what you hear till this day i bet hasn't paid your bills and for those that have been in it .. than honey you didn't try hard enough.. quixtar doesn't work .. you make it work .. the business is there and its given to you but its up to you how you manage your own business .. so if you take a shower everyday than you should make money out of yourself |
Joe Texas | 12:42pm on Monday, May 18th, 2009  | Mel-dog, I am calling BS on your story. First of all, there is no Quixtar anymore. The company changed it's name officially to Amway Global. Secondly, bonuses are paid out after the month is over if you met the PV requirements. Your story doesn't add up, but that seems to be very common among IBO's. I wonder why that is? |
Mel-dog Richmond Va | 10:50pm on Friday, May 15th, 2009  | I read so much about Quixtar/Amway everything I read is not good. Im being recruited to join right now the guy that is recruiting me is saying that his group is different. Im in a business called NMC and before I joined I googled them and there was not one negative remark as a matter of fact I joined last we and I have made 700 dollars already. The guy thats recruiting me for Quixtar says I will make more has anybody honestly made more than 700 in 2 weeks by just selling product in Quixtar?????? |
Joe Texas | 12:03pm on Wednesday, May 13th, 2009  | Res, how can you be an independent business owner be a part of a team? That's a bunch of hogwash.
And comparing your Amway tools to college is simply ridiculous. You state that you do not sponsor or take standing order as it is optional then you go onto say you are sponsoring and helping people. Can't you get your story right? Also, people go to college to learn. Amway is a business. Yes, some training is helpful, but how much training do you need to buy and sell products, and share the idea with others?
Colleges do not recruit you by saying you will retire early and wealthy. Amway does and for most people it is not true. Colleges also graduate about half or more of their students. Less than 1% of IBO's ever reach platinum. |
Res DMV | 10:56pm on Tuesday, May 12th, 2009  | You are all wrong. The problem is you need to get on a business team and be mentored by the right people. I was in the business and quit because I was not on the right team. Now, I am thriving. I have the freedom to choose my team. I do not recruit and I do not do standing order unless I have the money to because it is NOT a requirement but an option. I don't understand why you people complain about ignorant things. When you go to College, you have to pay for training. The standing order and functions are your "training". Clearly you didn't get it. And yes, you do have to do the work. You can not say that you did everything someone else told you to do and it just didn't work. Okay, then as a business person step back and refocus. Work at a different angle. I am sponsoring business owners and have helped them make money right away. In addition, I did like 40 facials last week alone. When you want to go Diamond you don't complain about business meetings, and you certainly don't sit around running your mouth on the internet for free. Get paid. Go Diamond or stay at home. |
Joe Texas | 6:14pm on Monday, May 11th, 2009  | Max, it's nice that you can earn $100 a month while in college. If you work 2 hours a night as you say, which may be 10 hours per week, you are earning $2.50 per hour. Wouldn't you be better off getting a job that pays $10 a hour? Also, you did not mention if you have standing order or attend functions, but if you do, then you are likely netting a loss at the end of the month when these things are factored in. For many who "fail" in this business, it is not for lack of effort, but too much baggage associated with the name "Amway" that is the bigger problem. |
Max New York | 3:56pm on Sunday, May 10th, 2009 | I am an IBO. My friend recruited me and the concept makes sense. Obviously not everyone is ambitious as others. No one said quit your job either. I am a college student and if you just manage to make a simple $100 extra why is that so bad. I think its crazy that everyone thinks it such a scam. Of course no one within the company would say negative things about it. I personally like it but you would never hear anyone from any other company that there own products aren't good or to go buy from somewhere else. Just keep your jobs, there isn't anything wrong with making a little extra cash on the side. No one said go for an 80K salary through this. It's just some motivation to help you get started. I'm perfectly fine where I am and as a college student I don't mind the extra cash. Two hours a night for this would not hurt, but you don't have to give up on life just because you want so much money. You indeed, make it how you want, if you don't have the ambition or time to do the work don't demean it. Look into it really if anything, my friend makes 4K/month and he does what he is told simple as that, and he didn't lose any friends, tears, or blood lol AND hes still in college doing his thing along side me. People just take it easy, take it to the mind not to the heart, its a simple concept that tends to work. RELAX |
Big D Earth | 2:33pm on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009  | I love how people like Joe and others who know what a sham quixtar is back up their claims with intelligent posts, factual information, and personal experiences where the people for quixtar just make stock blanket statements like "it is a great company, you just need to work hard" my favorite was the guy who called someone a dream stealer WTF? |
John Ga | 11:48am on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009  | I for one have read all the comments on this page now here is my opinion on quixtar. I think it is the biggest scam. I was an IBO and did everything my upline advised me to do EVERYTHING. I attended functions, bought cd's, sponsored people, and ordered product to the tune of 300 pv every month but my pin level was way above that.I did not expect something for nothing I am a business owner and have a very successful business outside of quixtar so I know what it takes to make a business profit. Well I for one did not even come close to the glory and riches that I heard about. It is funny to me that people will defend quixtar but are probably not making anything to speak of. That is why if I ask you defenders what you made last year you would tell me it was none of my business or if you told me what you made you would not tell me what you spent.Come on people wake up and smell the coffee your big wigs make that big money you hear about on the Cd's you buy and the functions you attend. Lets see here atleast $40 a month on Cd's your local function tickets cost you somewhere around $20 and your major function tickets costs you somewhere in the neighborhood of $150. Then if you were like me and do 300 pv you are spending $1000 a month on your order. Now my degree is not in math but I know that $1000 a month on an order calculates to $12,000 a year and that does not include tickets and cds. Even if you are only doing he minimum 100pv that is still in the ball park of $300 a month which is $3600 a yr and that is without cds and tickets also. So people yall need to sell you stuff to someone who does not know this business I for one know this business in and out from being an IBO for a very long time. Now do me a favor and ask your upline how all those people, Lennon Ledbetter, Dexter Yeager and other made their money. Come on dont be scared of your upline ask the question. |
Joe Texas | 1:11pm on Monday, May 4th, 2009  | LOL, yes, lets' talk about shopping from home. Shopping from home can be convenient, but it costs more because of shipping costs. Thus Amway products are already expensive then you add shipping plus you don't get the products right away. And... You still need to go to the store unless you don't buy bread, eggs, and other perishables. And you guys call me negative. I am not negative. I just have an opposing viewpoint, which I have backed up. Most IBO's lose money or make little for their efforts. Why it's negative to speak the truth is a mystery to me. |
bruce long island | 5:50pm on Sunday, May 3rd, 2009  | well here is how i feel i dont give a damn what anyone thinks this business rocks thats first of all. I dont go to functions i dont get on standard order and i dont buy cds i do however buy the products which are outstanding expensive yes but the products outside in stores like the water you drink are horrible. First of all poland spring deer park and great bear are disgusting full of contaminants and bacteria mercury ever taste it really gross now the perfect water yes a bit expensive its out of this world. I am really not an energy drink kind of guy dont go for that but things like the laundry detergent and dishdrops amazing no store product can top it. As for this business yes it dont work for alot of people but i have been in this business for 10 months exactly i only made 17k now is this good well lol im not rich but its extra income i didnt have i spent about 4k around 400 a month so i made about 13k not bad for a business that has so many positive people the truth is misery loves company and so many negative people in this world. I do however feel sorry for people that work in jobs which are prisoners of work lets see 1 they will neevr make more then the boss 2 when they retire it wont be till at least 65-70 if you were for the city you get half your money in a job you can easily get laid off sad that people have to work for someone i for one do sadly work in a job pays well but cant wait to not work for anyone and just do this business. Does a job truly care about you? answer no when you go to the store do they care about you? answer no in this business we get money back for buying the products remember dont like everything i like about 12 things alot which i buy anyway and for all the people that say its a pyramid lol what a joke take a good look people do you work in a job well your in a pyramid WAKE UP the jokes on you i sponsored 4 people out of my 17 downlines and 3 make triple what i make at least why they have more time and work harder. The reason why most fail in life is because they are lazy and fat sit by the tv and watch winners succeed while they just waste their sorry life away. I dont even have a tv because i choose not to all negative anyway and besides what better way to spend your time then reading of course msot dotn know how to read or hate reading which is probably why they still work for someone and most are broke the truth is network marketing is good for the person who sweats and busts their butt and dont have no fear are positive all the time because the truth is if you want something bad enough no one can stop you but you one final thought people say they lost their spouses by doing this lol that is hilarious maybe you lost your husbands because you were lazy, boring, or quite frankly blaming things on this when the truth is the marriage was crumbling way before you got into this what pathetic people in the world keep working for someone just remember when you are financially free i will be up at say 11am what time will you get up hmm 5am to go work for someone pity the person who doesnt at least want to make extra money dont have to be this business but some sort of network marketing business |
Marques Columbus, Ohio | 4:58am on Sunday, May 3rd, 2009  | Here it is, Amway Global is not a fake, scam nor is it a joke as joe and others say,it helps people shop at home when they don't WANT to go out to do so and be stressing about managing time and money thru there days on earth. Theirs always a negative person in everything that is possible in this world. You just have to understand that! but don't live your life listening to negative things because your going to become negative and your going to achieve negatively in life because you think thats the way it is and it's not, failure is one of the things that help you grow because someday you are giong to get tired of failing and your going to start listening to the ones who failed once and fast forward their life to not fail anymore because they know when and how to be successful and thats what amways about their about helping people with all types of backgrounds, color, sex, and ethnicity this is the only thing that allows you to be successful as you want to be and it doesnt discriminate or hate or tell you that your not smart enough to do this like your boss would at your job. Here at amway everyone has a privilege to be successful and you dont have to be filthy rich in order to call your self successful you can just be an average JOE that wants to pay all their bills on time or in advance, now you can't do that working for someone because they are going to make you change into what they want you to be not what you want to be or how much you want and with amway you make as much as you want if you work at it like your doing already "working for it" but for a industrial setting, and I know you dont want to be slaving for some corporate person who is someday going to pick up and leave you behind and find some other negative minded people who can't seem to think for there self or know how to be INDEPENDENT and pay them cheaper! Now your out on a limb!Amway shows you how to be INDEPENDENT not dependent. And amway is Resession Free because they have no Loans thru the banks that might forclose or seize them and they dont depend on the stock market to make money because they have smart IBOs like myself making extra money on the side of things and creating business for partners and the exclusive companies. And i paid 160 dollars to start and i made that back in a week by selling Nutrilite to people who care about their health and Artistry to people who know and love the skin their in everyday that loves Artistry,also SA8 detergents the No.#1 brand leading for laundry usage. Look I brought this nice t-shirt from hanes and i told a few of my friends to buy it so we can all match and they did! do you think hanes cut me a check for referring them to buy those shirts? NO they didnt! So with Amway Now i can get paid for creating business to other business and you dont change nothing in your life, its all on the Individual and what they want or looking for! so your basically not doing anything that you are not doing already and thats shopping except your getting paid for it, by buying stuff for your own self or telling people to buy from you at you own discrestion. and that 48 dollar case of water is well worth it because its not your regular spring or "tap" water its Perfect water Empowered by a premium infused MBO. I uses a 15 step manufacturing process to ensure purity at its best and i gaurantee that I enjoy it my team mates enjoy it on my football team The Ohio State unversity Buckeyes! this water is amazing it actually helps you hydrate and helps you gain your breath back during hard workouts so 48 bucks is worth every bit of it Joe you may want to reconsider your resources. and I also went to a function in Greensboro, N.C and their were 10,000 people their attending this, you mean to tell me joe that all those peolpe miss the same message you recieve from Amway that its a scam and all that other B.S.!! because i know i am very intelligent working on my masters in medicine and soon phD. and i Know this system is great for people to live on and with and this is longterm unlike your mom and pop's stores or traditional businesses. and believe me 10,000 brains are better than one Joe and his Advocates. |
Vic B.C. | 3:48pm on Saturday, May 2nd, 2009  | lets say quickstar is immune to the bad economy.
other people are not. quickstar makes profit from selling merchandise. who purchases these items?
surely not people that were just laid off. |
Renee Michigan | 12:09pm on Friday, May 1st, 2009  | ooookkkkaaaayyyyyy first of all i am 16 years old my parents have been doing this business for before i was born it is hard and you cant not expect to not work at it. you cant make money doing nothing... they dont have to wake up at the crack of dawn evrey moring and they dont have any probloms supporting me my 14 year old brother or my 20 year old sister that still lives at home you can only go up in this business no we are not rich...not yet |
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