Quixtar Reviews

Pj   Northern VA

2:39pm on Monday, March 1st, 2010 

Ive been recruited several times by IBO and I can't help but to notice the desperation in the individual faces for me to fall for this scam. There's money to be made with this program...but you have to learn how to BS. Recruit as many people as possible and just tell them a bunch of BS. Only people that bank are folks at the top.

Jose   CA

2:40pm on Saturday, February 27th, 2010

All I have to say is that it works. My parents have been doing it now for about 3 years and they make a little bit more than 80,000 a year. My mom and dad burly know how to write and read and make as much or more than a teacher. My parents are from Mexico.

Paco   San Diego, CA

11:48am on Monday, February 22nd, 2010 

Do not waste your time or life with this! I got out early and it was the best move I have ever made. They have pointless seminars and don't initially tell you what the so called "BUSINESS" is about. YOU WILL LOSE A LOT MORE than you will ever make! It is a legal scam! They just need dummies to sign up and join the tragedy train!

Joe   Texas

5:31pm on Friday, February 19th, 2010 

Hi Anthony,

Let me address some of your points. Amway must be legit because it's been around for 50 years. Do we still have organized crime in America? Do we have drug dealers? Yes, but they must be legit because they've been around longer than Amway?

Amway is not get rich quick. Yes, but obviously someone gave you the idea that you would get rich somehow, or you would not be interested right?

An IBO making more than the one who referred him means nothing. You will never make more than one of the big old time diamonds who run the tools systems.

How do you "help" people become successful? By selling them voicemail and other materials that cost more than most of them will ever earn from Amway? By telling them they "need" to attend functions where they will be told to ignore facts if you have a dream, or that they should never quit? How does this help anyone?

Having someone control your life and your income? That would be called your upline. LOL

Good luck to you Anthony. Have you made a net profit from this wonderful opportunity or did you suffer a loss after paying for voicemail, standing order, book of the month, open meetings and seminars? I bet you have a net loss.

Anthony Ricci   Hawthorne, NJ

2:54pm on Thursday, February 18th, 2010

My name is Anthony Ricci and I am an Amway Global IBO. I consider myself married to the business. I saw the marketing plan six months ago and I have built a great business. I am not a salesman nor am I someone who would even consider hurting other people.
What attracted me to Amway was that I didn't feel pressured to do anything. The site Quixtar has over 2 million products including Partner Stores and Services. I made choices and based upon those choices, I am where I am now. I met people who I connected with in the business. I wish I would have started this 10 years ago. Does this business require work in the very beginning? Yes. This goes for anything. You wouldn't stop your car in the middle of a car wash and say it's done? Would you? This is not fast money. It doesn't work like that. This business has nothing and I mean nothing to do with scamming anyone. Anyone who feels that way is more than welcome to feel that and up to six months, one can turn in their kit and get their refund. It's a shame that someone would call this business a scheme. Don't you think if something is around 50 years, it would be credible? What will it take for people to realize this? I understand that this business is not for everybody. Amway should not be even mentioned when one is talking about pyramid schemes or illegal activities. Our business plan might look like a pyramid when it is drawn out but that is a visual association that one could be making. The fact is one can make more than the person who referred that person. No one is a boss of anyone. Yes, we have sponsorship and mentorship but do you get that at your job? Does your boss want you to make more than he or she? Of course not. We want to help others to be successful FIRST. When did that become illegal?
I would highly suggest that if you one is going to judge our business, try it for 90 days and see if it's for you. Until then, enjoy your job and having someone control your life, your income, your lifestyle, how many kids you have, how many cars you have, when to take vacation, when to come back, what time you get up in the morning, what time you go to bed, what you can own and what you can't. That sounds like a good deal. Right?

Anonymous   Location unknown

1:46pm on Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010

Yes there are limits to how you can advertise with Quixtar. I have 3 websites that are approved by Quixtar, they are actually quixtar sites. I then with an approved business card placed them on them on the card. Then I hand the cards out and that has a small advertising campaign taken care of,

Beth   Rockford Illinois

2:08pm on Saturday, October 24th, 2009 

Amway Quixtar people are not positive. They complain about their day jobs and their IBO uplines begin by trying to convince people to start hating their jobs and their lives. The people I met were stressed and desperate. The people they conned were upset and angry. My ex boyfriend is well educated and works hard and buys over $500 a month and makes less income than $10 a month after three years of trying and going to every national and local convention and hotel and buying every CD and plan. Almost no one wins in Amway. My other friends that did make money ended up taken to court by the Amway lawyers for fraud charges.

Lorwood   NY

1:28pm on Wednesday, October 21st, 2009 

Answer me this boy blunder,

Will Quixtar/Amway/BWW let you sell there products and or memberships through your own website? The answer is no.

Unless you are an idiot thats all you need to know about this scam

Joe   Texas

7:02pm on Monday, October 5th, 2009 

Brian's story is typical of many IBO's. Full of contradictory statements. Brian says he is not a platinum and then in the next sentence he says he is a platinum. I bet Brian is new in the business, hasn't sponsored anyone but is fired up owning his own business. I wonder if Brian even makes the average income of $115 a month that Amway claims.

brian   ny

7:58pm on Saturday, October 3rd, 2009 

funny how people mention scam the only scam in life is working a job and working the rest of your life until your 72. If it were a scam the company wouldn't have made 8.2 billion by the way the owner of this business is worth 4.2 billion in forbes magazine and owns the orlando magic. I am not going to brag and how great this business is because for me it has worked although i have not made it past a platinum and not rich from it but it helps pay some bills and save a few dollars as well. I have been in this business for 2 years and 4 months now finally going platinum 2 months ago. Every business has ups and downs positives and negatives but for most people they truly think negative. They have no clue about this business other then reading negative blogs which is a shame. People should see what its about first and if they want to judge trying judging your job which by the way there are 10.2 million people out of work worldwide ive been told. The products are outstanding and really don't care how much if its good but hey to each his own in whatever they do with their life and good luck in your job. You are in what is called a prisoner of work and believing by getting a paycheck each week lol you will actually get somewhere and that somewhere is for sure nowhere just being comfortable. I actually to be honest love real estate which is my big source of income and this being second. The amway global business works but to be honest very few succeed but i choose not to be the one that doesn't succeed and have made it to the first level and if thats the only place i go in this business i already won.

David Camp   North Carolina

2:35pm on Wednesday, September 30th, 2009 

When I was in the Military a few of the guys in my unit got sucked into "the business" a.k.a AMWAY. There was an immediate change in there attitudes and behavior. First, they would come in to work tired as hell running on no sleep from all night pep talks, dinners, meetings, etc. They started recruiting immediately and if you said no you were blown off even in a military capacity. It appeared to me that the only people that they had any respect for were the "up lines" or "diamond" level scammers. I watched good men with promising careers throw it all away on a whim and a line of BS from some cheap suit wearing silver tongued loser. My advice is when you here "Individual business owner" ask for a copy of there "State issued tax ID or State Issued Business License". My guess is they won't be able to produce such a thing. Your not a legitimate business owner unless you have a "brick and mortar" storefront, have business hours, collect sales tax and pay taxes. Any peckerhead can attend a meeting, pay a few hundred bucks, get scammed and call himself a business owner. Wake up and get a real job and stop the get rich quick crap.

ashley   VA

10:26pm on Monday, September 28th, 2009 

I was recently recruited to Amway/LTD and actually just went to a LTD Summit function. Without going into a rant, let me just say these people are crazy. It is just like a cult. There is even this huge church service at the end where you are "saved" by a former car wash employee turned millionaire. They may be nice people, but they are brainwashed.
Plenty of people have discussed the products and whether or not you can make money, so I wont say much about that either except making this point: Has anyone that believes in this sat and thought about the ratios of people that make money to those who dont? For example, this year they celebrated the 14th couple to go "diamond". 14 couples, thats all, from the about 50,000 people or more they said that are involved in this business. So what chance do you really think you have of achieving that? If its such a good plan and easy if you are a hard worker, how come more people arent diamonds?
Yes some people can make some money, but if you want to you must do this: alienate all of your friends and family by harassing them to join or at least buy your products (my friends that got called by my sponsor said no but he kept calling and pissing them off- he said you have to keep calling because they may change their mind), have a cell phone glued to your ear, be a bookeeper so you dont get audited by the IRS, pay $5 to go to the same meeting every week, pay lots of money to go to brainwashing functions, give up all of your friends and family that arent in, go all over to meet with people to try to steal their friends numbers from their facebook, work your day job then spend every other free minute at night dealing with your business, stop listening to music and watching tv and replace it with their books and cds, give up your outside activities (baseball team, hobbies, clubs, etc), basically eat sleep and breathe LTD. If that sounds like fun, good luck.

marcus   ohio

3:10pm on Thursday, September 17th, 2009 

I was in for a year. My best friend and i had been tricked into doing this business,the money sounded great. the plan is exaggerated and the amount of time you would have to spend. my best friend sponsored me, and i thought his sponsor was awesome. and everyone was so nice- or so they seemed.

the first time i went to function, i was blown away. all the great testimonials, the sharply dressed peers, the patriotic themes, spiritual themes, but it was all to keep you coming back and spending money. there would be 10,000 people in attendance usually, most of them 18-25 years old. yet you cant talk to them unless a common upline was around- you definitely couldn't date a girl in a different line of sponsorship- they would kick you out. they brainwash you by sleep depriving you, your usually hungry, and by exposing you to every emotion. fridays were pump up days,even some anger at how hard people on stage had it before the opportunity. saturdays were sorrowful days- larry would talk about how proud his father was of him before he died, then he would make jokes until you passed out. the sunday mornign was absolutely sinister, he would preach the gospel and then invite people to come up to be saved. this sounds good at first, but it was to remove any doubts- connect ministry with LTD.

every night at function they would have these night owls. Night owls were when the downline gathered around a common upline, who spoke about nothing really. He would talk about his dreams, and told stories to make himself look really cool and bold. there was no teaching, just a re emphasis on the platinum or above being some sort of god. and if you tried to be as funny or cool as your upline, you were looked down upon.

I still went to school, but i devoted myself to LTD. i spent all my money(and there wasnt that much) on books, gas to show the plan, functions(hotels, gas, $120 dollar ticket ended up beign $250 on average). nothing worked, people didnt get in. i was respected among my peers, i have a black belt in tkd, played football but only one guy got in during that year- LTD makes you feel like you should take it personally- that people are insulting you by saying no to the plan. they also say that your not changing your thought process, not reading enough books, not having enough faith in God. thats right- they equate faith to success in the business. my parents suffered too, as i would lie how i needed money for rent- that i didnt make as much money as i actually did at my job. it hurt them, and i feel terrible and depressed to this day.

they use innuendo to tell you what to do, to quit a job if it interferes with function, get a cheap car, live in a crappy apartment, get a easy low paying job, and get into buying tools each month. it was all to keep your available income high in order that you would buy products and tools consistently. they also begin to take control of everything you do- how you spend money, who you hang out with( if anyone outside the team), how you shouldnt talk to FAMILY and friends who viewed the business negatively. they even seemed to wish hardship on people who rejected the business plan.

the reason i stayed in was because i am a sinner who wanted to win the lottery- even if it meant others had to suffer for me to be rich, but they would always say that its not the business' fault people are poor- its their jobs. but even with that knowledge the Christian emphasis seemed so real that maybe God did use it for some sort of good purpose. On sunday morning so many people went up to get saved- so i thought this is my purpose. what triggered the beginning of the end was what My platinum nate hahn said- and i quote-
"we dont tell people about sunday morning service at function- its our big guns." when he said that, it was the beginning of the end.


Me and my best friend just decided to leave at the end of the school year. Thank God(the real one- not the Jesus they talk about in LTD) we got out. If it wasnt for divine intervention i woudl still be in wisconsin trying to make it work- i was completely brainwashed. i was only out for a couple days when i realized how bad this last year was- the worst of my life bar none. it was killing us. Now im going to school, eating real food instead of the idiotic products, not wasting my time at stupid functions or rallies, and planning on rubbing real success in LTD's face one day.

And to all the people who defend amway as if your lives depend on it because they think its the only way or that God blesses this business- that its a ministry. How dare Larry Winters and the "leaders" but God in a box. Its as if they confine God to one business, one that makes most of its money dishonestly with tools.

for those of you who have been hurt by amway, this business must be destroyed- it needs to end.

Prey of Quixtar   California

7:11am on Tuesday, September 15th, 2009 

I was trapped in this business. And my mentor Diamond xyz(this is how these psychos call each other) took me to training in Walmart where he was praising unnecessarily to the person whom neither of us know. Asking him where he works, from where he has come, and his cell phone number. I found this very stupid and offensive, It wasnt a good move to ask someone the personal details in first meet. Some were polite while some very aggressive or say arrogant, because how can one tolerate such thing. That day i decided to get out of that business. These people keep bothering you all the time. If you attend the meeting, you will see these people praising other IBO's in front of new comer. One fellow told me about the person who gave the seminar that, shaking hand with him more that shaking hand with Sachin tendulkar or shahrukh khan. These try to get you in the bottle. Beware.

Joe   Texas

3:13pm on Wednesday, September 9th, 2009

Abel, what you say makes sense but doesn't necessarily apply to Amway. Let me explain, Amway is a complicated business and comes with much baggage. There is too much to overcome for most people to succeed. It is far easier to make money selling on ebay or by getting a second job.

Also, Amway has perils because many Amway recruiters use deception when they want people to sign up. That misrepresentation results in more failures and adds to Amway's already soiled reputation.

Abel   Woodburn

8:22pm on Tuesday, September 8th, 2009 

Hello everyone,
I just wanted to share with you a personal opinion. NO business works by itself, it is the people that makes it work. If people try to join any kind of business but don't understand the concept or the business structure, it'll never work!!! no matter how good a compensation plan or training system is. What might be good for you might not for everybody. Get to know what you are about to start, feel it, if it's good share or sell it or as you want to call it. Don't waste your time and energy criticizing. Success or failure is one's responsibility.

jai   asia

3:34am on Saturday, September 5th, 2009

Dear Friends,

How about internet marketing? will you call scam if you lose money to learn the trade - or about people teaching forex etc, where they said you must buy this goods or that CD etc, will you buy and get scam. Again members who applies the knowledge well and correctly, they succeed. Does that mean scam, likewise for Amway, if you have negative thoughts and unable to find a mentor, let me know, contact me.

jai   asia

3:30am on Saturday, September 5th, 2009

Dear Friends,

I heard most of negative info about Amway then positive information. Beside IBO, did any of you guys truly use the product and value the result?? Be Honest. Isn't it good or bad for the same price in the market! Simple item like toothpaste for instant, I use only colgate for several years and then tried Glister, i can feel the difference, of course colgate is cheap versus quality!! Like wise, amway offering a simple and straight forward business model for everyone. CD and Books are optional, Can anyone be honest tell me if you do your own Business, will you improve the knowledge in your business. How will you do it (by reading books / journal / CD or does it comes from haven!) Be honest.
Those who put up negative comments and saying lost money (some mentioned 100K), was it on the product you buy or simply partying for new IBO!! Please honest.
Appreciate if everyone can be honest and say the right thing, we can evaluate any business model. As long we are in the earth, we need money and all of us have to work hard to earn that money for survival. Think about it. Amway Global achieve some $8.3Billion sales in 2008 and paid 100% bonus cheque to all qualified IBO.

Be Honest and share the truth..

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:55pm on Friday, August 28th, 2009 

Joe from Texas,
I admire your vigilance in trying to convince people of what should be obvious...Quixtar is a massive scam...I just moved into an apartment complex and IMMEDIATELY the guy next door and his cohort tried to recruit me into this pyramid scheme/cult. If these people want to make money they should just get jobs...even if this thing does work for a small percentage of people, leaching off of others is pretty despicable.

CB   NY

11:35am on Friday, August 28th, 2009

The business concept makes sense but the problem with most people is that they believe what the "UP-line" says as gospel. Buying all the cd's & seminars of constant repetition makes no sense...just say no to your up-line when it comes to buying all the cd's.
The team building aspect is existent in all businesses regardless of industry so with any business you reap what you sow....

People need to stop blaming the "Amway company" for their failures...we fail because we choose to. If you see possible failure get out fast don't stay in there when your efforts are minimal...

it takes 20 years to become emerald for most IBO's same as any other job I takes the average person 20 years to make six figures. Every job takes effort remember that and lots of self belief.

momma   nj

9:37pm on Thursday, August 27th, 2009 

how funny all this is! not for me, i dont understand how people complain about not spending time with their children when their in my house at 9pm on a wednesday with their kid trying to make me buy things i buy from the walmart down the block from me anyways at eh same price, go home and spend time with your kid and get a part time job and your guaranteed more money then you'll make here. not knocking you byob's or whatever you are, just rather make my money another way, its called education and experience and that's no bs.

Joe   Texas

7:10pm on Monday, August 17th, 2009

All I do is leave comments on this blog about why Amway and Quixtar is a bad idea and I make hundreds of thousands a year and I have a nice house and sports cars and all kinds of cool stuff. I don't even work anymore.

Ana   Iowa

3:28pm on Monday, August 17th, 2009

My uncles friend didn't think that Amway/Quixtar would work but he got in it to give it a try and now he's making thousands of dollars a month. Him and his wife don't work and they have a very big and very beautiful house.

mrmaximum   canada

8:42pm on Friday, August 7th, 2009 

Since this is a review to the Amway Global business and people are posting their comments, I guess I will add some questions to any prospective IBO’s who are reading this at the moment. Amway Global touts itself as being exactly like McDonalds in the fact that when you buy a franchise, you buy McDonald’s PROVEN business system. For approx $200.00 dollars, you enroll into Amway’s proven business system and can expect the same level of success.

The issue that I have is that while both companies have received bad press in the past or even at this very moment, the nature of the messages the media gives couldn’t be anymore different. I know that there was a book written not just about McDonalds but the whole fast foot industry (Fast Food Nation) and even a movie by Morgan Spurlock about the dangers of how unhealthy McDonalds food was. I even came across a video game that anyone can download which parodies the running of the whole corporation.

What is the main crux of the bad press McDonalds receives? Due to the fact that not only does their business system work, but it works DAMN WELL. A mom and pop restaurant, which serves unhealthy food, won’t make the paper, but a global conglomerate, which does, is newsworthy. There are not forums or reviews of people asking whether the McDonalds system works. If a franchisee does lose money, anyone and their brother knows that they are the exception, not the rule.

In fact, let’s try another business, I heard of some people who happen to hate Wal-Mart? Why is that? When one of their gigantic stores invades a town, it muscles the smaller business owners out of business. Once again, a problem of the Wal-Mart business system working, not that it may work, or it will work if you work it. If anyone watches the family guy, you can also see that Wal-Mart was parodied there too. Like I said, for it’s overwhelming success.

Can the same be said of Amway? What kind of press does Amway receive? What sorts of stats are posted about it in terms of an IBO’s success? If the Amway system was as proven as McDonalds and even Wal-Mart’s, well, wouldn’t we all know about it? Would this review even exist? People here are arguing about whether the business even works or it doesn’t. There are huge amounts of people who have negative stories about their Amway experience. You will find websites, groups and associations who have issues with any business under the sun, no matter who they are and how well they do business. It is true that you cannot please everyone. My question to you however, is how many are there who have had negative experiences with their McDonalds Franchise? How many about Wal-Mart, AT&T, Verizon?

Get the picture now? You will find that there is an overwhelming amount of negative in regards to Amway as opposed to a very small amount of positive. No one can win at everything, not EVERY McDonalds Franchise makes money, but if 99% don’t, then there is obviously an issue with the business model, not the operators who have enrolled.
These are some things that may be good to consider before you enroll in the business. If the business was as good as it was stated, so quitting Amway was akin to quitting McDonalds, then I could agree that this group of people may be simply bitter and want to lash out. But, looking at Amway’s track record, if so many ‘losers’ are being produced, then there may be something wrong with the machine.

Consider it.

Joe   Texas

6:34pm on Friday, August 7th, 2009 

Amhad said: Okay, so I have been reading and I see that the people who have failed assume that Quixtar/Amway is a scam. Negative. You have to be able to implement the steps they have in place.

Joe says: We do not assume. There are hard facts to base our conclusion on.

Amhad said: This is of course not for everyone. Only for people who would rather think like a business owner. IF you would rather think like a consumer, then you will fail. If you are thinking about the price of the products, you do not understand the concept

Joe says: Why do IBO's think like consumers? If you are a prosumer or buy from yourself, you have a consumer mentality. If you think about the price of products, that is smart, if you ignore these facts, you are foolish.

Amhad said: Lastly, Ive been seeing people saying, "how can you be a business owner but be part of a group?" That is the most ignorant question I have ever heard.

Joe says: It's more ignorant to call yourself an independent business owner when you are a commissioned salesperson.

Ahmad   New Jersey

2:40pm on Friday, August 7th, 2009 

Okay, so I have been reading and I see that the people who have failed assume that Quixtar/Amway is a scam. Negative. You have to be able to implement the steps they have in place.

This is of course not for everyone. Only for people who would rather think like a business owner. IF you would rather think like a consumer, then you will fail. If you are thinking about the price of the products, you do not understand the concept.

Lastly, Ive been seeing people saying, "how can you be a business owner but be part of a group?" That is the most ignorant question I have ever heard...its like saying, how can you be a home owner but still be part of a Home Owners Association. Thats all the group is- a support system. The more you put in, the more you get.

Johnny Gaddar   CA

10:48pm on Wednesday, August 5th, 2009 

Quixtar is awful and those f**king IBOs who try to get you in the business. I went to couple of meetings thinking that there is really something but very soon I realized it was a scam. One of the IBO's was calling me everyday, they are like leeches. Avoid them, at any cost.

DonJuan   Montana

11:15pm on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009 

The system does work, but in return those people who get involved seem to sell out all their friends for meetings and other business BS that is just repeat after repeat. A waste of money for all the fees and way overpriced supplements. Also they pester the hell out of you once your in. Unless you love your cellphone glued to your head, dont get involved.

Nidhika Jain   Georgia

2:18pm on Tuesday, August 4th, 2009 

It's just a waste of time. Me and my husband dedicated our lives for AMWAY for the paste 9 years. We did EVERYTHING. Lost over 100K in the paste nine years. The word UPLINE really irritates me these days. Everybody around you will fake it. All your upline is worried about is your PV and the TOOL FLOW, After all that's how they make money on you...Instead they can directly start collecting money from your "DIAMOND RELIEF FUND". They will rob you away, just be careful with these AMWAY people.

Rose Mary Dayton   North Carolina

11:39am on Thursday, July 23rd, 2009 

I joined Quixtar in 1999, I went to most of the meetings and bought the tapes and books. While they were all very good I did not make any money. Why? I didn't put the work required into it. You have to really make tracks if you want to succeed but it is very possible. I don't kow if you have seen some of their achievement magazines. The last few that I saw (my friend s an amway distributor) was filled with a group of people that totally support each other. They were Asian. So the trick is to create your own family of people that will support you and others in your team.

As I said before it takes a lot of work to arrive at whatever goal you want to reach. I had a full time job at the time and some health issues but if you are willing to work hard it works. How do you think your uplines reached their status? So good luck if you want to join this organization. By the way my friend is still in it.

Joe   Iowa

12:08am on Saturday, July 18th, 2009 

They make their money selling the seminars, books, tapes, all the pointless sh*t that shows you how to be a successful business person. In the end you get screwed. Quixtar abuses the trust that people have with people they know. You will buy a product and maybe it seems like it works, even if it does, you are still paying an outrageous price for it for the same benefits you could get from a cheap alternative at a walmart or target, but because people you know have a level of trust with you, they are willing to give in and buy into this program. The "CEO's" make the money selling them all the same junk they sold you, sure you might make some spare change off of that, but they are making bank off of it.

Bill Helvey   Ky

5:38am on Friday, June 26th, 2009 

Amway Global is a manufacturing company.The Business building Gurus Selling Tools , Books, Dreamnights, Vacations,Seminars,Speaking engagements , and training will always sell the idea that anyone can get rich and change their life.My own experience is that those that earn income this way have already obtained their wealth and will continue to do what they do.The training is great for business sales go getters however most people are not that type. Good luck.

Joe   Texas

12:30pm on Monday, June 22nd, 2009 

AJ, You did not read my response carefully.

Say I do 300 PV and my upline platinum does 100 PV. I did more work correct? Tell me why my upline platinum gets most of the bonus that I earned? I did the work but upline gets most of the money. How is that getting what I put into the business?

In fact, somewhere upline, there's a diamond or bigger pin who doesn't know who I am, who may not have done a single thing to help me who will get a bonus from my efforts. How is he getting that bonus when I did the work?

AJ   Florida

6:48am on Monday, June 22nd, 2009 

Well Joe you completely mis-read my post. You do get out of the business what you put in to it. Just like ANY business, you do nothing, you get nothing. You apparently did not read the part about where I mentioned the different compensation plans. Some compensation plans don't make any sense to me either, but that does not make the business model bad. It seems to me that you just jumped into the first network marketing company that was presented to you, apparently Amway/Qixtar, you had a bad experience and now you feel all network marketing companies are bad. I did Amway back in the 80's myself and it didn't work out for me either. But I moved on. I've looked into several other companies including Mona Vie and Freedom Fuel before going with 4Life.
Now I know you didn't read the last part of my post at all. As I stated, with the exception of Warren Buffet, none of the men I mentioned made their money in Network Marketing. They are all multi-millionaire business men who support and/or agree with the network marketing business model and see it as a viable means for the "Average Joe" that doesn't have millions to invest to potentially attain financial freedom. In one of the previous posts, I thought it was one of yours, it stated to the effect of, "if network marketing is so good then how come nobody rich or famous supports it." Not the exact words, I can't find the post again but it was to that effect. I just provided a few supporters.

RAJ   TEXAS

1:27am on Saturday, June 20th, 2009 

Jose, CaliforniA
F U MAN. BE TRUE AND TELL TRUE WHAT EXACTLY YOU DID TO GET SUCCESS. I KNOW YOU WORK HARD BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU LIE TO AND HOW MANY FAMILIES MEAL YOU DRINK ON XS EVERY DAY. you people r like bed bug which suck blood. how may people in your family do this business and how many people did really made money month after month. you guys are like parasite

RAJ   TEXAS

12:33am on Saturday, June 20th, 2009 

I JOINED THIS BUSSINESS MAY BE 5 YEARS AGO. MY UPLINE THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL WHO EVER GET YOU IN THIS SPONSOR YOU, GAVE ME FREE CD'S BOOK FOR FREE TO LISTEN AND GIVE HIM BACK. EVENTUALLY THEY TOLD ME TO BUY BOOK AND CD AND EVERY THING. GOOOD THING ABOUT IT IS THEY GIVE YOU CD BOOK ON CREDIT AND EVENTUALLY THEY ADD INTEREST AT LEAST 100 PERCENT PLUS YOU ONLY TAKE FIVE CD BUT IN HIS ACCOUNT IT SAYS 9 SO THINK HOW THEY MAKE MONEY. AND GO TO HOTEL ON 59 AND BUFFALO EVERY TUESDAY YOU WILL FIND LOTS OF FUKER THERE TO ROB YOU.

Bill Helvey   Kentucky

7:18pm on Thursday, June 18th, 2009 

Due to a massive dollar shift in value and a political climate unpredictable Quixtar is going to be the loser in the USA. The products are too expensive when people are shopping for bargains and their seller network is almost invisible.They are doing better in developing countries.As a Former IBO. It is not economically wise to invest the amount of time it takes and the commitment for a fleeting ideology. Only the loyal believers in the "system" will follow blindly.The fuel cost alone makes the profit margin negative.

Joe   Texas

6:40pm on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 

Tim From Washington said: I was involved with Amway and then Quixtar for 18 years and never made any money, but think it is a great program because your support team will teach you the secrets of success in anything. We started investing on our own using the ideas our team taught us and are now multi-million airs.

Joe From texas says: Yes, 18 years and you never made any money. Seems they teach you everything except how to be successful in Amway/Quixtar.

If you are now a millionaire (note the spelling), then you were probably stifled by the Amway/Quixtar teaching and now successful since you got out of Amway/Quixtar.

Tim   Washington DC

3:51pm on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 

I was involved with Amway and then Quixtar for 18 years and never made any money, but think it is a great program because your support team will teach you the secrets of success in anything. When we got out of Quixtar about two years ago, (we still buy the products from our sponsors)we started investing on our own using the ideas our team taught us and are now multi-million airs. We were in a town-house and now live in a 6000 square foot 3 year old house and have 4 rental properties and a 2400 square foot beach house. Also my family and marriage is the best. The people skills taught through the system is something you cant learn by opening a web site or advertising on Craig’s list.
So Try it and good luck.

Mr. Kelly   Oregon

10:54am on Wednesday, June 17th, 2009 

It all depends on the person, you can make "Quixtar" / "Amway Global" the Way You Want Too .... You can BUILD it to Financial Blessing$ or You Can Think Up Every Excuse WHY It's Failing. It's can be as Simple as 1,2,3; or you can add a Lot of Unnecessary Items to Blog You Down. "Quixtar" is a Business of Your Desires!
Mr. Kelly - An I.B.O.

Joe   Texas

7:19pm on Tuesday, June 16th, 2009 

AJ said: OK, Joe, I see you keep knocking the IBO's as having a low rate of success. This is probably true due to the fact that you will only get out of the business what you put into it

Joe says: Not true. In the Amway plan (6-4-2), all the IBOs do 100 points, but only one of them makes any money. So no, you do not necessarily get out of the business, what you put into it.

You listed some folks who supposedly succeeded in network marketing. I'm not sure what that proves as you have not verified where their earnings came from. Also, if I posted a list of lottery winners, does that mean the lottery is a good way to earn a living?

AJ   Florida

11:31pm on Monday, June 15th, 2009 

To start I am not involved with Quixtar but I am with 4Life Research. 4Life is not listed here but I wanted to put my 2 cents towards the negative comments. Network Marketing works. Like any business you have to work at it the make it a success. If anybody is going off of just one bad experience all I can say is that you gave up too soon. If you go to a restaurant and have bad meal do you quit going out to eat? I don't think you do. You will find another restaurant, one you like and enjoy. There are hundreds of network marketing companies out there with different products, training and compensation plans. If you truly want to own your own home-based business then this is the way to go. Do your due dilligence and find the one that is right for you. Will you get rich overnight ? Definitely not. But if you do the work and follow the system you can in time become very wealthy.
OK, Joe, I see you keep knocking the IBO's as having a low rate of success. This is probably true due to the fact that you will only get out of the business what you put into it and several owners will, like yourself, barely try, barely achieve, become frustrated, quit and then justify there own incompetence by bad mouthing the business and blaming anything or anyone else but themselves for their failure. Now,as far as listing any names of the wealthy that support or believe in the Network Marketing model, I didn't see if anyone else gave you any but I'll give you a few.

1) Robert Kyosaki - multi-millionaire best selling author of "Rich Dad/ Poor Dad" and also the book "Business School for people who like helping people" which is about network marketing.

2) Paul Zane Pilzer - muliti-millionaire economist known for predicting economic trends. His current prediction, Network Marketing and the wellness revolution.

3) Donald Trump - I think everybody knows "The Donald" and I have an article that he did with Kyosaki where he mentions how he sees the network marketing business model as a viable means to gain financial independence.

4) And lastly, Warren Buffet - while the first 3 names I listed have not made money through network marketing, Buffet bought Pamper Chef, a network marketing company.

Now wow, I don't no about you but that is alot of wealth talking there.

Joe   Texas

1:06pm on Monday, June 15th, 2009 

Hi Mattie, quixtar doesn't exist anymore. The business is called Amway Global. It's nice that the business changed your life, but you didn't mention whether you actually made any money. After all, a business exists to make money right?

Mattie   New York

11:05am on Monday, June 15th, 2009

Quixtar is not a scam. Quixtar changed many people lives including mines and the people in my business. So if the business did not work for you too bad maybe you were tooooo stupid to see the opportuniy. In fact I have international business because of the resources in Quixtar and BWW. Stop talking negative about a company that has changed my life for the BEST.

JOHN   North Hollywood

3:06am on Monday, June 15th, 2009 

YOU KNOW WHAT IS THE FUNNY STUFF IS PUTTING QUIXTAR/AMWAY GLOBAL DOWN. IS JUST CRAZY PEOPLE AND NEGATIVE PEOPLE LIKE TO PUT EVERYTHING DOWN, JUST BECAUSE THEY DID NOT MADE A QUICK CASH I MEAN MOST NEGATIVE PEOPLE HERE WANT TO JOIN ANY BUSINESS BUT NOT TO PAY ANYTHING AND MAKE BILLION'S. BUT MOST NEGATIVE, AND CRAZY PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANY BUSINESS EVEN YOUR OWN BUSINESS YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD TO MAKE MONEY? AM I RIGHT OR NO? LET ME ASK ALL OF U DUMB ASS PEOPLE HERE. LETS JUST SAY U DO HAVE JOB PAY'S YOU $10.00 PLUS HRS. A DAY. SO NOW U ARE GOING TO TELL ME IF U HAVE AN JOB THAT MEANS U ARE NOT GOING TO WORK AT ALL AND YOUR SO CALL BOSS IS GOING TO PAY U BILLION'S A MONTH OR IS UR BOSS GOING TO PAY ALL OF YOUR BILLS. EVEN ALL OF U DUMB ASS PEOPLE HERE HAVE YOUR OWN BUSINESS. NOW U ARE GOING TO TELL ME U ARE NOT GOING TO WORK HARD AND MAKE CRAZY MONEY A MONTH. NOW THAT IS A SCAM. U KNOW WHAT TO ALL OF U NEGATIVE PEOPLE IN HERE. I AM AN IBO LESS THEN 2 MONTHS AND I DO LOVE AMWAY GLOBAL AND PLUS I AM MAKING GOOD MONEY AND I EVEN LOST 15 LBS. LESS THEN 2 WEEKS. NOW WHAT ARE U GOING TO SAY ABOUT THE PRODUCTS. OH YA 1 LAST THING TO ALL DUMB ASS TALKING SH*T ABOUT AMWAY IS ALL U NEED TO GET SOME HELP AND THERAPY. AND THIS WORLD IF U DON'T WORK HARD U WONT SURVIVE. QUIXTAR/AMWAY GLOBAL IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE ########11111111111111. GO ORLANDO MAGIC'S.... AND TO ALL IBO'S FROM AMWAY GLOBAL SEE YOU GUYS ON THE PAID PRIVET ISLAND BABY.YAAA

jerry   georgia

12:09pm on Sunday, June 14th, 2009

Like i said before working is what you have to do and quixtar is a legtimate business. My neighbor down the street is a diamond and he didnt become one without mentors and one person in his downline. He did this with plenty people and having meetings for his people. He may have done better if he had done taproot instead of goin 22 wide and people in each line. But he makes over $ 1,000,000 not including a wonderful size bonus. He also gets to go to Disney World for freee only having to opoay for the hotel and the whole park gets cleared for only IBO's that qualify for the trip. This is a wonderful business and people with any sense would join. But the average american does not have any sense and thats why foreigners like Indians come over here and rock the business. One thing about this business is that you have to change your mindset for it to work. Thank You and have a good quixtar day.

Rakesh Ganeriwala   Boulder, CO

11:38pm on Saturday, June 13th, 2009 

Okay, I believe that Quixtar might be legal and a legitimate form of business, but it is a cult and makes false promises of wealth and fortune. Any person with common sense can tell you that businesses do not make money buy paying people. This means that while it is possible to make money with these multi-level marketing schemes, the chances are slim to none. For every 1 person that makes it in Quixtar, 99 will get screwed. Quixtar sells similar products that you can find at Walmart or Sam's Club, yet they sell them at a much higher price. Again, common sense will tell you this is bogus. Quixtar executives are nothing but liers and should be charged with slander for all the false claims they make. I went to a few Quixtar meetings where the speakers claimed this would be the wave of the future. Well, Quixtar has been around for a decade and Amway Global has been around for over half a century, even longer than Walmart and Sam's Club. Yet, which companies are doing better? Once again, use common sense. Idiots that fall for the Quixtar scheme can only hope that they can convince others to be as stupid as they were, in hopes that they might be able to make a small profit from all their wasted effort into this useless business. I've heard people tell me that they make huge salaries from Quixtar which will continue for the rest of their lives, yet they still attend numerous conferences, continue with their full time day jobs, and live no differently than the average American. Use common sense again.

Joe   Texas

3:16pm on Friday, June 5th, 2009 

Hi J.O. from New York.

I don't spend a lot of time here. Maybe a few minutes in a week.

J.O. said "You are judging a business and efforts of tons of people based ONLY on your failure. "

Joe says: no, I am giving my opinion based on Amway's own numbers and from my personal experience and observations. Amway says the average income of an IBO is only $115 a month. And the number of people who reach platinum is less than 1% of all IBO's.

J.O. said: I didn't make to med school, that doesn't mean being a doctor is not good, it means it wasn't for me

Joe says: But medical school didn't recruit you and tell you that you could retire early and be rich. And they didn't tell you that buying books and attending class would guarantee your success.

J.O. says: perhaps that's why u didnt make it cuz u spend too much time on yourself and not helping other people as the business teach you.

Joe says: Nice tapespeak. How do IBO's "help" people? By selling them dreams that they cannot achieve? By recruiting them into a business where failure is almost guaranteed? By selling them cd's and functions that do not work? How do you help people? I help my community and church. What do IBO's do? Stalk people at malls and attend brain washing seminars?

J.O   New York

12:50pm on Friday, June 5th, 2009

This Joe guy really has a lot to say. uhn?? How much time u have to spend all this energy talking bad about something that didn't work for you! Certain things work for some people and not for others; don't make a foul of yourself. You are judging a business and efforts of tons of people based ONLY on your failure. I didn't make to med school, that doesn't mean being a doctor is not good, it means it wasn't for me. Instead of spend your time deceiving people, go find something that it's good for you, or perhaps that's why u didnt make it cuz u spend too much time on yourself and not helping other people as the business teach you. You are too concentrated on the money part and not in your growth as a human being which will eventually lead to a financial freedom. Im really glad it didn't work for you, so now that u found that out move on with your life and don't get too caught up on what quixtar is doing. If it's not good why do you keep yourself involved making comments about it?

Joe   Texas

4:23pm on Tuesday, June 2nd, 2009 

Airing nice commercials and owning the Orlando Magic is great! It's great for the owners of Amway. It has nothing to do with the individual IBO. BOB, it's good that you have a successful friend in Amway. But did you see proof of success or are you taking your friend's word for it? If you were to add up your friend's downline income versus expenses, what would you find? A loss more than likely.

B.O.B   KANSAS

1:12pm on Tuesday, May 26th, 2009 

I first heard about "Q" in college. Just like any other new marketing plan, I did not listen and kept on with life.I wanted to see someone's bank account, their check, some type of proof. Well, now I'm kicking myself in the butt. The system works! My upline, a personal friend, is doing it big, which is why I became an IBO. You have to know the right people, just like with anythings else in life. I'm currently trying to get into med school, a couple houndred dollars on the side will help. For the non-believers out there, if it's proof you are looking for, I suggested to all that you pay close attention to commercials on t.v.; oh and the NBA Orlando Magic, who are currently in the NBA playoffs, look closely at the name of the Arena they play in! :) Now if that's a scam, then we are all screwed! Thanks for taking your time to read my response.
p.s. B.O.B-business over bullsh*#.

Tessa   Canada

6:33am on Tuesday, May 26th, 2009 

As someone who humored a good friend and tried the "Energy Drinks", I have not tasted something so awful in my entire life. And then I looked at the ingredients. Horrible. This stuff is as bad for you as guzzling a Big Gulp is, and it's advertised like it's healthy food. If the products were half decent I'm sure that Amway/Quixtar's would have at least one leg to stand on.

jerry   georgia

7:21pm on Monday, May 25th, 2009 

Quixtar is NOT a scam i repeat quixtar is NOT a scam.If you want to make money you have to WORK for it. It's not just going to come easily. In this business you can make more than $1,000,000 a year. And whenn you become damond you get a diamond ring. This is a really great business that is fun and you get to go on lots of trips. If quixtar was really a scam major companies like Circuit City and Office Depot would not be a partner store. I do agree with Bill beccause he makes lots of sense. So if i were you i would join Quixtar like I did

Sarah   Trinidad

12:29am on Sunday, May 24th, 2009 

to all the negative people out there, no one is asking you to this, if you think it sucks, thats your opinion, my upline made platinum in three months helped me to go plantinum in five, only because i slacked off some weeks, he is now two years in the business and qualifying for emerald, and would have done it sooner, but had a personal problem.....and he just turned twenty three.The cds the books i dont mind buying them, it beats buying papers and other junk literature.....

Former LTD   usa

5:02pm on Friday, May 22nd, 2009 

I come from a background of business classes. Military. Computers. Success. I tried this out for 6 months cause they sold me at first. This is what I have to say about amway. Amway global is not that bad at all really as long as you want to sell products.

Now on LTD... That was the biggest waste of time in my life. First of all new IBO's That got into ltd thought they somehow knew more than people that wernt IBO's and that they were better than other people and they defend something they have really no idea about. Some of the LTD IBO's couldn't even tell me what an FAA point was. Now Amway is a good company but the teams need a lot of work. As of right now their pretty much BS, Their training materials like the A/QI/IS/F BS needs lots of work. You guys know the more LTD IBO's get in the more larry winters and group get richer off of the Materials. Can you imagine. LTD is a scam, I'm checking out BWW later so I can't comment on that one yet. Amway global is a good business in my eyes but not the teams.

ashley   texas

12:24pm on Friday, May 22nd, 2009 

all i got to say is that if you take a shower than why not buy a product were you either way have to buy it somewhere else but difference is your geting paid for it .. quixtar is awesome .. not only in the knowledge of how to run a business things i never learned in college .. tell me were in a business you take those 4 basic years of college and make the money you need for a living in less than a year .. and tell me how come doctors decide to quixtar .. if they have all the money they need to survive .. easy cause one thing is having the money and one thing is enjoying it .. i see the money with my own eyes .. i'm practically wasting my time right now saying this .. but before you speak anything negative about it .. remember if you haven't even tried it than don't even start saying by what you hear cause what you hear till this day i bet hasn't paid your bills and for those that have been in it .. than honey you didn't try hard enough.. quixtar doesn't work .. you make it work .. the business is there and its given to you but its up to you how you manage your own business .. so if you take a shower everyday than you should make money out of yourself

Joe   Texas

12:42pm on Monday, May 18th, 2009 

Mel-dog, I am calling BS on your story. First of all, there is no Quixtar anymore. The company changed it's name officially to Amway Global. Secondly, bonuses are paid out after the month is over if you met the PV requirements. Your story doesn't add up, but that seems to be very common among IBO's. I wonder why that is?

Mel-dog   Richmond Va

10:50pm on Friday, May 15th, 2009 

I read so much about Quixtar/Amway everything I read is not good. Im being recruited to join right now the guy that is recruiting me is saying that his group is different. Im in a business called NMC and before I joined I googled them and there was not one negative remark as a matter of fact I joined last we and I have made 700 dollars already. The guy thats recruiting me for Quixtar says I will make more has anybody honestly made more than 700 in 2 weeks by just selling product in Quixtar??????

Joe   Texas

12:03pm on Wednesday, May 13th, 2009 

Res, how can you be an independent business owner be a part of a team? That's a bunch of hogwash.

And comparing your Amway tools to college is simply ridiculous. You state that you do not sponsor or take standing order as it is optional then you go onto say you are sponsoring and helping people. Can't you get your story right? Also, people go to college to learn. Amway is a business. Yes, some training is helpful, but how much training do you need to buy and sell products, and share the idea with others?

Colleges do not recruit you by saying you will retire early and wealthy. Amway does and for most people it is not true. Colleges also graduate about half or more of their students. Less than 1% of IBO's ever reach platinum.

Res   DMV

10:56pm on Tuesday, May 12th, 2009 

You are all wrong. The problem is you need to get on a business team and be mentored by the right people. I was in the business and quit because I was not on the right team. Now, I am thriving. I have the freedom to choose my team. I do not recruit and I do not do standing order unless I have the money to because it is NOT a requirement but an option. I don't understand why you people complain about ignorant things. When you go to College, you have to pay for training. The standing order and functions are your "training". Clearly you didn't get it. And yes, you do have to do the work. You can not say that you did everything someone else told you to do and it just didn't work. Okay, then as a business person step back and refocus. Work at a different angle. I am sponsoring business owners and have helped them make money right away. In addition, I did like 40 facials last week alone. When you want to go Diamond you don't complain about business meetings, and you certainly don't sit around running your mouth on the internet for free. Get paid. Go Diamond or stay at home.

Joe   Texas

6:14pm on Monday, May 11th, 2009 

Max, it's nice that you can earn $100 a month while in college. If you work 2 hours a night as you say, which may be 10 hours per week, you are earning $2.50 per hour. Wouldn't you be better off getting a job that pays $10 a hour? Also, you did not mention if you have standing order or attend functions, but if you do, then you are likely netting a loss at the end of the month when these things are factored in. For many who "fail" in this business, it is not for lack of effort, but too much baggage associated with the name "Amway" that is the bigger problem.

Max   New York

3:56pm on Sunday, May 10th, 2009

I am an IBO. My friend recruited me and the concept makes sense. Obviously not everyone is ambitious as others. No one said quit your job either. I am a college student and if you just manage to make a simple $100 extra why is that so bad. I think its crazy that everyone thinks it such a scam. Of course no one within the company would say negative things about it. I personally like it but you would never hear anyone from any other company that there own products aren't good or to go buy from somewhere else. Just keep your jobs, there isn't anything wrong with making a little extra cash on the side. No one said go for an 80K salary through this. It's just some motivation to help you get started. I'm perfectly fine where I am and as a college student I don't mind the extra cash. Two hours a night for this would not hurt, but you don't have to give up on life just because you want so much money. You indeed, make it how you want, if you don't have the ambition or time to do the work don't demean it. Look into it really if anything, my friend makes 4K/month and he does what he is told simple as that, and he didn't lose any friends, tears, or blood lol AND hes still in college doing his thing along side me. People just take it easy, take it to the mind not to the heart, its a simple concept that tends to work. RELAX

Big D   Earth

2:33pm on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 

I love how people like Joe and others who know what a sham quixtar is back up their claims with intelligent posts, factual information, and personal experiences where the people for quixtar just make stock blanket statements like "it is a great company, you just need to work hard" my favorite was the guy who called someone a dream stealer WTF?

John   Ga

11:48am on Tuesday, May 5th, 2009 

I for one have read all the comments on this page now here is my opinion on quixtar. I think it is the biggest scam. I was an IBO and did everything my upline advised me to do EVERYTHING. I attended functions, bought cd's, sponsored people, and ordered product to the tune of 300 pv every month but my pin level was way above that.I did not expect something for nothing I am a business owner and have a very successful business outside of quixtar so I know what it takes to make a business profit. Well I for one did not even come close to the glory and riches that I heard about. It is funny to me that people will defend quixtar but are probably not making anything to speak of. That is why if I ask you defenders what you made last year you would tell me it was none of my business or if you told me what you made you would not tell me what you spent.Come on people wake up and smell the coffee your big wigs make that big money you hear about on the Cd's you buy and the functions you attend. Lets see here atleast $40 a month on Cd's your local function tickets cost you somewhere around $20 and your major function tickets costs you somewhere in the neighborhood of $150. Then if you were like me and do 300 pv you are spending $1000 a month on your order. Now my degree is not in math but I know that $1000 a month on an order calculates to $12,000 a year and that does not include tickets and cds. Even if you are only doing he minimum 100pv that is still in the ball park of $300 a month which is $3600 a yr and that is without cds and tickets also. So people yall need to sell you stuff to someone who does not know this business I for one know this business in and out from being an IBO for a very long time. Now do me a favor and ask your upline how all those people, Lennon Ledbetter, Dexter Yeager and other made their money. Come on dont be scared of your upline ask the question.

Joe   Texas

1:11pm on Monday, May 4th, 2009 

LOL, yes, lets' talk about shopping from home. Shopping from home can be convenient, but it costs more because of shipping costs. Thus Amway products are already expensive then you add shipping plus you don't get the products right away. And... You still need to go to the store unless you don't buy bread, eggs, and other perishables. And you guys call me negative. I am not negative. I just have an opposing viewpoint, which I have backed up. Most IBO's lose money or make little for their efforts. Why it's negative to speak the truth is a mystery to me.

bruce   long island

5:50pm on Sunday, May 3rd, 2009 

well here is how i feel i dont give a damn what anyone thinks this business rocks thats first of all. I dont go to functions i dont get on standard order and i dont buy cds i do however buy the products which are outstanding expensive yes but the products outside in stores like the water you drink are horrible. First of all poland spring deer park and great bear are disgusting full of contaminants and bacteria mercury ever taste it really gross now the perfect water yes a bit expensive its out of this world. I am really not an energy drink kind of guy dont go for that but things like the laundry detergent and dishdrops amazing no store product can top it. As for this business yes it dont work for alot of people but i have been in this business for 10 months exactly i only made 17k now is this good well lol im not rich but its extra income i didnt have i spent about 4k around 400 a month so i made about 13k not bad for a business that has so many positive people the truth is misery loves company and so many negative people in this world. I do however feel sorry for people that work in jobs which are prisoners of work lets see 1 they will neevr make more then the boss 2 when they retire it wont be till at least 65-70 if you were for the city you get half your money in a job you can easily get laid off sad that people have to work for someone i for one do sadly work in a job pays well but cant wait to not work for anyone and just do this business. Does a job truly care about you? answer no when you go to the store do they care about you? answer no in this business we get money back for buying the products remember dont like everything i like about 12 things alot which i buy anyway and for all the people that say its a pyramid lol what a joke take a good look people do you work in a job well your in a pyramid WAKE UP the jokes on you i sponsored 4 people out of my 17 downlines and 3 make triple what i make at least why they have more time and work harder. The reason why most fail in life is because they are lazy and fat sit by the tv and watch winners succeed while they just waste their sorry life away. I dont even have a tv because i choose not to all negative anyway and besides what better way to spend your time then reading of course msot dotn know how to read or hate reading which is probably why they still work for someone and most are broke the truth is network marketing is good for the person who sweats and busts their butt and dont have no fear are positive all the time because the truth is if you want something bad enough no one can stop you but you one final thought people say they lost their spouses by doing this lol that is hilarious maybe you lost your husbands because you were lazy, boring, or quite frankly blaming things on this when the truth is the marriage was crumbling way before you got into this what pathetic people in the world keep working for someone just remember when you are financially free i will be up at say 11am what time will you get up hmm 5am to go work for someone pity the person who doesnt at least want to make extra money dont have to be this business but some sort of network marketing business

Marques   Columbus, Ohio

4:58am on Sunday, May 3rd, 2009 

Here it is, Amway Global is not a fake, scam nor is it a joke as joe and others say,it helps people shop at home when they don't WANT to go out to do so and be stressing about managing time and money thru there days on earth. Theirs always a negative person in everything that is possible in this world. You just have to understand that! but don't live your life listening to negative things because your going to become negative and your going to achieve negatively in life because you think thats the way it is and it's not, failure is one of the things that help you grow because someday you are giong to get tired of failing and your going to start listening to the ones who failed once and fast forward their life to not fail anymore because they know when and how to be successful and thats what amways about their about helping people with all types of backgrounds, color, sex, and ethnicity this is the only thing that allows you to be successful as you want to be and it doesnt discriminate or hate or tell you that your not smart enough to do this like your boss would at your job. Here at amway everyone has a privilege to be successful and you dont have to be filthy rich in order to call your self successful you can just be an average JOE that wants to pay all their bills on time or in advance, now you can't do that working for someone because they are going to make you change into what they want you to be not what you want to be or how much you want and with amway you make as much as you want if you work at it like your doing already "working for it" but for a industrial setting, and I know you dont want to be slaving for some corporate person who is someday going to pick up and leave you behind and find some other negative minded people who can't seem to think for there self or know how to be INDEPENDENT and pay them cheaper! Now your out on a limb!Amway shows you how to be INDEPENDENT not dependent. And amway is Resession Free because they have no Loans thru the banks that might forclose or seize them and they dont depend on the stock market to make money because they have smart IBOs like myself making extra money on the side of things and creating business for partners and the exclusive companies. And i paid 160 dollars to start and i made that back in a week by selling Nutrilite to people who care about their health and Artistry to people who know and love the skin their in everyday that loves Artistry,also SA8 detergents the No.#1 brand leading for laundry usage. Look I brought this nice t-shirt from hanes and i told a few of my friends to buy it so we can all match and they did! do you think hanes cut me a check for referring them to buy those shirts? NO they didnt! So with Amway Now i can get paid for creating business to other business and you dont change nothing in your life, its all on the Individual and what they want or looking for! so your basically not doing anything that you are not doing already and thats shopping except your getting paid for it, by buying stuff for your own self or telling people to buy from you at you own discrestion. and that 48 dollar case of water is well worth it because its not your regular spring or "tap" water its Perfect water Empowered by a premium infused MBO. I uses a 15 step manufacturing process to ensure purity at its best and i gaurantee that I enjoy it my team mates enjoy it on my football team The Ohio State unversity Buckeyes! this water is amazing it actually helps you hydrate and helps you gain your breath back during hard workouts so 48 bucks is worth every bit of it Joe you may want to reconsider your resources. and I also went to a function in Greensboro, N.C and their were 10,000 people their attending this, you mean to tell me joe that all those peolpe miss the same message you recieve from Amway that its a scam and all that other B.S.!! because i know i am very intelligent working on my masters in medicine and soon phD. and i Know this system is great for people to live on and with and this is longterm unlike your mom and pop's stores or traditional businesses. and believe me 10,000 brains are better than one Joe and his Advocates.

Vic   B.C.

3:48pm on Saturday, May 2nd, 2009 

lets say quickstar is immune to the bad economy.
other people are not. quickstar makes profit from selling merchandise. who purchases these items?
surely not people that were just laid off.

Renee   Michigan

12:09pm on Friday, May 1st, 2009 

ooookkkkaaaayyyyyy first of all i am 16 years old my parents have been doing this business for before i was born it is hard and you cant not expect to not work at it. you cant make money doing nothing... they dont have to wake up at the crack of dawn evrey moring and they dont have any probloms supporting me my 14 year old brother or my 20 year old sister that still lives at home you can only go up in this business no we are not rich...not yet

Joe   Texas

7:54pm on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 

Hi Rev. Bill.

I was in Quixtar. I didn't expect something for nothing. But what I received was nothing for something. I did everything my upline advised/ordered me to do. I counseled and my group "exceeded" the parameters my upline taught. Yet being right around the 7500 level, I was not making money. The expenses of the business such as standing order and functions took away all my profits. When I questioned my upline about it, I was told I did not work hard enough. I did the math and realized that just about anything less than diamond would be worthless, and even going diamond was no guarantee that income will keep coming in.

Since you identify yourself as "Reverend", I wonder if you teach this to your congregation?

Rev. Bill McMillan   Sodus, MI

7:07pm on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 

I am an IBO. I love the business. Is it tough?? Yes. Is it worth the effort? Absolutely. Having read the negative comments herein, I can almost guarantee you that people like "Joe from Texas" and the other naysayers are people who expected to get something for nothing. That is not how a capitalist society works. That's how a communist society works.

If you want Quixtar or any other MLM business to work, you have to invest time, money, sweat, tears, prayer, and, yes, even a few friendships. People who are saying they lost their spouses because of this business are hiding the truth ... the business was probably the straw that broke the camel's back, but the underlying problems were there all along.

If you want to naysay, go ahead. In America you have that right. But if you consider yourself an educated person, you owe it to yourself to get ALL THE FACTS before you make a judgment decision.

Bill   Alberta

3:33pm on Saturday, April 25th, 2009 

Unless you are single with ample spare time and do not mind losing a lot of friends..... STAY AWAY from Quixtar.

My personal experience on the business side of Quixtar was very bad. I found exactly as mentioned that the only way to make money was on the 'Tools' and if you chose not to purchase them then you could forget about getting any support from your upline.

When I ran the numbers something in small print caught my eye. It stated that you could not make any more money than what you yourself purchased for product. As an example, to get 100PV and be eligible to receive the 'bonus' you had to spend $300 on average. So the most you could make was $300 in a month.

To make more then the cost of your purchases back you had to reach the Platinum level which then gave you a percentage of the money charged for the 'Tools' purchased by your lines.

We had a business built up with 3 lines below us, 4-6 deep (all doing their 100PV) and our biggest cheque in a month was $100. It did not even cover our 'Tools' and seminar costs.....

When we stopped purchasing the Tools and products because we could not afford to anymore our phone calls to our upline were ignored. Left me with a sour taste in our mouths.... Especially when our 'friends' in the business stopped talking to us.....

Scott   Ft. Lauderdale

2:38pm on Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 

I joined Amway years and years ago, then quicky got out because, 1) I could get the same products at the store 2)I never heard from my sponsor again. That did not alienate me to Network Marketing though as I am involved with a company that I enjoy, has a unique product and I still am in touch with my sponsor on a regular basis. Just due your research and find a company that appeals to you and what you want. Network Marketing does work but it take patience and persistence.

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:14pm on Sunday, April 19th, 2009 

Its not worth at all! Products are marked at high price, they are way expensive, you can buy better stuff at same price. Moreover you have to run after people to make them members and most people tend to run away from you.

Anil   Lousiana

12:00am on Friday, April 17th, 2009 

I am an IBO since last March. I don't know what others say but i am finding it real awesome.

Joe   Texas

12:27pm on Monday, April 13th, 2009 

CAMIAM, NY, the Amway systems can stop a winner from winning. The Amway compensation plan is designed for failure. When you see this 6-4-2 plan, you have the majority of 78 IBOs making peanuts and one platinum making $40K. Factor in standing order and seminars and you have massive financial losses for the group.

This is the business you think is so wonderful? BTW, how do you steal someone's dream?

ryan   suffolk county

5:02pm on Sunday, April 12th, 2009 

I have been an ibo for 11 months now must say I know what its like to say it takes time but starting finally to see good results. I truly say when people talk negative about something they more then likely arent succeeding in their present life probably listening to a couple of their broke friends which I feel their is nothing wrong with that particular way but for me i dont let negative people get in my way of success. They teach you in school to go get a job wonder why they dont teach you to have business ownership hmm. The truth is as long as you work for someone by the way that is a pyramid big time working in a job you will never get to your potential in life and just be comfortable ask yourself is this what i choose to be if so great happy for you but its funny i had one person who insulted my intelligence by saying well i think its too hard and not real so i said would you like to see my last check he said sure it was $2,150 not rich lol but not bad either I told him but I told him after he decided he wanted to do this that I decided not to have him on my team because I felt he wasnt serious about the business which was the best decision I ever made. I really dont care who wants to do it or not my mind is like whos next because remember all it takes is 4 or 5 really serious guys or girls like myself and I will be on my way. I know our business will be around for a long long time no overhead no debt wow and I laugh at all the people who downgrade us when they probably still work in a job and make less then 75k what a joke or better yet not working at all. People will always try to bash people especially people who are successful they are called the world wide whiners they have nothing better to do then knock people just because they tried it and didnt succeed or better yet lol never ever did it another joke. Do what you like in life because you only get one chance for me this was the best thing I ever did in life and yes i do work in a job and get paid really well but thats not what I am excited about its this business because maybe it will take me 5-10years more but I will get there that I can take to the bank and besides I am only 26 plenty of time good luck in your jobs and i wish everyone success in life

CAMIAM   NY

6:40pm on Thursday, April 9th, 2009 

What I got from all this is nobody can stop a quitter from quitting and nobody can stop a winner from winning. Joe, Texas you better do something productive, you dream stealer.

zuly   newark

8:55am on Wednesday, April 8th, 2009 

i been with quixtar no more then a month and so far just by selling couple of products ive made money in profit only... i really dont put time in this bc of my full time job in the airport.. i really dont think that this is bull.. i just think that it takes time... u cant just expect to get money for free or without investing money for ur self.. if u working for someone else why not work for urelf!! if u openning a business u need a down payment n u risking the fact that u might or might not loose business... here is the same just in its paste n not RISKING LOTS OF MONEY TO LOOSE.. beeing in this have help my relationshit with my man n also have help us see things in differ way... helped us act differ... thanks to the fuction of april 3,4,5.... n if this is not for me is bc i choose not too but will still be thankfull bc it tought me lot n made lots of good friends from all over the country....

Ge In The Hood   Edmonton

12:39pm on Tuesday, April 7th, 2009 

I have purchased items from Quixtar and find the delivery packaging absolutely horrendous. They will pack ONE bottle of vitamins in wads on paper, then surround it in "popcorn" and then stick it in a box that could hold one hundred bottles. What a threat to the environment. They do this ALL the time, no one puts any reasonable thought to what they are doing when sending the products out from the warehouse. Another thing, the "partner stores" are a crock. I had a nightmare trying to get a charge reversed on my credit card. They never sent the product out, charged my card and then I had to prove to BOTH THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY & THE PARTNER STORE that I didn't receive the item - after I had canceled the order one month prior. When I contacted Quixtar, they apologized for my"unfortunate" experience and then passed the buck to the "partner store". Basically, I am trying to support someones business venture, but have been loath to buy the Amway products after discovering that no one really cares about the customer after the order has been placed - it's all about getting the business and then as with any other global conglomerate, there is no customer service afterwards.

KRYSTAL   PITTSBURGH

11:48pm on Monday, April 6th, 2009 

JOE, YEAH I UNDERSTAND THAT. AS FOR THE WAY THE "STACKING" GOES, ITS A QUICK WAY TO GET YOUR DOWNLINE GROWING. THIS IS YOUR JOB SHADOWING TIME. HERE YOU LEARN WHAT TO, HOW TO DO IT AND HOW TO MAKE IT WORK. ONCE YOU FEEL THAT YOUR READY TO BE ON YOUR OWN, AND START YOUR OWN TEAM, THEN YOU START YOUR OWN INDEPENDENT 2ND LEG. ALL THOSE CD'S ARE BUSINESS TOOLS AND TAX RIGHT OFFS. THEY TELL YOU THAT DAY ONE. AND ALSO DAY ONE, THAT ITS NOT MANDATORY. MY BOYFRIEND LIKES THE CD'S, I PERSONALLY LIKE THE BOOKS. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE SAME BOOKS YOU WOULD GET AT THE SELF HELP AREA IN THE BOOK STORE.
I'M THRILLED WITH THE CHANGES THAT I HAVE SEEN IN MY BOYFRIEND. HE'S SO MUCH MORE CONFIDENT AS WELL AS AWARE OF WHAT HE WEARS AND ACTS LIKE NOW. (HE'S AN OUTDOORSY GUY.) LIKE I SAID BEFORE NOT EVERYONES GOING TO AGREE WITH THE SYSTEM AND THE LEGALITY OF IT OR WHAT NOT. AND LIKE I'VE TO MY PARENTS MANY TIMES BEFORE, IF I END UP LOSING IN THE END, I'LL CUT MY LOSSES AND TAKE IT AS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE. BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE DOING GOOD AND NOT IN THE RED.

Joe   Texas

12:23pm on Monday, April 6th, 2009 

Krystal, it's good that your upline gave you some CD's. But eventually, you will be an upline and then you'll be buying them to give away? Either that or your upline will "teach" you that a "serious" business owner must buy their own cd's.

Also, it's nice that your "team" sponsors IBOs under you. But did you know that stacking, as it's called, is the least profitable way to build an Amway business?

There have been some changes to Amway from ten years ago, but one thing has not changed. Nearly all IBO's lose money. IBOs on the system lose the most. That has not changed.

Krystal   Pittsburgh

4:40am on Monday, April 6th, 2009 

alright, so i read alot of these comments and just like everything, there are two sides. i am currently an IBO. just signed up in december. At first i went along with it just because my boyfriend was hooked but we just got back from richmond virginia where many ppl from my team as well as 25,000 other IBO's got together. i went there not knowing what to expect.I'm glad i went. The people on here talking about their upline, saying that they made them buy cd's and made them do other things obviously had sh*ty sponsers! I love my team! They are the most sincere ppl i think i have ever met. I laughed out loud when i read about how it broke up people's marriages. obviously there has to be more to the story. it's building teamwork in mine. our upline gave us free cd's and books were always there if we had a question. our team even hangs out, without talking about "the plan".

The plan itself has even changed. the model is now based on tap root. where unlike the original plan where your on you own to go out and search for new IBO's, your team puts people under you so you have immediate profit. i loved the fact that if you start up and don't like how it works or you change your mind or get scared away by sites like these then you can get you starting up money completely refunded! With XS, we go out and sell it to public we make it fun! We sponser our friends who ride motorcross and play hockey. For those who said that u need to have an ibo # to buy stuff are full of sh*t. LOG ON to the site... www.quitxtar.com and shop, add it to your cart and checkout. when it asks for an ibo #, there's a button to click if u dont have one. those points you just earned are going to be gifted to a qualified ibo... but i'm not going further into that.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, right or wrong, who knows who cares. If it ends up flopping on me, guess what? i made some good friends, got to go on some free out of state trips and had fun doing it.

Rafael Marquez   Florida

4:27pm on Tuesday, March 24th, 2009 

This is great!

I am an IBO... and I've been one for at least a couple of months... total cash thus far = 0$.

Why?

There is no advantage to the consumer in buying AMWAY / QUIXTAR products if there is a WALMART (or even worst 2 WALMARTS) around the corner. Quixtar products are not the cheapest in the market and to put it in simple terms... any business which you need to depend on some scheme like structure to make money only complicates "more" the complicated world of business.

I have not quit on trying but I believe it is simpler to sell when you have the upper hand... (i.e. a cheaper product to sell).

jeremy   minnesota

11:29am on Sunday, March 22nd, 2009 

i was in this stupid f---ing quixstar about 5 yrs ago it ruined my relationship with my now x wife, its a total waste of time and lots of money, she pretty much forced me to be in it saying i would be retired in 3 to 5 yrs, ha! the only thing i got retired from was her and her obsessed parents that were in it to, thank god!, i dreaded going to those meetings and having to speak in public, buying all the those stupid books and cds,,get rich quick! no way loose every thing quick is what it was.

Luis   Chicago

3:13am on Sunday, March 22nd, 2009 

All I know is that because of this scheme or whatever you "true believers" call it, I'm lonely now because about 5 months ago my girlfriend of 2 years left me because she needed and i quote "realize a dream" WHAT???? what dream she started to do it 2 months before we broke up and because she went to those stupid meetings and conventions they brainwashed her into believing in something that she didn't believe in before we believed in having a family and living together>>>>THAT'S A DREAM!!!!!!!!!! not that crap of being a diamond or whatever you morons call it

Now if that's not a cult then i don't know what is

ALL I KNOW IS THAT I MISS HER EVERYDAY THAT SHE HAS BEEN GONE AND IT'S ALL THANKS TO YOU QUIXTAR LAMES WHO HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH THEIR TIME

and yeah i have a job and that's how i met her by working hard like i was taught not by getting money fast you lames

Barb   Cincinnati

11:42pm on Saturday, March 21st, 2009 

Joe, I wasn’t really trying to prove anything. I just don’t understand the mindset that I see here from you and several others.

Of course tax-wise, it’s always prudent to show as little business income as possible in order to save as much tax as possible. You sound like someone who would understand that paper losses are not the same as actual losses so I probably don’t need to explain in detail. I’m sure you already know that some things are deductible to a business that aren’t deductible to an individual. For example, purchasing a car through a business is a deductible expense but the same car purchased for the same amount of money with the same loan payment and the same gas and maintenance expense, is not deductible to an individual. It doesn’t mean the business lost money on the car. In fact, it’s the opposite – the business lost money on paper in order to save money on the car. The individual purchasing the car is the one who spent money that was never recouped.

As far as buying products from Walmart and Costco. I’ve never been to Costco. I understand you buy a membership, purchase items in bulk, and you never get any of your $ back. I do shop at Walmart – they’ve never sent me a check at the end of a month. And, neither of these places carries Amway products. Amway products are great quality and economical. One box of Amway’s SA8 laundry detergent may cost twice what a brand in a store costs but it lasts several times longer making the per-use cost similar and possibly better depending on which brand you compare. It also gets my clothes looking clean, smelling clean, it doesn’t seem to damage them in any way, and it doesn’t trigger any of my skin sensitivities.

While, as you pointed out, I may not be saving a ton of gasoline because I still must drive to a store for eggs and milk, it’s awfully nice to have heavy boxes with detergent, dishwasher soap, body shampoo, and dog food arrive at my doorstep. Maybe since you’re not a girl, it doesn’t matter so much to you how heavy the items are in your grocery cart or how many trips you have to make back-and-forth from the car to the house to unload. It matters to me.

I also don’t understand why some people claim to have stocked up on products they didn’t want and didn’t intend to sell. Why would anyone do that? Especially with Quixtar when any customer can go to the website, place an order, pay with a credit card and have it shipped directly to their own house.

And why are people buying tapes/CDs they don’t want? Don’t buy them. If you want them but can’t afford them, borrow them from someone upline. And if you do CHOOSE to buy them, deduct them off your tax return. There’s no law that says you can’t deduct every dollar you earn – as long as the deductions are legitimate.

For me it came down to we were going to spend the money on these products anyway. Why not spend it in a way that puts a little money back into our pocket, gives us a vehicle for deducting expenses that normally wouldn’t be deductible on an individual tax return, and gives us quality products that we like using?

I know I’m getting waaaaaaaayy long here but there’s one more point I’d like to make. Many here say that Quixtar/Amway is a pyramid. I don't see how it could be. It has happened that a person downline can earn much more than a person upline. A person downline may be at a higher level than a person upline, too; for example, a diamond may have an upline who’s only a direct. IBO level and/or income are NOT based on your place in the line – it’s based on the work you’ve done and the results you’ve achieved.

brenda   texas

9:01pm on Friday, March 20th, 2009 

I don't think Quixtar really works, why charge you to be a member, get books, cd's and attend meetings(conventions, etc..) when starting the system if supposedly this system will help you make money. They should start charging for all this things once the IBO starts making the system really work to prove that the money will come from selling, consuming and getting others to work this system.

Joe   Texas

8:19pm on Thursday, March 19th, 2009 

Barb, did you report a next gain on your taxes?

If all you did was buy some products, but attended a function, it is very likely that you ended up with a net loss.

Also, because Amway products on average cost much more than Walmart or Costco, you could have saved a lot of money simply by not shopping thru Amway. Sure, you can save a few trips to the store by shopping online, but you still need the gas station and you still need to go to the market to buy fresh vegetables, eggs, bread, milk and meats.

So many IBO's claim they save money by shopping Amway but not one has been able to show evidence that it is true.

Barb   Cincinnati

12:55pm on Thursday, March 19th, 2009 

I'm curious about those of you who claim that IBOs at the bottom "lose" money. We were IBOs for many years. During that time all we did was purchase products we would have purchased anyway: toilet paper, deodorant, detergent, etc. Since we purchased them from our own business instead of someone else's, we got them at a reduced price. When we bought enough, we also got a check from the company. We clustered our purchases buying more in one month and none in the next so we could get the check. We would have bought these things anyway -- why not buy excellent, environmentally sound products at a discount and get money back? And, my stuff was delivered to my house. That sure beat going to the grocery or wherever to buy these things, cart them home and get no money back at the end of the month. So what makes you think we "lost" money? How is this not a good thing even if we never sold products? (Actually although we never solicited sales, but we did sell products because people heard we had Amway stuff and their products are great.) Several IBOs have told you they were never forced to buy tapes and CDs -- the only people who seem to think they were are people who never participated. We did CHOOSE to attend some of the functions. These were great fun. Plus, since we were business owners, the trips were tax-deductible. Ergo, we SAVED on taxes. Any other weekend away with my husband couldn't have done that! So how did we "lose"?

Cam   NY

10:38pm on Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 

Where do I start? I have been a legitimate business owner and am living the dream-MY dream, my thoughts,my marketing, my time, my passion and truly helping people for the last two and a half years. It's based on my endeavors to maintain my integrity,peace of mind, desire to serve others and love what I do. I had a client who had been consistently using my services for over a year,(I am in alternative therapies) and was warm and personable; we had many wonderful discussions as well as great success in maintaining good health. Six months into it he introduced me to Quixtar(he was an IBO for over a decade) I knew the history but decided to enter as a prosumer. I was given free cd's and books from his library, and they sat for awhile. long story short, I became an IBO 5 months later. He had decided to start really working the business after all this time and hooked up tightly with his upline. I was struggling with questions about economic environment and trying to recruit and sell to people who couldn't afford to get in on any level. I was unable to get any satisfactory answers and was finally told I should talk to my upline. My call on that suggestion was never returned, even though I was "sharp" and was going to take off in this business. (my open house was very successful) I also have lost this person as a client because every spare moment is taken up on building his business. But I was to give up my Sunday when he called and had health issues that needed urgent attention. I have seen this person begin the isolation process and clone themselves into mini-uplines, not making a move without their approval. How sad and scary. I could no longer afford to build two businesses and had to get off cd's and functions;I have not been harassed about it but now that the younger people have been recruited and full of starry eyed dreams, my age and wisdom are working against me. I'm not that easily duped and I believe thinking for ones-self critical in growing into a person with integrity and character. I don't hate anyone and have already witnessed how some in the business call us idiots for getting out, but I know what cult-like behavior is and have viewed it personally, as a matter of fact am just about to pay off the balance of it 5 months later from a major function. I was already living the dream of my own business, and am passionately and successfully doing so.

Rob   california

3:22pm on Monday, March 16th, 2009 

Every business is in some form a pyramid... CEO at the top that makes the most money and on down the line. Think about it. Government. Any independent business requires an investment and lots of time. Most people fail in all areas of business because of the lack of investments. The stock market makes money for some at the loss of others. Anybody with a desire to achieve can make a great living at this or any business plan. If this were an illegal business, wouldn't it have been shut down long ago? And now it is in their 50th year? Hummmmm

brian   nyc

10:44am on Monday, March 9th, 2009 

well this is just my opinion i think this is a fair business some people in life dont like doing things like this i laugh at one guy who said he only recruited 1 person in a year lol i recruit 2 people a week thats the easy part the hard part is working with people that are serious. You can call it what you like scam whatever but i know it works for me ive gone platinum finally took me 3 years and 34 days to be exact so everyone gets there eventually funny though if you follow the system. I agree people do make money off the cds and dvds and meetings but i for one dont buy much of those things i have a mind of my own so i dont spend alot in this business. It is true you make around $2,700 a month now which i finally saw in feb not alot but something i do work in a job and hope maybe 5 years from now i wont have to ill give it my best shot. I really love this business for 1 reason motivation makes you feel good about life especially with these tough times. I felt its better to be around people that are a bit positive then a group of moaning negatives all around you. People that are negative bring you down why be around these people they are like maggots anyway good luck to all

Joe   Texas

10:59am on Wednesday, March 4th, 2009

It is against Amway rules to be involved in another MLM. If Amway finds out you are in Avon, you may be terminated.

Aisha   Milwaukee, WI

12:22am on Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 

First I wanted to start off by saying, THIS IS NOT A SCAM! I am a IBO with Amway/Quixtar along with also selling Avon and doing other things. I love money! I have been selling Avon for about 2 1/2 years. I love it! I just started this business on February 17, 2009. I love it already! I am going to receive a check on the 15th of this month (March). I have already calculated my earnings. It is not much, but it is a start. I did not start off making money like this in Avon, but I am doing really good in it now. I used what I learned fron Avon and incorporated it in this business. It works! I do not have to buy cds or magazines or whatever. My upline provides all of those tools to me for free. All that I have done so far is recruited one person and switched some of my buying habits. (I bought some things) What can help, is to first look at it as getting a rebate check from Boston Store or what ever store. That's how I'm looking at it right now. It's better than not getting any thing back. Yes, some of the products are high. But, use you judgement, you're not going to buy everything from them, just some things that you feel are a deal or are really worth it. If you're going to sell it, then you should at least use some of it. Most businesses start off slow (in making money). So this is normal (the check). It's a start! You should have to invest something. No one goes into business without investing something, otherwise what are you going to get back from a free business. It wouldn't be a real business would it? How would they make their money? Now, this may not be for every one because God did not give us all the same talents. But, if you pray on it, like I did, then God will direct you in the right path. It either is going to be yes or no. What ever you decide to do in life, you should always ask God first. I am tring to put some of my best in this business without spending much. But that's what works for me! You may be different. I'm using my own judgement.

Joe   Texas

11:24am on Monday, March 2nd, 2009 

What's funny is how IBO's resort to criticizing people who do not agree with their views about
Amway, but they do not talk about actually running a business and making a profit.

Greg   SC

12:35pm on Sunday, March 1st, 2009 

You are the average of the 5 people you hang out with most. Does anyone want to argue about that? Who should you listen to? A person who is successful at what they do or someone who knows everything but has no success at all. Thank about it.

Brittney   South Dakota

5:53pm on Monday, February 23rd, 2009 

Those that have negative things to say about this business have no say...no experience...
i am an IBO.i encourage everyone to do this.it has changed my life.. All it takes is an effort! people put it off and since they think about it all the time, they think they arent making money.. but in reality, if you were out there making effort, you could easily be free in two-5 years.

Rey   Richardson

2:17pm on Monday, February 23rd, 2009 

Brian from Phoenix - Excellent posts dude. Its funny how these IBO's retort to criticism with hate and corny one liners. Nobody can make 1 strong argument in favor of this SCAM and yet they defend it like their life depended on it.
I hope someday the veil will be lifted from their eyes and they will be able to see this business for what it is - a GIANT scam.
Good luck duping people out of their money till then.

romy   nj

10:00pm on Saturday, February 21st, 2009 

Quickstar makes money from tapes and DVD's and their weekly meetings, and other devious means.In NJ, Essex County there is an Indian Mafia which runs the show. Stay away from them !!!!!!