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QTalk The World | 9:42am on Friday, October 31st, 2008  |
What most people do not understand is that Quixtar does allow many forums of advertising. There are pre-approved ads available, however, the most successful ads for us have been "open ended questions".
These are generic and cannot be tied to a particular business, therefore, you can market them anywhere. Be creative and be successful. It is better for people to ask "You" what you are doing instead of feeding them curiosity questions.
If you want to make money in this business then you must RETAIL products to businesses. When you start earning extra cash then people will notice and ask what you are doing. We are helping many but we will not crossline. |
Joe Texas | 8:38pm on Thursday, October 30th, 2008 |
Garret said: how can that be when this business system is based off of the same structure as mcdonalds, burger king, wendy's, taco bell, ect. and look how the people who started those are today, wealthier than u and i could ever imagine, so why dont you think twice and do some research before you try to degrade a business, especially one that is worth more than a majority of any of the business's out there,
Joe says: That is absolutely wrong. Quixtar is not run like the franchises you mention. If if did, you would sign a franchising agreement with quixtar and quixtar would set you up and train you. You are more like a commissioned saleperson.
Garret Said: I was into alcohol and drugs and i was very far from God and my motivation in life was very low, ever since i ve been in this business and been around these people my life has changed, my friends have noticed, my parents have noticed and most importantly, i have noticed, im 18 years old, i have stopped drinking, stopped doing drugs, and i have come much closer to God.
Joe say: I am glad you quit drugs and alcohol, and came to God, but that can be done through a church. Quixtar is a business isn't it?
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Lester Florida | 1:21pm on Thursday, October 30th, 2008  |
I tried promoting QUIXTAR on an internet site that allows promoting one site for a period of time. The other site will not let you promote the same promotional site more than once.
I had no trouble with internet site that allows promotional material of other companies on their site.
However, I received a very nasty emaiil from QUIXTAR stating that I was not allowed to promote their products on the internet of other sites. This makes it very limited on promoting their products. I also reveived a phone call from the
highest IBO in my line. I was told that I can not promote QUIXTAR products that way.
If you get approached by a QUIXTAR SPONSOR, Ask for a copy of all their rules. |
Garrett Kansas City, MO | 1:00pm on Thursday, October 30th, 2008  |
I just want to explain some thoughts i have had. I want to tell all of you people that think this system is crap and unsuccessful that you are probably some of the most uneducated and unintelligent people i ve ever heard, think about it you have said that this system doesn't work, how can that be when this business system is based off of the same structure as mcdonalds, burger king, wendy's, taco bell, ect. and look how the people who started those are today, wealthier than u and i could ever imagine, so why dont you think twice and do some research before you try to degrade a business, especially one that is worth more than a majority of any of the business's out there, want an estimate of how much this business is worth, try 8 billion, yes i said billion not million, but 8 BILLION dollars, i dont think you can argue with that. Also i want to share some experiences i ve had and tell you about certain people that i ve met. I have personally changed since i ve been involved with this business, I was into alcohol and drugs and i was very far from God and my motivation in life was very low, ever since i ve been in this business and been around these people my life has changed, my friends have noticed, my parents have noticed and most importantly, i have noticed, im 18 years old, i have stopped drinking, stopped doing drugs, and i have come much closer to God. I ve also met others in my situation, people who were much worse off and have changed there lives comepletely for the better because of the people that they are around in this business. For all you people who think you dont make money in this business you might want to take another look, not only do i make money but i know thousands upon thousands of people who make 15-30k a month, i ve recently met people who make more money than all you negative people could ever begin to imagine. I ve met people who are making over 500k a month by doing 5 hours of work and who are retired at a very young age. Im personally trained and mentored by people who are in there mid 20's who are making 20k a month and are retired just because they believed in themselves and once they made it they came back and rubbed it in your faces with 6 inches of 100 dollar bills, so i will take up any argument that anyone wants to throw out there because i ve seen that this system works for people who are looking for an opportunity or people who are chasing a dream to make money and be successful, that is what life is about living it the way you want to, not the way someone tells you to. and all of the people that are wealthy in this world are business owners like us and you know that we make 95% of the money in this country compared to the millions that work for someone and do nothing with their lives that make only 5% of the money in this country. To all of you negative people that make no money and have someone telling you what to do your whole life, enjoy it, while im living the way i want to live and making my own decisions, while im LTD...Living The Dream!!!! |
GILBERTO HERRERA SAN MARCOS,C.A | 3:20pm on Thursday, October 23rd, 2008 |
this is for all those people who thinks amway global is not a good business to invest.maybe you were in it and did many things to be millionare but you wanted the money quick. well let me tell you something when i first started in this great business my life had been changing a lot of the way i think and i talk,thanks to the books & cd's now i know who i am. well many people says that we dont need the system in the business but its your choice if you still want to think like an employer or businessmen. |
Joe Texas | 12:26pm on Thursday, October 23rd, 2008 |
I make a million bucks a year pointing out all the reasons why quixtar is not a good business for most people to get involved with. |
milt OR | 11:27pm on Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 |
I make $800K/yr after only 6yrs. All it took was a year of persistence, then teahing others how to be persistent by staying in contact with them all EVERY WEEK. It's quite easy... it will cascade on its own as long as you cultivate your people. If you don't join, its your loss. |
Bchung SF CA | 5:40pm on Saturday, October 18th, 2008 |
To most of dear quixtar/amway friends,
I love you very much.
I'd like to try out your new found shopping place. But being single I don't consume that much stuffs.
Bulk shopping at Costco since last year still keeps me comfortably. Looking back the whole year, my expenses on housing needs averaged out to be around $200~$300.
As we talked over phone and lunchouts, I just think you may want to evaluate this new place for sometimes to see if it is any good benefit to you in the long term. If expenses are more than what you normally would spend elsewhere, then it is not worth it. And if you have to spend more times attending meetings and buying some books, literatures related then you may rethink whether it is really a part-time.
I ran into a similar company, AIG international, when I was out of a job for awhile...and I thought it was going to be a great part-time job, selling and recruiting for insurance/housing related products.
After attending a couple meetings, I saw some of things that was not really normal...
Now it is kinda reminded me of that w/ quixtar/amway that you've been bragging so much to me.
Hope you do keep it as open-avenue since you have family and all. And at least research a little more to understand how you can make a good business out of it. Or not.
The worse thing is you don't want to leave your family/friends pissed after getting them commited to something like this. And only later if anything happens that doesn't workout it comes back at you. I am sure I still love you, but would they still.
By the way it is not so much as i am interested, it is how much can i really save to go shopping under this new place and as comparison to the quality i am getting. i am still too young to give up for that. :-)
and remember, everybody says i am such cheapskate driving an old ugly car!! but how can i give that up if she is my college sweetheart.
And boy, some of the testimonies here are kinda intriguing...keep up good work. |
Laura TX | 9:08am on Saturday, October 18th, 2008 |
My ex-boyfried is into Quixtar. He has pictures of what he's going to have when he "makes it" posted in varius places in his house. He has a bunch of motivational books he bought (yes, including Rich Dad etc. and one called Millionare). He still has to work a "real" job because, last year, he made not quite $10,000 as an IBO with his own website. (He should have stuck with me...I make $280,000 working a "real" job.
The products are "just" ok but he buys them like they're going out of style. (I truly believe quite a bit of his income from Quixtar is from his own purchases, as he has it EVERYWHERE). However, unless you are organized enough to project when it is you're going to run out of laundry soap or shampoo and order it well in advance, you have to hoard the stuff so you don't run out. (My ex-boyfriend did this). For me, I prefer the convenience of the local Walmart up at the corner with the name brands that, in the long run, cost less that Quixtar and are readily accessible when I need them. |
brian ny | 3:22pm on Friday, October 17th, 2008 |
steve from pa your spelling stinks lol but i like your attitude sign of a winner go diamond and rule listen to losers you become a loser period and thats the facts let the negative go nowhere in life do you think the successful people are negative in this world i dont think so they wouldnt be where they are if they were isnt it funny not to many people in the world successful that are negative sadly not too many people have dreams or goals they just go day by day living paycheck to paycheck getting nowhere the GOOD NEWS IS with this business i can make it happen and get somewhere be around positive people and think about it isnt it awesome to be around people that are so successful go to their house they welcome you into their 5 million dollar homes and treat you like a human being see in the corporate world you are ruled by your boss whatever he says you have to sit like a little puppy or else youll be fired in this business you cant fire anyone AWESOME people are desperate for a job last i looked 176000 people out of a job which really is a POW Prisoner of work and if you dont like the words TUFF it is what it is you will never get anywhere working for someone and that is the facts maybe not this business but the fact is owning your own business is the way to financial freedom be it this or something else. I laugh when i see people go to mcdonalds or burger king do you really think you are getting quality stuff oh wait its cheaper yes and destined to die young due to the poison they put in the burgers and fries but people still eat the garbage see thats a fact why they like the way it tastes what a joke you wont like it when you see your inside of your stomach which thank God mine is flat as a board because i take care of myself 6 days a week unlike some people that are so damn lazy but anyway i am not going to tell you what to do it works for me never met so many positive people in life costs nothing and besides show me something better and if you say job your a big time LOSER jobs come and go just like negative people they go nowhere but down always walking with their head down drowning in misery like a dog. I hate negative people which is why i dont in real life associate with them since this is garbage im in right at the moment am moving toward a bright future at my young age. Do i think ill go diamond hmmm WITHOUT A DOUBT and if they want to say PYRAMId which their job is then so be it I still will be diamond and thats a FACT BABY then we will see who is the one that makes it in this world the only person that can stop you is yourself. oh and by the way PHILLIES RULE GOODDAY |
brian ny | 8:32am on Friday, October 17th, 2008 |
zack from ny im from ny and in this business i will tell you yes you have to recruit people but think about it why not make money buying your own things you would normally buy anyway yes it can be a bit expensive some of the products but they are quality items and they work awesome. I will be straight with you the work you do basically is show plans to people that are looking to make some additional money its not easy but if you are willing to actually take the time to learn and listen you can do ok. I go to meetings every thursday and attend the functions for me i do it for the enjoyment of being around positive people because lets face it misery loves company losers will always be losers bums to be exact. Take a good look at the economy i dont tell people to quit their day job and i am straight with people i tell them listen your not going to get rich overnight you may never but if you really want something bad enough it will happen and really what can stop you of course listening to negative people who are broke themselves will get you know where in life that is what is so funny. They would rather listen to their broke friends then give this a chance. I will tell you the 2-5 years thing being straight with you dont cut it for me i see it as around 5-10 years which is ok with me. I am a platinum which is not bad make around 2600 a month and yes lol i do work a day job which one day maybe the next 2-5 years more because i have been in this business for 3 years i wont have to work for anyone. In life their is nothing better then working for yourself. There will be people who will tell you it cant work its A CULT which is a joke making people happy is a cult lol i cant stop laughing. People expect things to happen really fast and when it dont people panic and talk about it negatively. I will be staight with you do i think this is for everyone absolutely not its for the select few i have over 60 ibos maybe well 15-16 are actually doing what i say which is buy the products. They say its a pyramid i laugh people YOUR JOB IS A PYRAMID YOU DONT MAKE WHAT THE CEO MAKES WAKE UP. Now do i think this is a good opportunity on a scale from 1 to 10 id say 7 as far as motivation and being upbeat for sure a 10. The only pyramid is in peoples heads i have 6 people getting bigger checks i laugh when one said show me the check you know what i told them i dont have to but to stuff it in their negative face i did a check for 3100 last month i didnt know i had to prove anything to anyone lol but it took 3 years so when they say it will happen soon ahh dont know about that. Listen work your job although can be laid off at anytime and build the business this is not the only business i do but i like it and dont let negative people direct you down the wrong path. It costs very little to get started met alot of great friends and really life is too short. Id rather if they say cult lol which is really funny be in a cult of winners that make you happy then a cult like the losers who talk only negative in their cult of low lifes who do nothing with their life but trash an opportunity. If they told you that youll get rich and its for sure their lying it takes alot of time yes 2% make it so does this mean you have to be the other 98% up to you. Listen the water you drink you think poland spring deer park and great bear which are owned by the same person tell you everything about the water our water which does now sell in supermarkets and gyms is the best its been proven if you taste it youll know no mercury or bacteria or chlorine if you drink the water in a diner youll know what you are drinking as well oh i forgot our water is too expensive lol 1 dollar and 65 cents lol we have awesome products that i use anyway its teaching people how to be successful anyway good luck do you go to route 110 in melville go to a meeting their on mondays it will make you realize how lucky you are to get a chance to be around these people. Take care and for the rest of the negativity in this room drown in sorrow and take your misery with you to the grave goodbye |
steve pa | 3:20am on Friday, October 17th, 2008 |
nothing comes w/ out hard work, if i would open a mcdonalds or any other big chain, I think it cost me little bit more then a few bucks for cds to train me ? Mcdonalds must brain wash u to the food is horable and everone still goes there ? Its not even cheep the foods expensive and no one complains ? I rater pay a few more dollars then get cheap SH*t. I don;t even know why i am looking at this its 4 am and if it wasn't i would be so mad because i should be out building my bussiness not looking at this sh*t. Every compay has good and bad everone focaus on the bad. Mabee i never be a diamond but atleast i can say i tryed something not just worked my job tell the day i die. |
Zach NY | 10:10pm on Thursday, October 16th, 2008  |
I was presented with this IBO thing from a few of my co-workers, I looked in to the IBO thing after I went to one of the meetings. I did feel like the meeting was more to dazzle me than give me the real facts. and I'm having a hard time figuring it out. Honestly, can someone say for a fact what EXACTLY my "work" would consist of. I think i would have to recruit people to grow my business and my fellow co-workers business. True or False? they kinda made it sound like i would be in complete control. but what would i be in control of? the website? i cant get an honest opinion, and tell u the truth, i really think my co-workers have no idea them selfs |
brian ny | 6:39am on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 |
its hilarious in reference to the negativity of this world. I am amazed at how people trash a business. I am not looking to make millions for your information a little different then most because some of us dont need to work because like myself i got lucky in life and inherited a good deal of wealth but i started this business because quite frankly i was bored and some guy approached me with this business and i saw an opportunity to make some money. I myself do this because i like helping people and i donate alot of money to the church anyway and besides i am only 32 so i enjoy this business and love the products. Yes i agree some of these products are a bit pricey but they are quality products and i just love them. I am straight with this business in the sense no doubt it can take up to 10 years to get to this so called diamond level for me if it took me lol 15 years its fine but for the average joe i can understand on both ends why they like and dont like this business. I live on long island and to anyone new word of advise be careful because its not a get rich fast program and it does take alot of effort and time. I will say take a good look at it and see if its for you because not everything is for everyone. If you dont have a great salesman approach i can tell you itll be hard to make it in this business. You have to be strong and really know your products and extremely confident. You have to understand 98% of people in this world are poor why its all in their mindset attitude yes for me i was the lucky one well not really lucky because my close family member passed on and inheritied this wealth but id actually take it all back to see that she were still alive and if i was the average joe id get involved in this mainly because i like people its positive regardless and i read alot of books anyway. I can tell you yes 2% of people make it in this business and the reason being is they get lazy complacent bored and dont do the things necessary because if they did they would be a ruby or diamond by now. I dont tell people to quit their job but this is a good side business as well as your job. In your job however the negative is you can be gone tomorrow in here at least you have something a check every 15th i suggest you do both the job and business |
Joe Texas | 1:12pm on Tuesday, October 14th, 2008 |
Jfresh from Edmonton quoted: I'm in the business of people helping people, character development, and being a better person. Even if there was no money to this, that alone is priceless. IBO's, stop wasting your time here, mountains do not bow to the wind. -Fellow IBO
Joe from Texas comments: Jfresh, I'm afraid you have perfectly summed up what's wrong with quixtar. You're in the business to do everything except make money. A business exists to make a profit. Sure, helping people is good, but it's not the purpose of a retail business.
I'm afraid your mentors may have deceived you. You see, you get recruited by being enticed to make millions, flush your job, residual income. But since most IBO's don't make money after expenses, the upline leaders will shift their teaching to make you think you are helping people and doing good for the world.
Think about it. You are reading books, listening to cd's and attending seminars. How are you helping people? How are you developing character? Could you not achieve more by helping your church? |
Bhanu Long Island, New York | 11:45am on Tuesday, October 14th, 2008 |
Im very new to the business, and just like others I would have to say that the meeting are very educational and motivating. I am the type to try anything and everything. I just never ever have support. And this company provides it. They dont teach you just how to "sell beauty and nutritional products" but they teach you on how your whole life can change, and although i did not make any money so far, i am still dedicated. As the phrase goes, "consistence and persistence". IF anyone would like to offer some advice to me about this business in how I can continue to grow and maybe even any tips i would greatly appreciate it. The person who sponsered me went on vacation, and YES from the money she is making as an IBO, it has been hard to keep touch with her, because our schedules are so different. Take care everyone, and stay positive, it will get you far. |
JFresh Edmonton | 5:06am on Tuesday, October 14th, 2008  |
we should all bash sony while we're at it, and look up the negativity of wal-mart that's all over the internet. I'm in the business of people helping people, character development, and being a better person. Even if there was no money to this, that alone is priceless. IBO's, stop wasting your time here, mountains do not bow to the wind. -Fellow IBO |
brenda hickory, Nc | 5:48pm on Monday, October 13th, 2008 |
Quixtar is a good business!
Its not a "GET RICH FAST" business, it's just like every other business! Trust me..
Being in quixtar, it gave me alot of knowlege about business! Learn how to be postive and always think postive... yes or no its okay! yes, great! no, great..
Its good |
Joe Texas | 12:03pm on Friday, October 10th, 2008 |
Alyssa WA,
I'm sorry but you are way off. Quixtar is not like any other business. Selling products is not the focus like most businesses, therefore the money is coming out of the pockets of the people in the business.
Hard work is often not rewarded in this business because one of the key elements in succeeding is to sponsor people, which is very difficult.
Some people think it's get rich quick. Yes, but how do they get that impression? Isn't it because it was presented to them in that manner?
Your upline benefits whether you do well or not.
Even more so if you are attending seminars.
CEO's get a bigger paycheck, yes, but even the lowest man on the totem pole get paid in the corporate world. In quixtar, the lowest people often lose money, which in turn goes to the upline. Very different than what you describe.
Yes, a diamond probably worked very hard at deceiving people, you see that's how most people recruit and retain downline. You are not guaranteed anything except the likelihood of losing your shirt if you stay in this business long enough. |
Alyssa WA | 5:15pm on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 |
I think its like any other business.
You have to work hard to get anywhere in life. Some people misunderstand and assume that this is just an easy quick buck, and then they realize they have to actually work first. Cause from what I've heard these people that try and work hard make a ton, and the people that no longer do it weren't putting much effort into it.
And yes your up-line benefits when you do well and when you bring more people in, but is that any different from any other job? Don't big CEOs get a bigger paycheck than the little guys on bottom working?
How did that CEO get there, he/she probably started out as one of those little guys, worked their way up.
Seems like its the same here. You have to work hard, and if you do your guaranteed to move up. |
John Ontario | 8:23am on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 |
I agree with Cecilia, this IS a cult. I went to a Quixtar workshop last night and they could smell the new blood in the air. Lots of smiling faces, lots of hand shaking and NO questions were really answered, just diverted.
This is a pryamid company, don't forget that. Sure it may work if you know how to manipulate people into into buying only Quixtar products online, but what about the things you need now? Can you really afford to wait a week or two for something you just ran out of and use everyday (hey things happen)?
They say it is not a pryamid, but come on, who are they kidding, they get you, you get people, people get people, and so on.......the pryamid grows and grows (but the pyramid is made from the top down, and if you ask me, that doesn't make for a very successfull structure)
Save you time, save your money, save your soul, do not get involved unless you want to MAKE your freinds and family buy ONLY the products that this website offers (which by the way, I have seen cheaper in highend retail stores).
Thanks |
nick pdx | 4:01pm on Wednesday, October 8th, 2008 |
Just turned 20, already earn 2k a month + my other job 2k..
Lovin my life..can't stop! Rollin IS 350 haha..
Yes, was hard at first, lots of neg ppl laughin..but that didn't stop me..
What now! :D
Hey, hey whatcha waitin' for?
Do it, you better do it,
Cuz ima do it, you know I do it!!
Call on these negative suckas,
Shawtys losin's not an option! |
nick Pdx | 3:25pm on Wednesday, October 8th, 2008 |
brainwashed haha, ya with success!! |
Joe Texas | 2:52pm on Wednesday, October 8th, 2008 |
I found this gem recently:
(Dave's blog)
I recently saw some documentary of a woman who was a victim of domestic violence and she expressed some thoughts that are parallel to the IBO mindset. Let me elaborate.
She said maybe things would be different if only she had acted differently. That perhaps she deserved her fate, that she was in fact responsible for the situation she was in. That if she hangs in there, he will change. Isolation from family and friends.
It's eerily similar to what if I had shown a few more plans, I didn't do enough to succeed in Quixtar. I didn't work hard enough, it's my fault. If I never quit, I will eventually make it.
Isolation from people who are negative about quixtar.
These similarities, when you stop and really give thought to it, is how crafty or scary, the psychology behind what some quixtar leaders teach their downline. Your free to pass comments here, but the revelation I just received is sobering. |
Ornella Trinidad | 12:19pm on Monday, October 6th, 2008 |
Try again... lol....
It's not a scam! |
leumas jax, florida | 4:30pm on Sunday, October 5th, 2008 |
I have two brothers and 60 friends that used to be diamond distributors and Amway stole their business after 35 years. Amway also pirated their line of sponsorship! They were not allowed by law to talk to any of their group! If you folks want to shitcan your life so the Amway company can steal it then have at it, but you would be much more successful selling ice to esquimos. Amway is dead and little boy Devos killed it. I think he lives in France now.
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Shawn Oklahoma | 12:56pm on Saturday, October 4th, 2008 |
honeStly, quixtar/amway will do exactly what they Say they'll do. it iSn't a lie, it iSn't a Scam. Some people get caught up in the money, but itS not really about that to everyone... |
Joe Texas | 6:28pm on Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 |
Jarrett, IBO's can't chill. For many, their upline has "warned" them about the negative broke losers out on the world who will criticize quixtar so they are doing their duty by defending their business. They are also taught that the facts don't matter so they are successful even if they are spending more money on tapes than they are taking in by selling stuff.
Listen, someone who is trying to point out obvious facts has nothing to gain. Your uplines on the other hand, have much to gain if you buy stuff, and purchase tapes and functions, and better yet, bring in more people to join the business. This is why the uplines will tell you to avoid negative and whatnot - so that you don't accidently discover things abuot quixtar that they don't want you to know about.
If you knew what really went on with your upline, you'd understand, but you'll have to find out the hard way unless you take the time to due your own reasearch and do the math about this business. |
jarrett jacksonville | 3:21pm on Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 |
IBO's...
Chill out on here. These people don't believe its a good business because they don't want to. So just chill out. Instead of spending time on here arguing, build the business and lets get Larry and Pam Winters to 100k strong. See you guys at the TOP! |
bryan nj | 6:02am on Thursday, October 2nd, 2008 |
wendy from missouri you are so right its funny one guy said he spent 300 dollars and lol got back 8 dollars is this the only thing you do please try getting customers to buy from you for starters you dont make money buying your own products wake up people i have never seen so many people so angry with life its really sad listen the business yes works for what 2% why cant you be the 2% and besides id rather spend more money getting awesome products then going to walmart and get low class items please crap things we have the best water and vitamins so you pay more whats the big deal this opportunity i didnt know i had to prove that i do ok in this business let me ask you how would you like it if i asked what you made called rude. I dont make alot only about 1,200 a month which your right is peanuts and i dont have to prove i make the little money i make in this business and besides they never said it was going to be easy everyone wants something quick in life i get a kick out of people saying they left their son and family please grow up because you were trying to make some money its not like you cheated on your wife or husband or robbed a bank and the funny thing is they say this is a cult i didnt know being happy and listening to positive things is bad oh by the way you talk about cult go to a baseball game the only idiota that go to them and spend stupid money are the fans making others rich they are laughing right in your face talk about cult cheering other peoples success you think they care about you at least in this business we do care we make money if you do well in a job you think they care about you working in corporate america fact 1/7 million foreclosures fact 75000 jobs lost last month keep working in your job maybe you just might be able to afford the mortgage yes this is not the only thing i do but i dont work in a job called pow prisoner of work i have another business not this one which i do well in i suppose that is a cult as well anytime you own something i didnt know i have to announce to the world and the sorry losers in here that i make a few bucks. Let me ask you something why not buy from your own business and get paid i will be a platinum real soon and the only person i need to say i made it is my wife thank God for my 2 businesses oh by the way have a great day on your job at least i dont have to wake up early owned by corporate america what a joke loooolll pathetic people in here do you believe youll die guess you dont you dont seem to believe anything else how about the world one day coming to an end suppose you need proof please get a life keep working in your sorry ass jobs |
Joe Texas | 7:04pm on Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 |
Mary Ann,
Yes, bonuses are paid by quixtar. Now where does quixtar get the money to pay your bonuses? That's right, you pay "extra" for an item and quixtar returns it to you as a "bonus" and they call this a business opportunity.
Whereas Walmart simply charges less, far less than quixtar because they squeeze the manufacturer for a low price in return for volume purchase.
I have yet to see a bonafide price comparison where anyone actually saves money buyin stuff from Quixtar over walmart.
Got this from another blog:
More significantly, according to the website, an independent researcher (Global Insight), Walmart allows the average American family to save $2500 a year - REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY SHOP. |
Wendy Missouri | 7:00pm on Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 |
I understand why so many people are skeptical of opportunities that are out there. There are many scams. However, I get tired of so many people being so bitter and nasty toward all opportunites whether they know what they are talking about or not. Get a life people! You are only angry because there is no such thing as fast and easy money. You have to work to make money. It's as simple as that! How you work is up to each individual and each opportunity offers something different. Different things work for different people. Go do something positive with your life! Quixtar is legitimate. Is it easy? NO. But legitimate. And as for the cds and meetings, they are wonderful! Brainwashing? Please. Why is it wrong to make people feel good about themselves and what they are doing? I am speaking from experience. I tried Quixtar. I loved it but I have a family and a full time job and couldn't get myself to jump in and do it whole hearted which is what it takes. However, I saw with my own eyes how it changed lives. It is wonderful and I would encourage anybody out there to get involved. As for all the naysayers, we must all learn to listen to our own hearts and trust our own judgement and not allow someone to steal our dreams because of their own fear and ignorance. Stay strong and follow your dreams! |
cecilia texas | 1:04pm on Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 |
warning!!!!!!!
quixstar is a cult,
you turn into a zombee after listening to tapes
and going to the meetings,i work so hard for 3 years
left my 7 year old son, i regreted for the rest of my life.
they use the people that you really love to make you work for nothing, and you spend $300 a month to make $8.00 check //the products prices are crasy
a few items and i spend $300.00 they make you think that people that don't get in the buiss are negative and loosers, the worst expirience i ever had! |
Mary Ann Wolff Houston | 8:32am on Wednesday, October 1st, 2008 |
First, the person who wrote this does not know about the company. The money paid (bonus) is not paid to you by the sponsor, the one who helped you get into the business; it is paid by the company. I have been in the business for many years. I do this primarily to purchase products for myself. And if you are to criticize that, let me ask you this question. If you own a busines (let's say a Texaco Station) would you buy from an Exxon Mobil? I know that Quixtar (Amway) is an honest company and sees to it that you are paid what is owed you. There was even a check written for l cent. Before you print stuff that is not correct, it would help if you went on line to the information or call the company. They will be very happy to give you any information you need.
Why try to harm a company whose ethics are very high and expect its IBOs to act accordingly.
You do other people an injustice by writing stuff that may prevent a person who wants to do a small business on the side and purchase products which are above the quality you can buy in the store and the core products are highly concentrated. Most of the time the criticisms are made by people who do not understand or did not do the business as it was intended.
Please be fair. |
Joe Texas | 8:36pm on Monday, September 29th, 2008 |
Joe Schmo from Nebraska wrote: Oh ya, one more thing. Diamonds and emeralds can make way more than what the FDIC has required us to tell people. Diamonds are supposed to make a $250,000 a year. My upline diamond made over $1,000,000 last year. Just a thought
Joe from Texas says: I believe you mean FTC. And guess what, the FTC doesn't require you to tell people anything. The only requirement is to tell people the truth.
When you lie about income, then it's in violation of the FTC rules, and Amway was fined for exaggerated income claims in the past.
Your upline diamonds made a million? You have proof of that or is that what you heard on a tape? |
Joe Texas | 7:24pm on Monday, September 29th, 2008 |
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Joe Texas | 6:22pm on Monday, September 29th, 2008 |
Couple of points. Joe from Nebraska, what does the FDIC have to do with Quixtar? (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation)
Jen, good for you. Did you want to join alcohlics anonymous or did you start a business?
Dave, you sound just like the hoard of new Quixtar IBO's who claim to be making money, yet offer no proof and I would even bet you are working your job now while your quixtar business is losing money month after month. WHy do yuo feel it important to put down people who don't join your business cult?
I would be retired with millions if I had a buck for each message like yours that has been posted over the years. |
dave new york city | 3:16pm on Monday, September 29th, 2008 |
my goodness i didnt know we need to prove anything to anyone least of all someone i dont know lol its a joke how many negative people there are in the world makes my life alot easier seeing people still work for a living. Its funny the economy is so bad try getting a job now how about the stock market plunging this is the best business in the world costs practially nothing to join and i buy pretty much the same things everyone else does. Keep working in your job is it safe hmm called prisoner of work keep working for someone see where you end up its CALLED THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE LOL this business i am so gald i have finally after 4 years which actually was way too long have my 3k a month guaranteed residual income have to prove nothing to no one because really the only person who knows how successful you are is yourself and i can truly say not even close to being rich but it beats working for anyone
Its funny how people say this ia a cult really funny thats why my downline is making so much more then me the only pyramid is in your stupid head dream on work in corporate america thats called a big time pyramid unless your the president or ceo. Stop your whining that you work for a boss in a job hey you think your job when you wake up tomorrow will still be there i know my business keeps making money 6.3 billion in sales last year dont affect me this business youe job hmm you could be headed to the unemployment line keep thinking negative in life makes my business so much easier ha ha ha what a bunch of people who know nothing about a business best laundry detergent in the world buddy best water in the world keep drinking poland spring hope you lol like all that chlorine and mercury what a joke goodbye to all your negative idiots that live with their mommy in a cave somewhere in the woods probably 500 lbs and no life working in a jack of all bosses job making 50k what a sad joke |
Jen VA/SC | 10:10am on Monday, September 29th, 2008 |
You know I just left my 1st function in NC and I was able to experience one of the most amazing events of my life..I mean red carpet and all. I was introduced to this a while ago and to be honest I did not believe in it. After time and going to a few of the open meetings I realized that set aside the possible money that I could be making the people were just amazing. Life is so short and we all at some point have been negative I mean we are human...but, even when I have had my moments of being like that my support team has been around to help me up. Even before I became an IBO. So just be thankful that you have been given a chance to meet wonderful and caring people who yes may benefit from you, but don't really care if they do or not. They are there to be your friend and help you. You never know who may change there mind or who you may have help save. My love saved me and introduced me to this business. I am thankful everyday that he did and not for the Diamond status...I mean I am totally excited about that, but just to be around honest, loving, caring, and just all around GREAT people who love to have a good time with out drinking and drugs. I did not know I could have so much fun with out a drink in my hand. So to my upline....THANK YOU! You all have helped make a difference in my life and I love you all~
Thinking and Seeing Positive,
J~Z |
Johnny Philly | 6:35pm on Sunday, September 28th, 2008 |
Joe Schmo guy, they really got you huh? Its a common similarity that every person in the "business" talks the same way. They all say, next march, or next year, or next month etc. Always future tense when referring to income. You know why? Cause its never gonna happen. Nope, its not. They can never prove it. Show me the money!!! I know, you're upset cause you can't. Keep chasing that shadow their pal, im sure one day you'll look back and see what an incredible waste of time it all was. And money. Perhaps by grace of God, some of your old friends that decided not to join the cult will take you back. And at that point, maybe they will hire you too. |
Joe Schmo Nebraska | 6:56pm on Friday, September 26th, 2008 |
Oh ya, one more thing. Diamonds and emeralds can make way more than what the FDIC has required us to tell people. Diamonds are supposed to make a $250,000 a year. My upline diamond made over $1,000,000 last year. Just a thought |
Joe Schmo Nebraska | 6:52pm on Friday, September 26th, 2008 |
oh ya, almost forgot. I'll post a jpeg of my $20,000 bonus check I get next year for Mr. Joe Chabo here and all the rest of you who are dumbasses and don't get into this this business. Sorry about calling you dumbasses, but there really is no better word for the people who turn this opportunity down. |
Joe Schmo Nebraska | 6:48pm on Friday, September 26th, 2008 |
Wow!!! I cannot believe how naive some of you people are. Quixtar is quite possibly the best thing that has ever happened in the history of United States. Okay, that's goin to the extreme, but I am really starting to believe that. Quixtar basically allows you to do this: Instead of getting drunk every night and screwin off in college for four years, then working for the next fifty years of your life after college, Quixtar allows you to reverse that and work hard for four years in college with some fun, then do whatever the hell you want for the next fifty. It's called residual income!!! I just started college and will be at 7500 PV by next March. That means I'll be making $45,000 a year, no, wait did I forget to add the $20,000 dollar yearly bonus Quixtar gives out to people who reach 7500 PV and maintain it for a year? Well darn, I guess I did, so I guess that means by the end of my sophmore year in college I'll be making AT LEAST $65,000 a year. So that means if I would do nothing my junior year to help this business grow, I would still make $65,000. Now that's what I like about residual income!! Can you tell me of any junior in college that makes $65,000 a year doing nothing. That's right- Me in a couple years. The only people who fail at this business are the ones who get disappointed when they see their first couple paychecks and then they quit. It's not a get rich quick scheme. It's a you invest your time into this for a good solid year or two, then you reap the incredible benefits I had just mentioned. I'm not even trying to be a jackass to anybody either. This really works. Don't let yourself down if thoses first few paychecks aren't huge. It might take a year or two. Let's say if it even takes you five years to do what I am doing in one. Is it still worth that extra $65,000? Hell yeah it is. |
Sally FL | 6:44pm on Thursday, September 25th, 2008 |
I don't know much about the program but my comment is about the 'gifts' in the Ribbon The Gift of Choice. We received one of the Elite cards as a gift. Found out that the gift card was $300. The gifts offered are so cheap, some of which you can buy at Target for less than $50. We tried redeeming the card for the $300, cash, but in order to do that you have to go back to the gift-giver and they need to return the card for you. That would be just plain rude on our part so I guess we'll have to choose a gift from the cheap assortment that's offered. Maybe, we can sell the card on eBay!? |
Joe Chabo CT | 1:20pm on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 |
Whoever says they made money from this, prove it by posting a jpeg of the check you received from them. It's a scam and if it wasn't, the mainstream media would be covering it. I attended several "cult like" meetings and had many questions which were never answered. I attended another meeting at someone's house only to watch a grown man try and push this cleaning product on us by polishing pennies. |
Too Funny Where Im At | 3:55am on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 |
What does IBO mean anyway? Internet Bimbo Online? lmao |
not telling who cares | 3:52am on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 |
Some one just asked me to join Quixtar and I'm glad I did a little checking into first to see what it is all about. After reading all the comments on here I think I'll definately pass on this. All you negative folks on here with the attitudes are an adorable black hole of need... Do whatever yanks your chains I'm not interested... lol |
Joe Texas | 11:44am on Monday, September 22nd, 2008 |
Mickie, it's all good if you joined just to sell stuff and make a few bucks. But with Quixtar prices, wouldn't it be just as well to buy your stuff from Walmart at half the prices instead of overpaying and then getting back $8? Do a serious price comparison and you'll be shocked.
Macey, can you explain how being an IBO "helps" people? |
Macey Trinidad | 7:54am on Monday, September 22nd, 2008 |
Thanks for helping us do a great job. I'm an IBO and we help people. I can suggest that you can try that too! |
kimberly trinidad and tobago west indies | 4:51pm on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 |
quixtar is the greatest thing thats ever happened to me and let me share a few words of wisdom to you low life people who assume this business is bogus its not so.so you all can kiss my black ass |
Mickie Jersey | 11:46pm on Friday, September 19th, 2008 |
Wowsers! I just read many comments from both sides. This blog is filled with negativity and name calling. My question is, Is it really worth it?
Just like with anything else there's going to be positive and negative thoughts for and against, Quixtar/Amway Global, in this case.
It works for some and not for others. It seems the more ambitious a person is/becomes the better it works for him/her.
Yes, I am an IBO. No, I didn't come into the business to make millions of dollars. I just came into the business to supplement my income. Yeah, I'm going to be honest, I been in business a couple years, Do I make a lot of money? Not a tremendous amount by today's standards. I do supplement my salary though.
I'll also say this. At my first mtg. I was told my first check would be about $7. They lied, it was $8 and some odd cents. I was informed that the average check per month is $105 per IBOship. I was told about "Kate", educational materials, and the website, I was informed that I didn't have to participate but I could if I wanted. I wanted to and did. I figured out quite quickly that ppl get paid for tools.
One more thing, I will say I am choosing not to let my household bills go astray-(I never would) or I'm not going to go into a any amount of debt to continue my business or ruin my credit history. The business has actually helped me pay off some of my bills quicker then they would of been paid. I choose my own destiny and won't allow anyone to convince me otherwise. It's a matter of making the right choices for me and my family. If that means a nice little supplemental income, sobeit, if I ever become platinum, emerald, or diamond---that's just a bonus.
Some ppl. may say I have the wrong attitude about it but hey- to each his/her own.
I stay in the business for a couple of reasons. One is the relationships I've made, one is for the supplemental income, and the other is I love to travel and get to go places I'd never dreamed of. I have fun.
I lied, one more thing, my friend is an IBO as well, but an inactive one. She is still getting paid for work she done 10 years ago. It's not a huge amount but hey! it's something. |
Joe Texas | 12:35pm on Friday, September 19th, 2008 |
Matthew, first off, thanks for working in the military and helping to protect our freedoms.
Regards to quixtar, you said you are working your business 2 hours per week to earn a few extra bucks, if I understood you correctly. If that was accurate, I don't think the critics of the business are talkig about you. The "scam" part os tricking people into joining, and getting people to quit college to join quixtar, and to give them false hope of retiring at age 26, not having a job, and walking the beaches of the world. It's just not gonna happen except for a very rare few people. Yet it is promoted as being the norm. |
Matthew Gallagher MCAS Cheery Point, NC | 8:07am on Friday, September 19th, 2008 |
I am an IBO. Since some of you non-IBOs seem to think that we all are too high on our pedestals, and that we are all saying the same thing over and over, let me try a different approach. I am a newly registered IBO. I am also a member of the armed forces, US Navy to be exact. I will tell you straight up that no, I am not earning a kagillion dollars or whatnot. But I AM earning another paycheck along with my lousy government check. For what? Putting like 2 hours of work into my business a week. In other words, I am earning some extra money without having to work another job so I can still excel at my military career. So why shoot holes in something that is working for people? Maybe it doesn't work for YOU, but that doesn't mean it is a scam. To call it one just so people can get people into whatever money-maker you are participating online is... Well... Kind of low. Why dont you just post something saying how great your way of making money is instead of bashing on another? Anyway, that is how I feel about the situation. I am not projecting myself as high and mighty, just a guy who likes to earn a little extra income without having another part time job. Thank you. |
Recari Dominican Republic | 5:37pm on Thursday, September 18th, 2008 |
I have read a lot of your posts on this subject, starting with the first one, but only had the time to make it halfway thru. I'm foreign so my market might work a bit differently than yours, but I want to answer some of the basic concerns that keep coming up: 1)"Pyramid Scheme": my sponsor has 3 diamonds in his downline and yet, he is still an emerald. Your growth is only limited by the work you put into it. 2)"IBO's do all the purchasing": 20% of my purchases have been for personal use (because I like the products) the rest I sell and make fast money and I also get a commission for the money spent. 3)"It ends your relatinships": if your marriage is so weak that you cannot put up with your spouse puting in an extra couple of hours of work that will pay off later on then you shouldn't be pointing the finger at the business. 4)"They don't let you advertise or display at stores": this is a direct marketing business model. If the corporation allows that, some people with extra cash might have an unfair advantage because they would get more exposure. The business would no longer be accesible to Joe Public. It would be like any other product or service. Everyone has the same chance to succeed with these rules and if you cannot sell products this way maybe you're not cut out for it, but don't say it's a scam. 5) "Why don't more people do it?": I think I explained myself in the previous one. Most people are not cut out for this. You have to stand being rejected by your friends and still remain friends with them. Most people cannot handle rejection. I know a diamond who was rejected the first 60 times he showed the business to other people. How many of you out there have the same determination. And yet, he stuck to it and he just made founder and some extra qualification I don't yet understand and he will be receiving 17,500,000 dominican pesos. At today's exchange rate that's half a million dollars. IN ONE CHECK!!! 6) "Cult, Brainwashing, etc.": this business takes a lot of motivation to succeed because of what I just said. Have you ever seen any motivational speaker?? He will say the same things you would hear at a Quixtar seminar. I have met some extraordinary people here, not just rich financially, but also from a personal stand point.
That's all I have to say and to the other IBO's answering posts here I know sometimes it's frustrating to hear people knock what you do just because they weren't cut out for it, but you cannot argue by using foul or offensive language. It helps them prove their point that we are not professionals at what we do. |
Joe Texas | 12:03pm on Thursday, September 18th, 2008 |
Hey Alice, instead of bragging about how everyone will be cleaning your toilets, why not prove you can hire someone to clean your toilets. Are you a diamond? Diamonds cannot afford to hire people to clean their toilets. Do the math. |
alice Los angeles | 10:49pm on Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 |
All you negative people out there it's ok what ever you say because we don't really need you...oh yeah I forgot we do need you lmao Your the people who are going to wash our clothes, wash our toilets and cook for us ect... While we are out traveling you'll be stuck working for some one elses dreams LOOSERS!!!!! |
Joe Texas | 1:19pm on Monday, September 15th, 2008 |
Funny how all these fired up IBO's all think they have conquered the world and the rest of us are "losers". I have yet to see a single IBO back up their claims about being free or making the kind of income they claim. I can tell Jack's story is full of holes.
Even if you achieve a diamond income, which is $146,000, all you will have achieved is a middle class lifestyle after paying medical insurance, investing some for retirement, monthly bills. And you think you ar "free", you are not. People are quitting quixtar every day, You have to work hard to keep replacing people who quit and I bet many diamonds are in debt trying to show a fabulous diamond lifestyle.
I challenge anyone here to do the math. Take an average diamond income, subtract income taxes, medical insurance and other monthly obligations, etc. What you will see is a very middle class income and lifestyle. Not saying that is a bad thing, but with all the effort involved, having a job is easier. |
MR KNOW IT ALL EVERYWHERE | 12:04pm on Sunday, September 14th, 2008 |
LOL !!! YA MUST GET A GREAT PENSION SELLING ENERGY DRINKS !!! AND HOW BOUT MEDICAL INSURANCE ??? LEMME GUESS YOU MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO OFFSET THE COST MEDICAL INSURANCE??? LOL WHAT A JOKE. ALL THESE ZOMBIES TRYING TO CONVINCE THE " BROKE LOSERS" WHO WORK EVERYDAY AND HAVE TO FEAR BEING LAID OFF....HOW MANY TESTIMONIALS IN THIS BLOG ARE CARBON COPY RIP OFFS OF ONE ANOTHER. AND THE CRAMMER IS OF COURSE ALWAYS CORRECT, AS WELL AS THE SPELLING. PLEASE. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL THE VICTIMS OF THIS SCHEME AND TO THE "FUTURE MILLIONAIRES" ILL SEE YOU ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE WHEN I RETIRE WITH A FULL PENSION AND MY 401K WHILE YOUR LOOKING FOR A MINIMUM WAGE JOB AT AGE 60 BECAUSE THE VITAMINS(LOL) YOU WERE TRYING TO PUSH DIDNT PROVIDE A SECURE FUTURE....LOLOLOL !!! |
GOD UP ABOVE | 11:06am on Sunday, September 14th, 2008 |
LOL YOU BRAINWASHED MOTHER F#CKERS !!!! |
steve nj | 8:23pm on Saturday, September 13th, 2008 |
its funny how people knock a business they are the ones that live in caves with their mothers this business has made my life different totally. I know what i make in this business and for the people that dont believe the hell with them. I love this business because quite frankly i dont need to work in a corporate job anymore took me long enough 11 years which really is a long time but ive made it to emerald. I am upset i havent made diamond yet but grateful for the opportunity my upline gave me because it changed my life totally. I am so grateful me and my wife that my wife doesnt need to work in her stupid job anymore thank God for that. I have done well but havent reached my full potential but i know with the time and effort and my wifes support i can make this business work for me. I hope everyone gets the dream they want and its a shame their are so many negative people in the world that will say anything because they are so unhappy in their lives and just like to blog negative thoughts. I am going to my positive blog in opportunity zone very interesting jack li what you said about 2700 a month i mean thats alot of business im not saying it cant be done but congrats you know you do have a long way to go but at least you believe in your dream dont let anyone take that away from you again congrats lol i think there are more negative people in here then positive so all i can say is they teach you in school to get a job and then go to work do you think they say do a business be an owner of course not because when you work in a job you really think 5-10k a month is safe not anymore with all the layoffs and takeovers its best to have a business of your own like i do. I watch people go to work every day making5-10k a month some but i dont have to wake up with an alarm clock set at 530 or 6am i get up when i like and do have a great life with great kids with a nice pool not rich but very well taken care of but will be diamond then ill be sort of rich lol. I can go and come as i please cant get fired cant get laid off and the check always comes on the 15th no matter how bad the economy is so for me it worked for others well try something different if this is not for you and good luck |
jack li | 8:13pm on Saturday, September 13th, 2008 |
personally i could care less what you think mr keep working in a job and by the way i do have a job that pays me well and this business makes me the money i said. I dont really care what you believe i didnt ask for your comment loser |
Joe Texas | 1:01pm on Friday, September 12th, 2008 |
Jack, your story is so full of holes that it can't even hold a drop of water. You claim to make over $2700 a month with only 26 downline?
That means you are selling $15,000 worth of products a month? I don't believe that for a second.
And I have to inform you that your goals are too low. I know many people who earn much more than $5000 a month from their jobs alone, as opposeed to you, who probably has a job and a second job working quixtar for little or nothing while pretending to be successful.
Maybe one of you can explain why a triple diamond cannot make his house payments? |
IBOKLOR Location unknown | 1:53pm on Wednesday, September 10th, 2008 |
These negative people on here are really clueless on how this business runs. It really isn't worth any IBO's time to try and explain anything to them. They have top, well-known, powerful and famous leaders of the world speaking for the business at the FUNCTION. Hence the word "FOR" not against. You negative people out there need to get your facts straight, and for the people who claim to be "IBO" once for a couple of months and it didn't work for them, too bad you couldn't make it, we're making it to diamond with or without YOU.
This business has people who had no problem with financial security, leadership skills are what attracted most people in the long run. For the negative people, you are the typical people that I choose to simply banish from my world of association. Obviously you guys aren't making it anywhere and are just miserable. That's why you have every minute of everyday to come on here to try and find the most negative comment you can to leave on here. Don't bother replying back to me... why? I'm not even gonna come back on here. AND I'm not interested in what you have to say, neither do I care about a single word you have to say. I have better people in life than you'll ever be.
DIAMOND all the way BABY. GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE IBOS! PETER ISLAND HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREEDOM! |
jack li | 7:38pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
amway was fined isnt it funny we are still alive and continue to be a billion dollar business were still here for 50 years and will be here until you retire at least working in a job we have awesome products outstanding leadership quixtar amway global rule where is the jobs today gone so many people unemployed and they had a paycheck now they are on the unemployment line dont want to be there thank you very much like i said platinum in this business is a joke easy money all the way to the bank |
jack li | 7:35pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
lol massive financial losses how do you figure that are they buying the entire store please i spend lets see 500 a month that i normally spend just me only cds about 20 bucks a month if that books that i buy anyway because i am a reader maybe 50 bucks financial massive losses its because they dont know how to do this business thats why most fail they either quit dont go to every meeting like i do lazy or just plain not cut out for it. I dont want to work for the rest of my life and I thank my sponsor who is ruby for making me truly understand what it means to be an independent business owner.
Good luck living paycheck to paycheck |
jack li | 7:32pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
who cares as long as i make money dont matter to me good luck at least in your job what you earn a paycheck thats a joke your nothing more then mediocore and in a payjob you can be laid off tomorrow please hey if you wish to stay in your job go ahead and by the way i dont have lol 250ibos i only have 26 most of my business is customers which brought me to the level i am at and if you really think this is a pyramid think again my friend who i sponsored makes more then me so there goes your so called pyramid people always knock any business that does well i know where i am headed straight to diamond and no stupid blog or negativity will stand in my way a job is a prisoner of work period |
Jesus TEXAS | 7:18pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
Personally, I don't believe in that bullshit!, if you want a succesful future, then work hard to obtain it, there are a lot of ways you can choose for having wealthy and happiness.
I recomend people not to be weak, and stay away from those IBOS, diamonds, emeralds or whatever they're called wash their brain and make them pay for having a job or a simple membership card. |
Joe Texas | 1:20pm on Monday, September 8th, 2008 |
Jack: Lets face it even if you go platinum or ruby whats wrong with 2700-4500 a month
Joe: Nothing wrong except if you actually make that, you probably have 250 IBO's downline from you who are losing money or making nothing. If they are entrenched in the "system", then they may be suffering massive financial losses. That's why there is a pyramid comparison. In a job setting, at least everyone, even the lowest ranking employee earns a check and has a net gain at the end of the month.
Jack: its funny how some say its a pyramid when there job is a pyramid unbelievable and besides to me whoever works the hardest of the people i sponsor make the most money
Joe: Even if your company may have a pyramidal hierarchy, it's doesn't change the fact that quixtar is a pyramid. Just because you call the pot black doesn't mean the kettle isn't.
Jack: not a pyramid ftc dont think were a pyramid but anyway good luck wish you well
Joe: The FTC fined Amway for false income claims and said amway was legal because of the retail sales rule. If you teach "buy from yourself" or if you don't have customers who are no IBO's you may indeed be running an illegal pyramid. |
jack li | 11:09am on Monday, September 8th, 2008 |
well thats not true but whatever you say hey it works for me what can i say its not easy nor hard i just follow the system i think to each his own in whatever you do in your life wish everyone well in whatever field they wish to enter i just choose not to work for anyone anymore so tired of my friends and people saying i have no time no life no money bored work so many hours i just dont feel like working for anyone anymore anything wrong with that i do quite well here i seek people young and ambitous for me ages 18-30 and take it from there. Lets face it even if you go platinum or ruby whats wrong with 2700-4500 a month all the time dont have to go diamond im going diamond though its all your attitude its funny how some say its a pyramid when there job is a pyramid unbelievable and besides to me whoever works the hardest of the people i sponsor make the most money not a pyramid ftc dont think were a pyramid but anyway good luck wish you well |
Joe Texas | 3:23pm on Thursday, September 4th, 2008 |
Jack, by your reasoning, we should all play the lottery because it's obvious that some people win and become wealthy. In fact I think more people win lotteries than those who go diamond. |
jack li | 7:41pm on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 |
thats the problem you say most dont make it does it mean you cant i dont believe in failure and it does make money for me go get a job and work for someone does this make u happy if so great if not come aboard one of the best businesses which cost nothing hardly to join and have a dream go for it no negative people who are so miserable will bring me down stay with negative become even more negative cant wont not going to all words that get you no where the best water in the world awesome no chrorine no mercury in the water all pure awesome go diamond baby all the way |
Joe Texas | 12:13pm on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 |
Tabby from Maryland, you're in the wrong business. I make $5000 to $6000 sitting on my butt blogging about why quixtar doesn't work for most. |
tabby maryland | 9:58am on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 |
I AM AN IBO AND I DONT TRY TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO JOIN, ALL I DO IS SHOP AND GET PEOPLE TO SHOP AND THAT MAKES ME 3-4000.00 A MONTH..INSTEAD OF BUYIN HOUSEHOLD ITEMS AT WALMART, I BUY THEM ON MY WEBSITE AND I GET MONEY BACK..PLUS ALL THE PEOPLE SHOPPING MY WEBSITE I GET A % OF WHAT THEY BUY..IF U WANT TO GO INTO THIS BUSINESS THATS THE WAY TO MAKE MONEY FAST, GETTING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP IS ALITTLE HARD, SO JUST GET THEM TO SHOP...BUT I FOR ONE LOVE THE BUSINESS AND I AM MAKING MONEY SITTING ON MY ASS AT HOME..LOL |
Joe Texas | 6:00pm on Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008 |
beebe, nj said:
"Ever since i became an IBO i have been such a better person. I enjoy my life to the fullest instead of wandering through life depressed and miserable because almost everyone around me is miserable. This business has taught me to stand up and stand strong. Enjoy life the fullest...Go diamond baby!!:
JOe says: I noticed you didn't mention that you actually made any money from quixtar. All ofyou brainwashed IBO's come dropping in here talking about being nicer or whatever, that's all good, but did you get into business to make money or not? |
beebe nj | 11:10am on Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008 |
Hell Yea Quixtar is where its at. Dont listen to all those stupid people telling you to get a job, work 40 50 60 hours a week and suck up to a boss for the rest of your life so that u can retire at 65 and die. If you really want to be successful as an IBO, all you need is a dream. You have to protect your dream because theres too many stupid people that try to steal your dream. Ever since i became an IBO i have been such a better person. I enjoy my life to the fullest instead of wandering through life depressed and miserable because almost everyone around me is miserable. This business has taught me to stand up and stand strong. Enjoy life the fullest...Go diamond baby!! |
bryan ny | 7:41pm on Monday, September 1st, 2008 |
well some people choose the wrong friends in this business not everyone lies unfortunately for you your sponsor did thats the way it goes as for me i dont see how it alientates your friends and family maybe some people are like this my friends are still my friends whether they join or not this is a great business for me and met some nice guys and girls in here and they dont lie to me if you were brainwashed well the only brainwashing was when you were younger you were told to go to school and get a job please give me a break if you work this business its so easy its pathetic i am proud to be an ibo and so sick and tired of people being so damn negative i am not alientated by anyone and choose my friends carefully no one has lied to me and besides i work my own business i dont rely on my upline i rely on myself to make it happen and i dont need any luck but thank you good luck to everyone working in a job unemployment rate keeps rising people losing their homes you think a job with no security is going to save you making little raises and not getting anywhere if this is your idea of fun and destiny be my guest i celebrate free enterprise day thank God not labor day if you choose to work for someone its great if you choose this i choose to work for no one i can wake up in the morning and live free quixtar rules and no negative bullcrap will tell me it dont work have fun and good luck in your job |
Karen Virginia | 2:21am on Monday, September 1st, 2008 |
Oops! I hit enter before completing my comment. As I stated, a successful IBO is one who is manipulating downline and lying to prospects. I was an IBO for 18 mths and found myself paying false compliments to "prospects". I was losing respect for the average working citizen, especially those who had the good sense not to register with Quixtar. We were told to avoid association with Amway. Now, suddenly the Amway name is being embraced. Anyone IBO who denies this is either lying or brainwashed. I refused to be brainwashed and manipulated and regained control of my life. If you are honest with integrity and an independent thinker, this is not the business for you. For someone who doesn't mind lying, alientating family and friends and having others think for them,climb aboard and good luck to ya! |
Karen Virginia | 2:04am on Monday, September 1st, 2008 |
There is no doubt that some have been successful in Quixtar, all beit an extremely minute few. The problem is the type of person you have to become in order to be successful. Any IBO making lots of money is someone not to be trusted because they are manipulating downline and lying to prospects. I was an IBO |
jack nyc | 4:55am on Saturday, August 30th, 2008 |
well i have read many blogs in here and have never saw so many negative people in my life. A waste of time in life lets face it is working in your job for 40 years being medicore you call that ok and a success working for someone i think not. Here is how people see things in life they think everything is a scam i know people who hate donald trump why because he is rich and their not come on. The business is residual income because i am now a platinum well is this alot of money not really about 80k now part time not bad i do still work a job in wall street but tired of working for someone. Its funny how people bad mouth a business because they either quit, lazy etccc. In life not everyone was cut out to be a salesperson its hard business but to me the energy drinks which someone said is so funny hello how much is red bull and monster drink. The ole saying is to each his own i dont let negative people rule my life which is why most people stay broke called a prisoner of work which when you work for someone stop defending the idea that it is ok. Most people have no clue how to succeed in life becausee they are in fear of what is going to happen next which is why so many people today are poor medicore period. Do you want to stay broke working for your boss why not try saying to your boss take this job and shove it dont most of you feel this way. This business like any other takes time effort hard work and dedication and dont let anyone stop you from your dream especially broke friends and people like in here who live in caves with their family never coming out of the shadow. If you dont get rich in this business so what even if you make 1k more a month part time is this so bad lol its a joke that people dont see how easy this is to make money. Well keep working until your 72 oh by the way do you like to get up every morning forced to go to work and its nice a job keeps you by giving you a 3% raise with inflation today and gas prices its not much is it. This business costs so little it sick i love it see you in seven springs financial freedom baby.
Oh by the way see some of us dont celebrate labor day means you have been a prisoner of work all your life i celebrate free enterprise day its awesome in virginia the truth no one can stop you from being successful in this business dont let your broke friend make your decision. Cant wait to go ruby next level good day |
Sissy TN | 1:47am on Saturday, August 30th, 2008 |
So this is what I have to say about Quixtar, you people who sit there and say that its an awesome company and they support you listen carefully. My ex-husband is in quixtar, after joining he started listening to his upline (not a bad thing if you do have good people in it who really care about you) but when we fell on financial problems they were rather upset... Telling him not to slow down his purchases on the site. He insists the business costs nothing a month but with his monthly purchases, cost of kate, his cel-phone and all told he was putting 500$ into the business a month. Needless to say, he listened to them, the person telling him WAS after all a professional accountant. One month later our house was foreclosed on (didn't say my ex-hubby was bright when it came to common sense) when I yelled at him, his upline told him "She's the wrong kind of wife" he yet again listened and tried putting me in my place, which as I understand is hard when you are up to your knees in qwiksand^^. Reguardless I am hardly one to sit and let someone tell me I am not good enough to stand up for myself (oh yeah, we have three kids and still they advised him not to pay the mortgage cause the bank would lose money) and my children. BTW you try not being christian and being in any way affiliated with this business |
JT St. Louis | 4:39pm on Friday, August 29th, 2008 |
I have read many comments on this page, and I must say that the computer age really has killed grammar. Enough of that though, I am here to talk about Quixtar/Amway. The business plan of the Quixtar/Amway corporation is laughable at best, depending on sales of the business plan rather than sheer volume as was suggested in an earlier post. The idea is to sign up as many IBO's (Independent Business Owners) as possible and then to make money off of them and the IBO's that they sign up, etc. I will say that the products aren't all bad, in fact I was rather fond of their energy drink line. The problem with their products is that you cannot sell them in ways that would generally allow you move them in volume.Another problem with the products is the price, they are simply too expensive once shipping is added in to be considered a deal. Who wants to give up the ability to buy something at a lower price and take it home that instant for a higher priced item you have to wait on to recieve. What Quixtar/Amway really sells more than anything else is a hyped up psychology of success. The meetings and functions are all quite cultic and never give specifics, they are just rallies at which everyone bows down to Ray Krock and Robert Kiyosaki and their idealism. This is not a real opportunity for most, it is a waste of time in fact for most people. |
Joe Texas | 12:34pm on Friday, August 29th, 2008 |
There is no residual income in quixtar. Try not working the business for a while and it will fall apart like a cheap suit.
Quixtar and Amway sales were 7 billion. Over a million IBO's made the sales, but mostly to themselves. Quixtar IBO's move less than 5% of their products to non IBO's.
Walmart in contrast has 374 billion on sales and has 2 million employees. Who is more efficient? |
james nc | 4:57am on Thursday, August 28th, 2008 |
well to answer your question why everyone is not in it its simple not everyone has an open mind most people keep their mind closed. If you think about it does everyone like mcdonalds or being a real estate agent not everyone likes to do this type of selling business. Its true alot of people dont make it truly because they either dont work the system or they just cant handle it being let down when they show a plan. This company doesnt need to advertise on tv although they just started to recently and they dont need to put alot of these products on shelves because they have us as endorsers doing this type of work. I never said it would be easy and i dont know about alot of people that i saw posting things on this site but it has done well for me and my family am i rich not even close but not bad part time. I use the products and so does my family and friends and it makes me money whoich is all i know so far is it a get rich scheme no because they tell you its an opportunity to make 15ok in 2-5 years doesnt mean it wont take you 10 years or more to do this. It is kind of easy if you really think about it all I do is for example i work out in a gym talk to people about some products and if they want to be a customer great if not i move on i dont chase people that want to work for the rest of their lives. I dont like working for anyone like a boss it truly is lousy. I think alot of people try it and give up after a couple of months because they dont understand it and besides if your going to buy a book for example in barnes and noble why not get point value for it i think this is a good business and it makes me some extra cash i didnt have before so i see this as a good thing |
Skalla Miami | 3:14pm on Wednesday, August 27th, 2008 |
Did those last few posts all come from the same person? Compare them and decide . . . What I want to know is: if it works so well, why aren't so many more people in it? What happens if we all joined and all recruited everyone else, lol? There's a ceiling on everything, so don't tell me there's no ceiling!! |
Jake Iowa | 11:39pm on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
Sorry, but when I read a review or a post, and The grammar is so poor I tend to not believe it. Try making sense in your so-called success stories. Yes I attended these seminars! If the products are so great why are they not in stores, like the energy drinks they keep talking about! Come-on get real people! |
steve ny | 8:56am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
QUIXTAR RULES awesome business doing well so glad i didnt listen to my brainwashed friend that said it cant work such a loser he was why he is so broke today making 50k pathetic best products see us at the jacob javits this week for national spotlight love it glad i dont have to soon work for anyone anymore fire your boss can you fire your boss lol you are working as a prisoner of work forever pathetic to work for someone today will never make more then your higher people in a job thats called a pyramid inour business the harder you work the more you make dont matter who sponsored what please if you dont want to do it no one is putting a gun to your head STAY BROKE |
john nyc | 8:53am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
boring delusional moron is that what bdm in the us stands for keep reading negative sites you may just end up broke probably are already lol keep your day job hmm wonder if youll get laid off ill be waving while everyone goes to work |
DAVID li | 8:51am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
so ivan from portland you want hard proof well lets see well at least the people i know that are successful i can name you many ive been to there 5 million dollar houses seen their check one is my best friend he is not rich but made 24k last month and why do we have to prove anything if you work hard you make money simple as that to me its a joke so easy its pathetic i went platinum in 8 months thats how easy it was to reach 7500 pts i never said it would be easy but hey just bought a new tv with my check from the business not alot but hey better then working in a job |
brian nyc | 8:48am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
funny how so many people need to curse to get there frusteration out because they are so mediocre themselves. Its funny how so many negative people knock this down. For your information i dont need to prove anything to anyone it works because i just went platinum well what does this mean well i put in about 15-20 hours a week and make an additional 2,600 not bad and by the way it is residual i have been getting this the last 2 months same check almost so for most people will always knock down a business and besides whats wrong with amway my dad did very well and by the way take a good hard look at what a job does for you called nothing like being medicore keep working until your 72 the new retirement age got a job what a joke so many people getting laid off this business there are no layoffs as long as you listen to your broke friends youll stay broke by the way would you take advice from someone broke and medicore well maybe you do not me thank God i didnt listen to my broke friend id probably be working at walmart doing nothing with my life.
Oh by the way x/s energy drinks are awesome i make money just having them buy this as a customer and the water is outstanding keep drinking poland spring lets see all chlorine, mercury and not purified i like getting paid to buy my products and they are awesome so to the moron who said it dont work well keep working the rest of your life CALLED PRISONER OF WORK KEEP WORKING FOR SOMEONE WILL GO NOWHERE THATS THE FACTS THANK GOD I KNOW LONGER HAVE TO HAVE FUN IN YOUR JOB |
Joe Texas | 8:03pm on Monday, August 25th, 2008 |
It's a scam to sell you tapes and seminars. The products are a by product of the real business - tapes and seminars.
Ask your diamond to see the schedule C business portion of his tax return to prove his income claims, not a copy of some old check that he may have received years ago.
And then tell me what your upline says. He'll tell you it's private or none of your business because the actualy document is likely to be embarrassing. |
brendan lexington, ky | 11:11am on Monday, August 25th, 2008 |
I THINK ITS A GOOD SYSTEM PEOPLE PUTTING IT DOWN CAUSE THEY PROBALY NEVER TRIED IT...IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR LIKE 200$ YOU CAN START YOUR OWN BUISNESS SELLIN ALL THAT STUFF...I MEAN YOU GOT TO WORK HARD THEY DIDNT SAY IT WAS GET RICH QUICK...IF YOU DONT DO IT TO MAKE MONEY THEN AT LEAST SIGN UP ANYWAYS BUY STUFF U WOULD USUALLY BUY FROM THE SITE AT LEAST U WOULD GET SOME OF WHAT YOU SPEND BACK AT THE END OF THE MONTH...PEOPLE BE REAL ALL THE PEOPLE WITH NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY R JUST MAD THEY DIDNT MAKE OR QUIT |
Aaron KANSAS | 3:57pm on Sunday, August 24th, 2008 |
Has anyone noticed that people putting leve "1" are usually not even putting there name on them because they are so ashamed of there lame decissions? |
Ivan Portland | 7:54pm on Friday, August 22nd, 2008 |
Whats amusing to me is.. I have talked to a lot of Amway/Quixtar people that talk about how much money they make, but they are never willing to actually give me any hard proof.
It should be rather easy, add up any money you've made, deduct all expenses incurred. For kicks, add in how much time you spent on it.
Or even simpler, show me your tax return. That should be enough to convince me right there. |
DIAMOND IN THE MAKING PARADISE | 12:20am on Thursday, August 21st, 2008 |
success does not happen over night, it's n0t easy, and most fail (98% of the world is broke).
wealthy people make their money through duplication! elvis presley, warren buffet, bill gates, and all franchising corporations use duplication to create wealth. for less than $200, you can own a private franchise corporation that creates millions over a lifetime. amway global gives you access to that, a opportunity to have your own private franchise where, if you do the work properly, you can have all the time and money you want! |
bdm US | 1:32am on Wednesday, August 20th, 2008 |
Quixstar is a menace. read about it by googling "Exploring the Menace called QUIXTAR and AMWAY " |
SEAN BK | 8:13am on Tuesday, August 12th, 2008 |
wow all you people are brainwashed to believe that quixtar works.
ahahahahah bunch of morons. it's quite similar to the primerica bull shyt meeting i once attend. the funny thing is both company are using the same tactics. ahahahaha fuckers
i heard the same poor friend scenario at primerica and others too. i guess both companies get their psychology scare tactics from one source.
they are alot companies out there that are un-ethical, but does not mean they are illegal because people have the right to choose whether to join or not.
for example walmart, locking its employees in to do work overnight at minimum wage? aren't they still in business too?
ahaahaha bunch fucking morons
by the way do some research on the company... it used to be amway but they owners just reorganized and changed the name ahahaaha |
Rose New york | 9:19pm on Friday, August 8th, 2008 |
How many products are FDA approved from this company? How safe is it? How do i find more info about it? And who are on these peoples back and for what reason? I'm trying to find out a little more about this company, well because I just got in a few weeks ago. I don't know if it was a right thing to do. |
Joe Texas | 12:47pm on Wednesday, August 6th, 2008 |
Bill from Maryland "
I have been doing this for 8 years now and finally made it to emerald which brings me about 200k a year yes i worked hard yes it took so long but hey i made it and this is part time."
Being that "Bill" just made emerald, means he probably has three legs at 7500 PV for six months. Quixtar says an average emerals makes $72,000 a year. If Bill just "made emerald", it would be impossible for him to take in $200,000 a year when he "just made it". It's these kinds of exaggerations that are used to recruit unknowing prospects and leads to newbies quitting right away when they realize the deception. |
Joe Texas | 8:08pm on Tuesday, August 5th, 2008 |
Quixtar is a poor business opportunity. Some people do succeed, but they become slaves of the business. In a business where most IBO's lose money and more than half quit each year, there is no significant residual income, except for maybe a very few old timers high up on the pyramid. Add in the expenses of the cd's and functions and most IBO's "working the system" are taking losses while thinking they are successful. |
brien ny | 9:52pm on Sunday, August 3rd, 2008 |
best decison i made in my life if i had listened to my broke friend id still be tossing burgers at mcdonalds started this business at 20 im now 23 and headed for ruby qualification on my way to diamond and then never have to work in a job ever again oh yeah thank the Lord i listened to my upline and really does it matter he makes more then me who cares i am on my way to diamond and loving every minute of this wonderful opportunity i know it worked for me can it work for you maybe i followed the 9 step program to a tee and now headed to the right direction wont be broke in a job ever again good luck to all |
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