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dave new york city | 3:16pm on Monday, September 29th, 2008  |
my goodness i didnt know we need to prove anything to anyone least of all someone i dont know lol its a joke how many negative people there are in the world makes my life alot easier seeing people still work for a living. Its funny the economy is so bad try getting a job now how about the stock market plunging this is the best business in the world costs practially nothing to join and i buy pretty much the same things everyone else does. Keep working in your job is it safe hmm called prisoner of work keep working for someone see where you end up its CALLED THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE LOL this business i am so gald i have finally after 4 years which actually was way too long have my 3k a month guaranteed residual income have to prove nothing to no one because really the only person who knows how successful you are is yourself and i can truly say not even close to being rich but it beats working for anyone
Its funny how people say this ia a cult really funny thats why my downline is making so much more then me the only pyramid is in your stupid head dream on work in corporate america thats called a big time pyramid unless your the president or ceo. Stop your whining that you work for a boss in a job hey you think your job when you wake up tomorrow will still be there i know my business keeps making money 6.3 billion in sales last year dont affect me this business youe job hmm you could be headed to the unemployment line keep thinking negative in life makes my business so much easier ha ha ha what a bunch of people who know nothing about a business best laundry detergent in the world buddy best water in the world keep drinking poland spring hope you lol like all that chlorine and mercury what a joke goodbye to all your negative idiots that live with their mommy in a cave somewhere in the woods probably 500 lbs and no life working in a jack of all bosses job making 50k what a sad joke |
Jen VA/SC | 10:10am on Monday, September 29th, 2008 |
You know I just left my 1st function in NC and I was able to experience one of the most amazing events of my life..I mean red carpet and all. I was introduced to this a while ago and to be honest I did not believe in it. After time and going to a few of the open meetings I realized that set aside the possible money that I could be making the people were just amazing. Life is so short and we all at some point have been negative I mean we are human...but, even when I have had my moments of being like that my support team has been around to help me up. Even before I became an IBO. So just be thankful that you have been given a chance to meet wonderful and caring people who yes may benefit from you, but don't really care if they do or not. They are there to be your friend and help you. You never know who may change there mind or who you may have help save. My love saved me and introduced me to this business. I am thankful everyday that he did and not for the Diamond status...I mean I am totally excited about that, but just to be around honest, loving, caring, and just all around GREAT people who love to have a good time with out drinking and drugs. I did not know I could have so much fun with out a drink in my hand. So to my upline....THANK YOU! You all have helped make a difference in my life and I love you all~
Thinking and Seeing Positive,
J~Z |
Johnny Philly | 6:35pm on Sunday, September 28th, 2008  |
Joe Schmo guy, they really got you huh? Its a common similarity that every person in the "business" talks the same way. They all say, next march, or next year, or next month etc. Always future tense when referring to income. You know why? Cause its never gonna happen. Nope, its not. They can never prove it. Show me the money!!! I know, you're upset cause you can't. Keep chasing that shadow their pal, im sure one day you'll look back and see what an incredible waste of time it all was. And money. Perhaps by grace of God, some of your old friends that decided not to join the cult will take you back. And at that point, maybe they will hire you too. |
Joe Schmo Nebraska | 6:56pm on Friday, September 26th, 2008 |
Oh ya, one more thing. Diamonds and emeralds can make way more than what the FDIC has required us to tell people. Diamonds are supposed to make a $250,000 a year. My upline diamond made over $1,000,000 last year. Just a thought |
Joe Schmo Nebraska | 6:52pm on Friday, September 26th, 2008 |
oh ya, almost forgot. I'll post a jpeg of my $20,000 bonus check I get next year for Mr. Joe Chabo here and all the rest of you who are dumbasses and don't get into this this business. Sorry about calling you dumbasses, but there really is no better word for the people who turn this opportunity down. |
Joe Schmo Nebraska | 6:48pm on Friday, September 26th, 2008 |
Wow!!! I cannot believe how naive some of you people are. Quixtar is quite possibly the best thing that has ever happened in the history of United States. Okay, that's goin to the extreme, but I am really starting to believe that. Quixtar basically allows you to do this: Instead of getting drunk every night and screwin off in college for four years, then working for the next fifty years of your life after college, Quixtar allows you to reverse that and work hard for four years in college with some fun, then do whatever the hell you want for the next fifty. It's called residual income!!! I just started college and will be at 7500 PV by next March. That means I'll be making $45,000 a year, no, wait did I forget to add the $20,000 dollar yearly bonus Quixtar gives out to people who reach 7500 PV and maintain it for a year? Well darn, I guess I did, so I guess that means by the end of my sophmore year in college I'll be making AT LEAST $65,000 a year. So that means if I would do nothing my junior year to help this business grow, I would still make $65,000. Now that's what I like about residual income!! Can you tell me of any junior in college that makes $65,000 a year doing nothing. That's right- Me in a couple years. The only people who fail at this business are the ones who get disappointed when they see their first couple paychecks and then they quit. It's not a get rich quick scheme. It's a you invest your time into this for a good solid year or two, then you reap the incredible benefits I had just mentioned. I'm not even trying to be a jackass to anybody either. This really works. Don't let yourself down if thoses first few paychecks aren't huge. It might take a year or two. Let's say if it even takes you five years to do what I am doing in one. Is it still worth that extra $65,000? Hell yeah it is. |
Sally FL | 6:44pm on Thursday, September 25th, 2008  |
I don't know much about the program but my comment is about the 'gifts' in the Ribbon The Gift of Choice. We received one of the Elite cards as a gift. Found out that the gift card was $300. The gifts offered are so cheap, some of which you can buy at Target for less than $50. We tried redeeming the card for the $300, cash, but in order to do that you have to go back to the gift-giver and they need to return the card for you. That would be just plain rude on our part so I guess we'll have to choose a gift from the cheap assortment that's offered. Maybe, we can sell the card on eBay!? |
Joe Chabo CT | 1:20pm on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 |
Whoever says they made money from this, prove it by posting a jpeg of the check you received from them. It's a scam and if it wasn't, the mainstream media would be covering it. I attended several "cult like" meetings and had many questions which were never answered. I attended another meeting at someone's house only to watch a grown man try and push this cleaning product on us by polishing pennies. |
Too Funny Where Im At | 3:55am on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 |
What does IBO mean anyway? Internet Bimbo Online? lmao |
not telling who cares | 3:52am on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 |
Some one just asked me to join Quixtar and I'm glad I did a little checking into first to see what it is all about. After reading all the comments on here I think I'll definately pass on this. All you negative folks on here with the attitudes are an adorable black hole of need... Do whatever yanks your chains I'm not interested... lol |
Joe Texas | 11:44am on Monday, September 22nd, 2008 |
Mickie, it's all good if you joined just to sell stuff and make a few bucks. But with Quixtar prices, wouldn't it be just as well to buy your stuff from Walmart at half the prices instead of overpaying and then getting back $8? Do a serious price comparison and you'll be shocked.
Macey, can you explain how being an IBO "helps" people? |
Macey Trinidad | 7:54am on Monday, September 22nd, 2008 |
Thanks for helping us do a great job. I'm an IBO and we help people. I can suggest that you can try that too! |
kimberly trinidad and tobago west indies | 4:51pm on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 |
quixtar is the greatest thing thats ever happened to me and let me share a few words of wisdom to you low life people who assume this business is bogus its not so.so you all can kiss my black ass |
Mickie Jersey | 11:46pm on Friday, September 19th, 2008  |
Wowsers! I just read many comments from both sides. This blog is filled with negativity and name calling. My question is, Is it really worth it?
Just like with anything else there's going to be positive and negative thoughts for and against, Quixtar/Amway Global, in this case.
It works for some and not for others. It seems the more ambitious a person is/becomes the better it works for him/her.
Yes, I am an IBO. No, I didn't come into the business to make millions of dollars. I just came into the business to supplement my income. Yeah, I'm going to be honest, I been in business a couple years, Do I make a lot of money? Not a tremendous amount by today's standards. I do supplement my salary though.
I'll also say this. At my first mtg. I was told my first check would be about $7. They lied, it was $8 and some odd cents. I was informed that the average check per month is $105 per IBOship. I was told about "Kate", educational materials, and the website, I was informed that I didn't have to participate but I could if I wanted. I wanted to and did. I figured out quite quickly that ppl get paid for tools.
One more thing, I will say I am choosing not to let my household bills go astray-(I never would) or I'm not going to go into a any amount of debt to continue my business or ruin my credit history. The business has actually helped me pay off some of my bills quicker then they would of been paid. I choose my own destiny and won't allow anyone to convince me otherwise. It's a matter of making the right choices for me and my family. If that means a nice little supplemental income, sobeit, if I ever become platinum, emerald, or diamond---that's just a bonus.
Some ppl. may say I have the wrong attitude about it but hey- to each his/her own.
I stay in the business for a couple of reasons. One is the relationships I've made, one is for the supplemental income, and the other is I love to travel and get to go places I'd never dreamed of. I have fun.
I lied, one more thing, my friend is an IBO as well, but an inactive one. She is still getting paid for work she done 10 years ago. It's not a huge amount but hey! it's something. |
Joe Texas | 12:35pm on Friday, September 19th, 2008 |
Matthew, first off, thanks for working in the military and helping to protect our freedoms.
Regards to quixtar, you said you are working your business 2 hours per week to earn a few extra bucks, if I understood you correctly. If that was accurate, I don't think the critics of the business are talkig about you. The "scam" part os tricking people into joining, and getting people to quit college to join quixtar, and to give them false hope of retiring at age 26, not having a job, and walking the beaches of the world. It's just not gonna happen except for a very rare few people. Yet it is promoted as being the norm. |
Matthew Gallagher MCAS Cheery Point, NC | 8:07am on Friday, September 19th, 2008 |
I am an IBO. Since some of you non-IBOs seem to think that we all are too high on our pedestals, and that we are all saying the same thing over and over, let me try a different approach. I am a newly registered IBO. I am also a member of the armed forces, US Navy to be exact. I will tell you straight up that no, I am not earning a kagillion dollars or whatnot. But I AM earning another paycheck along with my lousy government check. For what? Putting like 2 hours of work into my business a week. In other words, I am earning some extra money without having to work another job so I can still excel at my military career. So why shoot holes in something that is working for people? Maybe it doesn't work for YOU, but that doesn't mean it is a scam. To call it one just so people can get people into whatever money-maker you are participating online is... Well... Kind of low. Why dont you just post something saying how great your way of making money is instead of bashing on another? Anyway, that is how I feel about the situation. I am not projecting myself as high and mighty, just a guy who likes to earn a little extra income without having another part time job. Thank you. |
Recari Dominican Republic | 5:37pm on Thursday, September 18th, 2008 |
I have read a lot of your posts on this subject, starting with the first one, but only had the time to make it halfway thru. I'm foreign so my market might work a bit differently than yours, but I want to answer some of the basic concerns that keep coming up: 1)"Pyramid Scheme": my sponsor has 3 diamonds in his downline and yet, he is still an emerald. Your growth is only limited by the work you put into it. 2)"IBO's do all the purchasing": 20% of my purchases have been for personal use (because I like the products) the rest I sell and make fast money and I also get a commission for the money spent. 3)"It ends your relatinships": if your marriage is so weak that you cannot put up with your spouse puting in an extra couple of hours of work that will pay off later on then you shouldn't be pointing the finger at the business. 4)"They don't let you advertise or display at stores": this is a direct marketing business model. If the corporation allows that, some people with extra cash might have an unfair advantage because they would get more exposure. The business would no longer be accesible to Joe Public. It would be like any other product or service. Everyone has the same chance to succeed with these rules and if you cannot sell products this way maybe you're not cut out for it, but don't say it's a scam. 5) "Why don't more people do it?": I think I explained myself in the previous one. Most people are not cut out for this. You have to stand being rejected by your friends and still remain friends with them. Most people cannot handle rejection. I know a diamond who was rejected the first 60 times he showed the business to other people. How many of you out there have the same determination. And yet, he stuck to it and he just made founder and some extra qualification I don't yet understand and he will be receiving 17,500,000 dominican pesos. At today's exchange rate that's half a million dollars. IN ONE CHECK!!! 6) "Cult, Brainwashing, etc.": this business takes a lot of motivation to succeed because of what I just said. Have you ever seen any motivational speaker?? He will say the same things you would hear at a Quixtar seminar. I have met some extraordinary people here, not just rich financially, but also from a personal stand point.
That's all I have to say and to the other IBO's answering posts here I know sometimes it's frustrating to hear people knock what you do just because they weren't cut out for it, but you cannot argue by using foul or offensive language. It helps them prove their point that we are not professionals at what we do. |
Joe Texas | 12:03pm on Thursday, September 18th, 2008 |
Hey Alice, instead of bragging about how everyone will be cleaning your toilets, why not prove you can hire someone to clean your toilets. Are you a diamond? Diamonds cannot afford to hire people to clean their toilets. Do the math. |
alice Los angeles | 10:49pm on Wednesday, September 17th, 2008 |
All you negative people out there it's ok what ever you say because we don't really need you...oh yeah I forgot we do need you lmao Your the people who are going to wash our clothes, wash our toilets and cook for us ect... While we are out traveling you'll be stuck working for some one elses dreams LOOSERS!!!!! |
Joe Texas | 1:19pm on Monday, September 15th, 2008 |
Funny how all these fired up IBO's all think they have conquered the world and the rest of us are "losers". I have yet to see a single IBO back up their claims about being free or making the kind of income they claim. I can tell Jack's story is full of holes.
Even if you achieve a diamond income, which is $146,000, all you will have achieved is a middle class lifestyle after paying medical insurance, investing some for retirement, monthly bills. And you think you ar "free", you are not. People are quitting quixtar every day, You have to work hard to keep replacing people who quit and I bet many diamonds are in debt trying to show a fabulous diamond lifestyle.
I challenge anyone here to do the math. Take an average diamond income, subtract income taxes, medical insurance and other monthly obligations, etc. What you will see is a very middle class income and lifestyle. Not saying that is a bad thing, but with all the effort involved, having a job is easier. |
MR KNOW IT ALL EVERYWHERE | 12:04pm on Sunday, September 14th, 2008 |
LOL !!! YA MUST GET A GREAT PENSION SELLING ENERGY DRINKS !!! AND HOW BOUT MEDICAL INSURANCE ??? LEMME GUESS YOU MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO OFFSET THE COST MEDICAL INSURANCE??? LOL WHAT A JOKE. ALL THESE ZOMBIES TRYING TO CONVINCE THE " BROKE LOSERS" WHO WORK EVERYDAY AND HAVE TO FEAR BEING LAID OFF....HOW MANY TESTIMONIALS IN THIS BLOG ARE CARBON COPY RIP OFFS OF ONE ANOTHER. AND THE CRAMMER IS OF COURSE ALWAYS CORRECT, AS WELL AS THE SPELLING. PLEASE. I FEEL BAD FOR ALL THE VICTIMS OF THIS SCHEME AND TO THE "FUTURE MILLIONAIRES" ILL SEE YOU ON THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE WHEN I RETIRE WITH A FULL PENSION AND MY 401K WHILE YOUR LOOKING FOR A MINIMUM WAGE JOB AT AGE 60 BECAUSE THE VITAMINS(LOL) YOU WERE TRYING TO PUSH DIDNT PROVIDE A SECURE FUTURE....LOLOLOL !!! |
GOD UP ABOVE | 11:06am on Sunday, September 14th, 2008 |
LOL YOU BRAINWASHED MOTHER F#CKERS !!!! |
steve nj | 8:23pm on Saturday, September 13th, 2008 |
its funny how people knock a business they are the ones that live in caves with their mothers this business has made my life different totally. I know what i make in this business and for the people that dont believe the hell with them. I love this business because quite frankly i dont need to work in a corporate job anymore took me long enough 11 years which really is a long time but ive made it to emerald. I am upset i havent made diamond yet but grateful for the opportunity my upline gave me because it changed my life totally. I am so grateful me and my wife that my wife doesnt need to work in her stupid job anymore thank God for that. I have done well but havent reached my full potential but i know with the time and effort and my wifes support i can make this business work for me. I hope everyone gets the dream they want and its a shame their are so many negative people in the world that will say anything because they are so unhappy in their lives and just like to blog negative thoughts. I am going to my positive blog in opportunity zone very interesting jack li what you said about 2700 a month i mean thats alot of business im not saying it cant be done but congrats you know you do have a long way to go but at least you believe in your dream dont let anyone take that away from you again congrats lol i think there are more negative people in here then positive so all i can say is they teach you in school to get a job and then go to work do you think they say do a business be an owner of course not because when you work in a job you really think 5-10k a month is safe not anymore with all the layoffs and takeovers its best to have a business of your own like i do. I watch people go to work every day making5-10k a month some but i dont have to wake up with an alarm clock set at 530 or 6am i get up when i like and do have a great life with great kids with a nice pool not rich but very well taken care of but will be diamond then ill be sort of rich lol. I can go and come as i please cant get fired cant get laid off and the check always comes on the 15th no matter how bad the economy is so for me it worked for others well try something different if this is not for you and good luck |
jack li | 8:13pm on Saturday, September 13th, 2008 |
personally i could care less what you think mr keep working in a job and by the way i do have a job that pays me well and this business makes me the money i said. I dont really care what you believe i didnt ask for your comment loser |
Joe Texas | 1:01pm on Friday, September 12th, 2008 |
Jack, your story is so full of holes that it can't even hold a drop of water. You claim to make over $2700 a month with only 26 downline?
That means you are selling $15,000 worth of products a month? I don't believe that for a second.
And I have to inform you that your goals are too low. I know many people who earn much more than $5000 a month from their jobs alone, as opposeed to you, who probably has a job and a second job working quixtar for little or nothing while pretending to be successful.
Maybe one of you can explain why a triple diamond cannot make his house payments? |
IBOKLOR Location unknown | 1:53pm on Wednesday, September 10th, 2008 |
These negative people on here are really clueless on how this business runs. It really isn't worth any IBO's time to try and explain anything to them. They have top, well-known, powerful and famous leaders of the world speaking for the business at the FUNCTION. Hence the word "FOR" not against. You negative people out there need to get your facts straight, and for the people who claim to be "IBO" once for a couple of months and it didn't work for them, too bad you couldn't make it, we're making it to diamond with or without YOU.
This business has people who had no problem with financial security, leadership skills are what attracted most people in the long run. For the negative people, you are the typical people that I choose to simply banish from my world of association. Obviously you guys aren't making it anywhere and are just miserable. That's why you have every minute of everyday to come on here to try and find the most negative comment you can to leave on here. Don't bother replying back to me... why? I'm not even gonna come back on here. AND I'm not interested in what you have to say, neither do I care about a single word you have to say. I have better people in life than you'll ever be.
DIAMOND all the way BABY. GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE IBOS! PETER ISLAND HERE I COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREEDOM! |
jack li | 7:38pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
amway was fined isnt it funny we are still alive and continue to be a billion dollar business were still here for 50 years and will be here until you retire at least working in a job we have awesome products outstanding leadership quixtar amway global rule where is the jobs today gone so many people unemployed and they had a paycheck now they are on the unemployment line dont want to be there thank you very much like i said platinum in this business is a joke easy money all the way to the bank |
jack li | 7:35pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
lol massive financial losses how do you figure that are they buying the entire store please i spend lets see 500 a month that i normally spend just me only cds about 20 bucks a month if that books that i buy anyway because i am a reader maybe 50 bucks financial massive losses its because they dont know how to do this business thats why most fail they either quit dont go to every meeting like i do lazy or just plain not cut out for it. I dont want to work for the rest of my life and I thank my sponsor who is ruby for making me truly understand what it means to be an independent business owner.
Good luck living paycheck to paycheck |
jack li | 7:32pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
who cares as long as i make money dont matter to me good luck at least in your job what you earn a paycheck thats a joke your nothing more then mediocore and in a payjob you can be laid off tomorrow please hey if you wish to stay in your job go ahead and by the way i dont have lol 250ibos i only have 26 most of my business is customers which brought me to the level i am at and if you really think this is a pyramid think again my friend who i sponsored makes more then me so there goes your so called pyramid people always knock any business that does well i know where i am headed straight to diamond and no stupid blog or negativity will stand in my way a job is a prisoner of work period |
Jesus TEXAS | 7:18pm on Tuesday, September 9th, 2008 |
Personally, I don't believe in that bullshit!, if you want a succesful future, then work hard to obtain it, there are a lot of ways you can choose for having wealthy and happiness.
I recomend people not to be weak, and stay away from those IBOS, diamonds, emeralds or whatever they're called wash their brain and make them pay for having a job or a simple membership card. |
Joe Texas | 1:20pm on Monday, September 8th, 2008 |
Jack: Lets face it even if you go platinum or ruby whats wrong with 2700-4500 a month
Joe: Nothing wrong except if you actually make that, you probably have 250 IBO's downline from you who are losing money or making nothing. If they are entrenched in the "system", then they may be suffering massive financial losses. That's why there is a pyramid comparison. In a job setting, at least everyone, even the lowest ranking employee earns a check and has a net gain at the end of the month.
Jack: its funny how some say its a pyramid when there job is a pyramid unbelievable and besides to me whoever works the hardest of the people i sponsor make the most money
Joe: Even if your company may have a pyramidal hierarchy, it's doesn't change the fact that quixtar is a pyramid. Just because you call the pot black doesn't mean the kettle isn't.
Jack: not a pyramid ftc dont think were a pyramid but anyway good luck wish you well
Joe: The FTC fined Amway for false income claims and said amway was legal because of the retail sales rule. If you teach "buy from yourself" or if you don't have customers who are no IBO's you may indeed be running an illegal pyramid. |
jack li | 11:09am on Monday, September 8th, 2008 |
well thats not true but whatever you say hey it works for me what can i say its not easy nor hard i just follow the system i think to each his own in whatever you do in your life wish everyone well in whatever field they wish to enter i just choose not to work for anyone anymore so tired of my friends and people saying i have no time no life no money bored work so many hours i just dont feel like working for anyone anymore anything wrong with that i do quite well here i seek people young and ambitous for me ages 18-30 and take it from there. Lets face it even if you go platinum or ruby whats wrong with 2700-4500 a month all the time dont have to go diamond im going diamond though its all your attitude its funny how some say its a pyramid when there job is a pyramid unbelievable and besides to me whoever works the hardest of the people i sponsor make the most money not a pyramid ftc dont think were a pyramid but anyway good luck wish you well |
Joe Texas | 3:23pm on Thursday, September 4th, 2008 |
Jack, by your reasoning, we should all play the lottery because it's obvious that some people win and become wealthy. In fact I think more people win lotteries than those who go diamond. |
jack li | 7:41pm on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 |
thats the problem you say most dont make it does it mean you cant i dont believe in failure and it does make money for me go get a job and work for someone does this make u happy if so great if not come aboard one of the best businesses which cost nothing hardly to join and have a dream go for it no negative people who are so miserable will bring me down stay with negative become even more negative cant wont not going to all words that get you no where the best water in the world awesome no chrorine no mercury in the water all pure awesome go diamond baby all the way |
Joe Texas | 12:13pm on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 |
Tabby from Maryland, you're in the wrong business. I make $5000 to $6000 sitting on my butt blogging about why quixtar doesn't work for most. |
tabby maryland | 9:58am on Wednesday, September 3rd, 2008 |
I AM AN IBO AND I DONT TRY TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO JOIN, ALL I DO IS SHOP AND GET PEOPLE TO SHOP AND THAT MAKES ME 3-4000.00 A MONTH..INSTEAD OF BUYIN HOUSEHOLD ITEMS AT WALMART, I BUY THEM ON MY WEBSITE AND I GET MONEY BACK..PLUS ALL THE PEOPLE SHOPPING MY WEBSITE I GET A % OF WHAT THEY BUY..IF U WANT TO GO INTO THIS BUSINESS THATS THE WAY TO MAKE MONEY FAST, GETTING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP IS ALITTLE HARD, SO JUST GET THEM TO SHOP...BUT I FOR ONE LOVE THE BUSINESS AND I AM MAKING MONEY SITTING ON MY ASS AT HOME..LOL |
Joe Texas | 6:00pm on Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008 |
beebe, nj said:
"Ever since i became an IBO i have been such a better person. I enjoy my life to the fullest instead of wandering through life depressed and miserable because almost everyone around me is miserable. This business has taught me to stand up and stand strong. Enjoy life the fullest...Go diamond baby!!:
JOe says: I noticed you didn't mention that you actually made any money from quixtar. All ofyou brainwashed IBO's come dropping in here talking about being nicer or whatever, that's all good, but did you get into business to make money or not? |
beebe nj | 11:10am on Tuesday, September 2nd, 2008 |
Hell Yea Quixtar is where its at. Dont listen to all those stupid people telling you to get a job, work 40 50 60 hours a week and suck up to a boss for the rest of your life so that u can retire at 65 and die. If you really want to be successful as an IBO, all you need is a dream. You have to protect your dream because theres too many stupid people that try to steal your dream. Ever since i became an IBO i have been such a better person. I enjoy my life to the fullest instead of wandering through life depressed and miserable because almost everyone around me is miserable. This business has taught me to stand up and stand strong. Enjoy life the fullest...Go diamond baby!! |
bryan ny | 7:41pm on Monday, September 1st, 2008 |
well some people choose the wrong friends in this business not everyone lies unfortunately for you your sponsor did thats the way it goes as for me i dont see how it alientates your friends and family maybe some people are like this my friends are still my friends whether they join or not this is a great business for me and met some nice guys and girls in here and they dont lie to me if you were brainwashed well the only brainwashing was when you were younger you were told to go to school and get a job please give me a break if you work this business its so easy its pathetic i am proud to be an ibo and so sick and tired of people being so damn negative i am not alientated by anyone and choose my friends carefully no one has lied to me and besides i work my own business i dont rely on my upline i rely on myself to make it happen and i dont need any luck but thank you good luck to everyone working in a job unemployment rate keeps rising people losing their homes you think a job with no security is going to save you making little raises and not getting anywhere if this is your idea of fun and destiny be my guest i celebrate free enterprise day thank God not labor day if you choose to work for someone its great if you choose this i choose to work for no one i can wake up in the morning and live free quixtar rules and no negative bullcrap will tell me it dont work have fun and good luck in your job |
Karen Virginia | 2:21am on Monday, September 1st, 2008 |
Oops! I hit enter before completing my comment. As I stated, a successful IBO is one who is manipulating downline and lying to prospects. I was an IBO for 18 mths and found myself paying false compliments to "prospects". I was losing respect for the average working citizen, especially those who had the good sense not to register with Quixtar. We were told to avoid association with Amway. Now, suddenly the Amway name is being embraced. Anyone IBO who denies this is either lying or brainwashed. I refused to be brainwashed and manipulated and regained control of my life. If you are honest with integrity and an independent thinker, this is not the business for you. For someone who doesn't mind lying, alientating family and friends and having others think for them,climb aboard and good luck to ya! |
Karen Virginia | 2:04am on Monday, September 1st, 2008 |
There is no doubt that some have been successful in Quixtar, all beit an extremely minute few. The problem is the type of person you have to become in order to be successful. Any IBO making lots of money is someone not to be trusted because they are manipulating downline and lying to prospects. I was an IBO |
jack nyc | 4:55am on Saturday, August 30th, 2008 |
well i have read many blogs in here and have never saw so many negative people in my life. A waste of time in life lets face it is working in your job for 40 years being medicore you call that ok and a success working for someone i think not. Here is how people see things in life they think everything is a scam i know people who hate donald trump why because he is rich and their not come on. The business is residual income because i am now a platinum well is this alot of money not really about 80k now part time not bad i do still work a job in wall street but tired of working for someone. Its funny how people bad mouth a business because they either quit, lazy etccc. In life not everyone was cut out to be a salesperson its hard business but to me the energy drinks which someone said is so funny hello how much is red bull and monster drink. The ole saying is to each his own i dont let negative people rule my life which is why most people stay broke called a prisoner of work which when you work for someone stop defending the idea that it is ok. Most people have no clue how to succeed in life becausee they are in fear of what is going to happen next which is why so many people today are poor medicore period. Do you want to stay broke working for your boss why not try saying to your boss take this job and shove it dont most of you feel this way. This business like any other takes time effort hard work and dedication and dont let anyone stop you from your dream especially broke friends and people like in here who live in caves with their family never coming out of the shadow. If you dont get rich in this business so what even if you make 1k more a month part time is this so bad lol its a joke that people dont see how easy this is to make money. Well keep working until your 72 oh by the way do you like to get up every morning forced to go to work and its nice a job keeps you by giving you a 3% raise with inflation today and gas prices its not much is it. This business costs so little it sick i love it see you in seven springs financial freedom baby.
Oh by the way see some of us dont celebrate labor day means you have been a prisoner of work all your life i celebrate free enterprise day its awesome in virginia the truth no one can stop you from being successful in this business dont let your broke friend make your decision. Cant wait to go ruby next level good day |
Sissy TN | 1:47am on Saturday, August 30th, 2008 |
So this is what I have to say about Quixtar, you people who sit there and say that its an awesome company and they support you listen carefully. My ex-husband is in quixtar, after joining he started listening to his upline (not a bad thing if you do have good people in it who really care about you) but when we fell on financial problems they were rather upset... Telling him not to slow down his purchases on the site. He insists the business costs nothing a month but with his monthly purchases, cost of kate, his cel-phone and all told he was putting 500$ into the business a month. Needless to say, he listened to them, the person telling him WAS after all a professional accountant. One month later our house was foreclosed on (didn't say my ex-hubby was bright when it came to common sense) when I yelled at him, his upline told him "She's the wrong kind of wife" he yet again listened and tried putting me in my place, which as I understand is hard when you are up to your knees in qwiksand^^. Reguardless I am hardly one to sit and let someone tell me I am not good enough to stand up for myself (oh yeah, we have three kids and still they advised him not to pay the mortgage cause the bank would lose money) and my children. BTW you try not being christian and being in any way affiliated with this business |
JT St. Louis | 4:39pm on Friday, August 29th, 2008 |
I have read many comments on this page, and I must say that the computer age really has killed grammar. Enough of that though, I am here to talk about Quixtar/Amway. The business plan of the Quixtar/Amway corporation is laughable at best, depending on sales of the business plan rather than sheer volume as was suggested in an earlier post. The idea is to sign up as many IBO's (Independent Business Owners) as possible and then to make money off of them and the IBO's that they sign up, etc. I will say that the products aren't all bad, in fact I was rather fond of their energy drink line. The problem with their products is that you cannot sell them in ways that would generally allow you move them in volume.Another problem with the products is the price, they are simply too expensive once shipping is added in to be considered a deal. Who wants to give up the ability to buy something at a lower price and take it home that instant for a higher priced item you have to wait on to recieve. What Quixtar/Amway really sells more than anything else is a hyped up psychology of success. The meetings and functions are all quite cultic and never give specifics, they are just rallies at which everyone bows down to Ray Krock and Robert Kiyosaki and their idealism. This is not a real opportunity for most, it is a waste of time in fact for most people. |
Joe Texas | 12:34pm on Friday, August 29th, 2008 |
There is no residual income in quixtar. Try not working the business for a while and it will fall apart like a cheap suit.
Quixtar and Amway sales were 7 billion. Over a million IBO's made the sales, but mostly to themselves. Quixtar IBO's move less than 5% of their products to non IBO's.
Walmart in contrast has 374 billion on sales and has 2 million employees. Who is more efficient? |
james nc | 4:57am on Thursday, August 28th, 2008 |
well to answer your question why everyone is not in it its simple not everyone has an open mind most people keep their mind closed. If you think about it does everyone like mcdonalds or being a real estate agent not everyone likes to do this type of selling business. Its true alot of people dont make it truly because they either dont work the system or they just cant handle it being let down when they show a plan. This company doesnt need to advertise on tv although they just started to recently and they dont need to put alot of these products on shelves because they have us as endorsers doing this type of work. I never said it would be easy and i dont know about alot of people that i saw posting things on this site but it has done well for me and my family am i rich not even close but not bad part time. I use the products and so does my family and friends and it makes me money whoich is all i know so far is it a get rich scheme no because they tell you its an opportunity to make 15ok in 2-5 years doesnt mean it wont take you 10 years or more to do this. It is kind of easy if you really think about it all I do is for example i work out in a gym talk to people about some products and if they want to be a customer great if not i move on i dont chase people that want to work for the rest of their lives. I dont like working for anyone like a boss it truly is lousy. I think alot of people try it and give up after a couple of months because they dont understand it and besides if your going to buy a book for example in barnes and noble why not get point value for it i think this is a good business and it makes me some extra cash i didnt have before so i see this as a good thing |
Skalla Miami | 3:14pm on Wednesday, August 27th, 2008 |
Did those last few posts all come from the same person? Compare them and decide . . . What I want to know is: if it works so well, why aren't so many more people in it? What happens if we all joined and all recruited everyone else, lol? There's a ceiling on everything, so don't tell me there's no ceiling!! |
Jake Iowa | 11:39pm on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
Sorry, but when I read a review or a post, and The grammar is so poor I tend to not believe it. Try making sense in your so-called success stories. Yes I attended these seminars! If the products are so great why are they not in stores, like the energy drinks they keep talking about! Come-on get real people! |
steve ny | 8:56am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
QUIXTAR RULES awesome business doing well so glad i didnt listen to my brainwashed friend that said it cant work such a loser he was why he is so broke today making 50k pathetic best products see us at the jacob javits this week for national spotlight love it glad i dont have to soon work for anyone anymore fire your boss can you fire your boss lol you are working as a prisoner of work forever pathetic to work for someone today will never make more then your higher people in a job thats called a pyramid inour business the harder you work the more you make dont matter who sponsored what please if you dont want to do it no one is putting a gun to your head STAY BROKE |
john nyc | 8:53am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
boring delusional moron is that what bdm in the us stands for keep reading negative sites you may just end up broke probably are already lol keep your day job hmm wonder if youll get laid off ill be waving while everyone goes to work |
DAVID li | 8:51am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
so ivan from portland you want hard proof well lets see well at least the people i know that are successful i can name you many ive been to there 5 million dollar houses seen their check one is my best friend he is not rich but made 24k last month and why do we have to prove anything if you work hard you make money simple as that to me its a joke so easy its pathetic i went platinum in 8 months thats how easy it was to reach 7500 pts i never said it would be easy but hey just bought a new tv with my check from the business not alot but hey better then working in a job |
brian nyc | 8:48am on Tuesday, August 26th, 2008 |
funny how so many people need to curse to get there frusteration out because they are so mediocre themselves. Its funny how so many negative people knock this down. For your information i dont need to prove anything to anyone it works because i just went platinum well what does this mean well i put in about 15-20 hours a week and make an additional 2,600 not bad and by the way it is residual i have been getting this the last 2 months same check almost so for most people will always knock down a business and besides whats wrong with amway my dad did very well and by the way take a good hard look at what a job does for you called nothing like being medicore keep working until your 72 the new retirement age got a job what a joke so many people getting laid off this business there are no layoffs as long as you listen to your broke friends youll stay broke by the way would you take advice from someone broke and medicore well maybe you do not me thank God i didnt listen to my broke friend id probably be working at walmart doing nothing with my life.
Oh by the way x/s energy drinks are awesome i make money just having them buy this as a customer and the water is outstanding keep drinking poland spring lets see all chlorine, mercury and not purified i like getting paid to buy my products and they are awesome so to the moron who said it dont work well keep working the rest of your life CALLED PRISONER OF WORK KEEP WORKING FOR SOMEONE WILL GO NOWHERE THATS THE FACTS THANK GOD I KNOW LONGER HAVE TO HAVE FUN IN YOUR JOB |
Joe Texas | 8:03pm on Monday, August 25th, 2008 |
It's a scam to sell you tapes and seminars. The products are a by product of the real business - tapes and seminars.
Ask your diamond to see the schedule C business portion of his tax return to prove his income claims, not a copy of some old check that he may have received years ago.
And then tell me what your upline says. He'll tell you it's private or none of your business because the actualy document is likely to be embarrassing. |
brendan lexington, ky | 11:11am on Monday, August 25th, 2008 |
I THINK ITS A GOOD SYSTEM PEOPLE PUTTING IT DOWN CAUSE THEY PROBALY NEVER TRIED IT...IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR LIKE 200$ YOU CAN START YOUR OWN BUISNESS SELLIN ALL THAT STUFF...I MEAN YOU GOT TO WORK HARD THEY DIDNT SAY IT WAS GET RICH QUICK...IF YOU DONT DO IT TO MAKE MONEY THEN AT LEAST SIGN UP ANYWAYS BUY STUFF U WOULD USUALLY BUY FROM THE SITE AT LEAST U WOULD GET SOME OF WHAT YOU SPEND BACK AT THE END OF THE MONTH...PEOPLE BE REAL ALL THE PEOPLE WITH NEGATIVE THINGS TO SAY R JUST MAD THEY DIDNT MAKE OR QUIT |
Aaron KANSAS | 3:57pm on Sunday, August 24th, 2008 |
Has anyone noticed that people putting leve "1" are usually not even putting there name on them because they are so ashamed of there lame decissions? |
Ivan Portland | 7:54pm on Friday, August 22nd, 2008 |
Whats amusing to me is.. I have talked to a lot of Amway/Quixtar people that talk about how much money they make, but they are never willing to actually give me any hard proof.
It should be rather easy, add up any money you've made, deduct all expenses incurred. For kicks, add in how much time you spent on it.
Or even simpler, show me your tax return. That should be enough to convince me right there. |
DIAMOND IN THE MAKING PARADISE | 12:20am on Thursday, August 21st, 2008 |
success does not happen over night, it's n0t easy, and most fail (98% of the world is broke).
wealthy people make their money through duplication! elvis presley, warren buffet, bill gates, and all franchising corporations use duplication to create wealth. for less than $200, you can own a private franchise corporation that creates millions over a lifetime. amway global gives you access to that, a opportunity to have your own private franchise where, if you do the work properly, you can have all the time and money you want! |
bdm US | 1:32am on Wednesday, August 20th, 2008 |
Quixstar is a menace. read about it by googling "Exploring the Menace called QUIXTAR and AMWAY " |
SEAN BK | 8:13am on Tuesday, August 12th, 2008 |
wow all you people are brainwashed to believe that quixtar works.
ahahahahah bunch of morons. it's quite similar to the primerica bull shyt meeting i once attend. the funny thing is both company are using the same tactics. ahahahaha fuckers
i heard the same poor friend scenario at primerica and others too. i guess both companies get their psychology scare tactics from one source.
they are alot companies out there that are un-ethical, but does not mean they are illegal because people have the right to choose whether to join or not.
for example walmart, locking its employees in to do work overnight at minimum wage? aren't they still in business too?
ahaahaha bunch fucking morons
by the way do some research on the company... it used to be amway but they owners just reorganized and changed the name ahahaaha |
Rose New york | 9:19pm on Friday, August 8th, 2008 |
How many products are FDA approved from this company? How safe is it? How do i find more info about it? And who are on these peoples back and for what reason? I'm trying to find out a little more about this company, well because I just got in a few weeks ago. I don't know if it was a right thing to do. |
Joe Texas | 12:47pm on Wednesday, August 6th, 2008 |
Bill from Maryland "
I have been doing this for 8 years now and finally made it to emerald which brings me about 200k a year yes i worked hard yes it took so long but hey i made it and this is part time."
Being that "Bill" just made emerald, means he probably has three legs at 7500 PV for six months. Quixtar says an average emerals makes $72,000 a year. If Bill just "made emerald", it would be impossible for him to take in $200,000 a year when he "just made it". It's these kinds of exaggerations that are used to recruit unknowing prospects and leads to newbies quitting right away when they realize the deception. |
Joe Texas | 8:08pm on Tuesday, August 5th, 2008 |
Quixtar is a poor business opportunity. Some people do succeed, but they become slaves of the business. In a business where most IBO's lose money and more than half quit each year, there is no significant residual income, except for maybe a very few old timers high up on the pyramid. Add in the expenses of the cd's and functions and most IBO's "working the system" are taking losses while thinking they are successful. |
brien ny | 9:52pm on Sunday, August 3rd, 2008 |
best decison i made in my life if i had listened to my broke friend id still be tossing burgers at mcdonalds started this business at 20 im now 23 and headed for ruby qualification on my way to diamond and then never have to work in a job ever again oh yeah thank the Lord i listened to my upline and really does it matter he makes more then me who cares i am on my way to diamond and loving every minute of this wonderful opportunity i know it worked for me can it work for you maybe i followed the 9 step program to a tee and now headed to the right direction wont be broke in a job ever again good luck to all |
Paul DC Metro | 8:16pm on Tuesday, July 29th, 2008 |
Best opportunity out there... Get the real facts... Truly a first class Supplier (Quixtar, North America & Amway, Global). Great track record, been around for just under 50 years, 7 billion dollar company worldwide yearly. They own the Orlando, Magic..Hatteras Yachts... And either Steve Van Andel or Doug DeVos was the Chairman for the NATIONAL CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. Remember this its dependent on you, its not get rich quick with money shooting out the floppy drive. You work it, you'll make it! Just like anything... It's a vehicle that can get you where you want to go. Oh and if you still have doubts call the corporation or check the BBB. Anyhow, if you decide to listen to critics you get what they got, most likely not much in terms of all around prosperity! |
Melissa South Jersey | 8:03pm on Monday, July 28th, 2008 |
WOW! There are tons of comments here. I can only hope that someone manages to make it far enough to read mine.
I've tried Mary Kay, Primerica, Surveys online, and a few businesses of my own. (real business, where I either stocked candy, or made arts and crafts to sell, etc.)
I was not disillusioned about Quixtar when I joined the business, and the people who introduced me to the business allowed me to do adequate research AND try some of the products BEFORE I decided to go IBO.
Here's how Quixtar works:
You will have a very difficult time making this business work, if it's ONLY based on IBO purchaes. Retail must be involved as well, and your sponsors should be helping if not virtually doing the work for you, so you can learn from them as you grow.
You make money by VOLUME not Company Level. The two are not the same. Of course, large volumes will get you some notches in your belt, but there are some people making more $ at one level than many folks at 1 or two higher levels. It's all about how you build your business. Make NO mistake, it's merit based!
Technology can't replace people. Quixtar is not a wham-bam-thank-you-mam kind of business. If you want to build something that will last, with people that will last, the rules of conduct are actually more blessing than curse. But if you want a simpler exchange of time for money (legally of course :) then try some of the other alternatives online. (Like this one!) Just don't expect Quixtar to conform to other business models. Remember, Quixtar had to learn the hard way what loose marketing does today. In fact, the legitimacy of this business lies at the very heart of this entire debate, right? Your choice. Choose wisely what's best for you.
AND ONE MORE THING! Making personal insults may be good for entertainment purposes, but it doesn't add real value to the conversation. And it makes this opportunity look all the more like fluff. As if there's nothing tangible to say. (and yes, I'm sure I'll probrably catch a few for jumping on this little soap-box of mine. That's O.K. America's still a free country.) All I'm trying to say, is there's a lot of folks who are really trying to figure out the truth. They shouldn't have to wade through mud to get to it. |
Cookie ringgold | 10:27pm on Thursday, July 24th, 2008 |
Its funny i ran across this email. this is the first time i let myself be exposed to the negativity. Me and my boyfriend went so hard met at starbucks went to meeting gave numbers went to team call try to convince ppl its a good thing even though you dont really know anything about it... thats what we have been doing, we kept getting recognize for our success but the success was very little, i mean nothing to deserve claps from audience, give me a break. my boyfiend and i told our upline, mentor life coach rich dad yada yada yada we needed to rethink our game plan we havent been to a meeting or any of the other time consuming things... these people are good and have a heart, and are pretty good sells people, if it works for them they should do it.... maybe those who ran out of options, looking for a way out it helps people focus on a goal and what it is exactly you wanted to achieve the bottom line this business or no business you vision you will attract it i do not need this to get to where i want to go, i dont have time and dont want to tell a complete stranger upline my whole life story or answer to him or whatever ... just be careful out there world dont make yourself blind to the negative because sometime the negative is truth..... so its okay you read this do what you got to do to get by make a vision board change your thought process the universe doesnt know any different than to give us what we want... you just have to ask for it.... ask, believe, receive. Thank you wish you all a great day. Wish you luck. ENjOy LiFe! :) |
david nyc | 6:14pm on Thursday, July 24th, 2008 |
First of all you should hate your job does it allow you to live freely I think not. Why do I need to put out the energy drinks in the store when all I do is give them to my friends and they buy them and matter of fact actually like them. By the way it is residual income which I have received from them for the last 6 years and why I am going into sapphire qualifcation very soon. Yes it took me a while but ive got to the point where I said good riddens to my job and quite frankly they never really cared about me. The mindset is when you work in a job you are doomed to go nowhere maybe a bit comfortable but never can get rich if this is your destiny so be it. Some of us have big dreams which I expect to be dimaond in another 1-2 years hopefully and never listen to negative people which there are so many in this world and why 98% of the people in the world are so poor and why only 2% are rich. I am so glad I dont have to work in a job anymore and have the residual income. Yes its true if they stop buying but why would they stop while I give them IBO discounts makes no sense and do you think I worry if some drop out I have so many customers and IBO's it dont really matter anymore. I laugh when they say its a cult listen to their words it has meaning the only cult is in your job where you are a slave to the paycheck every week and living barely getting by paying the rent and being forced to get up on their time. I am so happy for Quixtar thank God there truly is a God oh yeah financial freedom and no negative person can stop me from going diamond. Somebody said this business is screwed up we have been around for 50 years and its funny how people knock businesses that are so successful. Oh by the way we have more millionaires now then microsoft not bad and a credit rating in which we owe no debt to no one can your job employer say that think not keep working until your what 70 now new study 405000 layoffs in a job funny how people still think working for a job or someone is good giving you the little measly raises they give you give me a break |
Joel Calgary | 12:50am on Thursday, July 24th, 2008 |
Quixtar is truly a wolf in sheep's clothing, I was referred to it a few years ago by a friend. As soon as I was shown the "plan" in an Arby's restaurant, I was STOKED!! But after attending a few "Cult like" meetings at strangers houses, I was a little skeptical. I harassed my friends and family to get them to join and nothing. It even got to the point were I was driving around with my sponsor and he tried to "recruit" grocery store employees into his trap. After sleeping on it for a few days, I contacted my sponsor, and asked him if I could set up a display and sell the energy drink called XS at a kiosk in the local mall, he said no, it's against company policy. That's what really got me thinking, why would they be so offended if I advertised there product if I paid for it? This company is all messed up, WOM only goes so far. And like the article says, you only make money if EVERYONE decides to buy everything from them, for life, so RESIDUAL income is a "false" word that they use in there business plan all to much, because if your entire down line decides to not buy a thing, then you make NOTHING. PLEASE approach this "opportunity" with an open mind, and don't let them give you the mindset to hate your job. |
bill maryland | 2:58pm on Sunday, July 20th, 2008 |
i only have so little to say and one of them is too each his own do what you enjoy in life dont listen to anyone especially a broke friend that barely pays the bills. I have met some interesting friends that would do anything for me even a person who i didnt sponsor who did my garage door for nothing thats the kind of people you have in this business its people helping people. I felt that who cares if my upline made more then me as long as i make it does it really matter i couldnt care less if the person who sponsored me made a million as long as i reach my goal.
I have been doing this for 8 years now and finally made it to emerald which brings me about 200k a year yes i worked hard yes it took so long but hey i made it and this is part time. I was able to quit my job realizing every day how miserable i was working for a boss and always worried that id get laid off. I am so happy that this business idea came to me 8 years ago and for people that didnt make it well ask yourself maybe it truly wasnt for you as for myself i didnt realize it would take this long but im here and only 32 not bad good luck in whatever you do in life |
jake nj | 4:43am on Saturday, July 19th, 2008 |
whatever keep working in your pyramid job and the broke friends you associate with its the drones that keep working in a corporate job with a risk of losing their job everyone will bash anything that does well people are afraid for what reason i have no clue the cost is so minimal its a joke i cant wait to go ruby and once again tell my friend how does it feel to work in a job paycheck to paycheck difference is i can retire at 45 which i am well on my way he maybe if he is real lucky 65 what a joke working for an employer not having your own business ill be waving to my friend everytime i see him.
I have a friend who is a police officer in ny he told me he hates his job being ordered to go to overtime details making no money whatsoever so i told him lets try to make this business work today instead of making 75k after 5 years at top pay he now makes residual income of 3k a month part time he still works in his job but thanks me everyday knowing full well in another 3 maybe 4 years he can walk away from his job which he hates so much
I dont tell anyone what to do its up to them to choose the path they want to pursue. I understand this is not for everyone but for the people who like this business and do well i can only say one thing i am on my way to financial freedom and no blog or negative person will stop me so continue your quest to stay broke
pensions are shrinking economy is going way down how long before your job goes down and sinks and then you join the unemployment line. I am so happy i dont ever have to work for anyone and i now have my own business which i am so proud of and thank God i didnt listen to my so called broke friend by the way is your broke friend really the person you want to listen to lol i think not but if you do i feel sorry for you
The business works i have done well so has many of the people i sponsored not everyone but a handful and all i neede now is 4 more legs and well i wont have to worry about anything |
Andrew Chicago | 1:23pm on Friday, July 18th, 2008 |
OK these Quixtar drones really need to stop bringing up the big name stores. Right now I can go and sign up for Home Depot and Barnes and Noble's affiliate programs and make money by reselling their products with out any uplines or motivational tapes. The ability to sell these products and "work" with these companies has no bearing on whether Quixtar is a good legitimate business opportunity. |
Ralph li | 12:11pm on Friday, July 18th, 2008 |
funny we have been around for 50 years and still going strong so to the people who actually think we are going down dream on mr broke the only thing going down is your job i wont be seeing you on the unemployment line getting an unemployment check each week or better yet living in the streets. Most people that bash something wish they can do well but their minds are closed in life thats why the rich get richer and the broke get more broke stay poor oh how is that 50k or 100k jobn working 40 hours a week lol i make in 16 hours what some make in 2 months its called the more you read the more you learn the smarter you get. I get paid to buy a book at barnes and noble do you i think not. I get paid to buy my 60 inch tv just recently i got paid for that would you lol answer is no i got paid to buy my sneakers did you oh gas prices on the roof by the way live free financial freedom all the way Quixtar/Alticor Rules my friend just went diamond so happy he did it and didnt listen to his broke friend what does a broke friend no absolutely nothing or else they would be so successful. This business ruless non believers keep working oh how many vacations do you get in your job 2-3 weeks maybe 4 i can take as many as i like i love that concept me and my wife have done so well and we both didnt listen to no one my upline its funny doesnt make more then me thats why it is a joke why they say its a pyramid the more ambitous you are wake up the more money you make guess its hard to understand with someone who is retarded or has a feable mind thats closed. Do you really think youll get anywhere in your job ? lol answer nowhere |
joshua ny | 12:00pm on Friday, July 18th, 2008 |
wake up people we work with microsoft, dell, circuit city, barnes and noble, office depot, nascar, if we were so bad and illegal would all these companies work with us. Its funny how people listen to their broke friends who actually think they know something like go get a job i guess youll be on the unemployment line right next to your other broke friend its hilarious. The business works if you follow the system ive been doing this for 9 months and i am going to be a platinum soon 5000 pin well on my way and funny thing is all i did was tell people to change the way they shop. We have awesome products i spent so little money and it all comes back at the end of the year what a concept. Its funny people have tired everything to stop us wonder why we are still here its simple you my opponents work in a pyramid who the hell is anyone to tell me its a pyramid wake up your job is a pyramid and i will explain how nonbelievers you are a worker your boss makes more then you the ceo makes more then you oh guess thats hard to understand stop the bashing of something you know nothing about keep living pay check to paycheck see where you go headed to nowhere thank God i dont work in a job anymore i can wake up when i feel like it dont need to be ordered to come and go as i please independent business owner rules residual income does your job give you a raise yes try what 2k a year lol i can pay my own benefits thanks to this business i dont have to wait till 72 to retire wake up in a job you get laid off i dont have to worry about those things
Oh by the way just because it dont work for you dont mean it dont work for others its called they are scared to spend very little money and thank God i didnt listen to my broke friend who at this time is on the unemployment line trying to pay his rent |
brien nyc | 4:25am on Thursday, July 17th, 2008 |
stephanie from maryland i couldnt agree with you more bravo finally someone with a brain quixtar rules ive done very well and its funny how people bash something because either they have been in it and havent done what they say or never been in this know nothing about it and bash it lol just because they are miserable in their job or can barely afford to pay the bills. Thanks to quixtar amway or whatever you want to call it i dont have to work in a job anymore like others who do and live a good life. I dont have to work for an employer and pray the company wont go out of business and be on the unemploymet line like so many others. As long as you work for an employer you will never get anywhere in life medicore at best is this what you want please. Most people are lazy that is why they dont succeed they never said this was a guarantee and besides the only people that lose so much money dont know what they are doing. I will be waving to the negatives when i go diamond in about 3 years remaining which im on pace to do and its funny my friend told me i was crazy its a scam dont do it well he still works on his job making ends meat and im on my way doing well making residual income of 5500 a month part time about 16 hours a week and work in real estate which is a job but i am not owned by the company thats the difference. When things look too good to be true everyone bashes it feable minds this company tells you to read well sadly most dont read in their life thats why they have medicore jobs knowledge is power some never picked up a book sad well good luck retiring at 72 the new retirement age oh wait will your job still be there thats the question good luck i know where im going straight to the top |
Stefanie Maryland | 11:42am on Tuesday, July 15th, 2008 |
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Posted at 10:51pm on Wednesday, May 28th, 2008
Also maybe you should take a look at the big box stores that have tied their name to quixtar. Here are just a few.
Disney, Dell, Circuit City, Esso, Home Hardware, Bass Pro Shops.
Dont speak unless you know what you are talking about.
Reading this post makes me very sad that you "just don't get it". The companies you mentioned DO NOT WORK WITH AMWAY. Anyone can purchase items from those companies. Amway (or if it makes you feel better "Quixtar") is just a distributor of the mentioned companies products. Some of the companies listed have even tried to sue Amway for making such statements. Also, don't feel every negative comment on here is from a person who knows nothing about "the business". I've lived it and most of those commenting have obviously done some homework on the subject. Making nasty comments, only makes YOU look ridiculous. There IS a way to obtain the "American Dream" full of flashy cars and exotic vacations . . . It is called hard work and either investing your money wisely or starting YOUR OWN company where YOU reap the FULL profits. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. |
Mercedes brooklyn,NY | 2:14pm on Monday, July 14th, 2008 |
quixtar.amway
a scam !
since Friday we have been thru meetings:
friday at 8pm
saturday at 8pm
sunday at 6:pm
from the moment my boyfriend told me about it i was like the Matrix never stops reinventing itself!
they are SCAMWAY -
please people do not go to these meetings, since when do you start a business and you are below the president of the company? is your money, your time and your family, and all those three would soon be gone if you dont wake up.
open your eyes |
craig nj | 6:27pm on Sunday, July 13th, 2008 |
its funny how people bash businesses they know nothing about. It seems most live in caves these days with their family. In this business when did anyone say its guaranteed hello never its an opportunity to make some money didnt say anything about getting rich last i recall. I have been in this business for 2 years ok i havent made alot only about 1500 a month which really is not that bad part time it pays my gas bill and additional bills as well so for me its something not alot yet but something. I cant bash a business that is making me some money and yes stats say otherwise but really im one who dont believe in stats im a firm believer if something is working dont brake it. I have met many friends in this business and besides i can retire from my job in time all that matters |
mike ny | 4:53am on Sunday, July 13th, 2008 |
well its funny how you listen to so many people in life and base your decision on a blog. This is not for the average person this business i have met so many friends that would do anything for me such as i had a flood in my basement and my friend who owns his own business was able to do this for me for nothing other then us being friends he is an ibo who is now going into ruby qualification. Its funny how people say this is a legal pyramid scheme wake up your job is a pyramid period because as long as you work for someone you wil get absolutely nowhere in life if you are comfortable with that then by all means go for it. I like the idea of one person in here who said something about primeamerica i think it was called at least thats not a job but a business. In life lets face it nothing is easy it takes time and work but going to a meeting for 5 dollars is like peanuts and i joined this business with so little money down i have been laughing to the bank ever since. I will be able to quit my job in a very short time thanks to alticor which is the parent company of our business. Its funny how people try to shoot down a business that is doing so well. We are not going down anytime soon for all you negative people we have been around for 50 years and have a 5a1 credit rating which means mr negative we owe no debt to anyone. I started this business spending 144 dollars and have made pretty good money in 2 years doing this. What business will give me part time and by the way i do this about 15-18 hours a week max a residual income of 4-6k a month which is now what i am about to receive. If this is some scam well i guess the money is not real as well must be counterfeit. In this business they didnt say you are guaranteed anything and besides i met some really awesome friends spent little money the cds its funny my friend gives them to me and sends them to my email i pay nothing for that and books well the same books i buy at barnes and noble which i have always done anyway i get paid for now to me its a win win situation. We dont need to advertise although we just started doing so and will be doing even more in 2010. I know one thing i get paid to drink the water i drink do you get paid to drink poland spring i dont think so. Negative people will always try to bring down a business probably because they are so miserable in their life working for an employer they try to kncok a business. I feel sorry for people that will work until they are 72 the new retirement age or think they can live on a pension which is shrinking every day oh by the way im not cruel and charge my customers retail value maybe other ibos in this business do but i give them the same price i pay for it i still get paid anyway not as much but some |
rizwan texas | 11:43pm on Thursday, July 10th, 2008 |
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Me & Me MD | 10:53pm on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008 |
You know what,
The picture they painted of the 'dream' is something everyone wants - goal and dream of life.
The people making it big in this Quixtar business are selfish, narrow-minded.
The contributions to charity is to save face - to have a mask for the world to see - that it's for good cause.
But look deeper.
People who works for quixtar talk about layoffs, working for corporate America on a daily basis - same schedule, and this is something that is great?
No.
It may be great for the quixtar IBOs, but not for the consumers, the customers.
People are already in great debt.
People hardly have any savings for retirement.
In fact, the retirement savings rate is at a NEGATIVE since the Great Depression according to Money Magazine.
By luring people in to buy retail products is putting people in further debt.
Thus, the IBOs are in this co. for themselves, not for others.
That's the overall picture as a consumer.
You want to live the dream? you want to accomplish your goals in life? You want to built your business WHILE helping people out of debt and save for retirements and benefit the community???
Look no further - join PRIMERICA.
We actually educate our clients and help them become debt free and financially independent.
We have their interests not their money.
If you think about it intelligently, even though we are agents, we're not selling the clients anything they don't need or want
We help people pay off their mortgage. We didn't sell them the mortgage - someone else did. We helped to accelerate their payment.
We help people save for retirement. We help to educate them about investing in mutual funds and how the bank takes advantage of people with their 3% rate of return and their massive passing out credit cards.
We help people get adequate life insurance for a reasonable, cheaper price than what they have already been paying. We educate the majority who have whole life insurance to get term insurance.
We are educators to help people. We earn our money through helping others. NOT PUTTING PEOPLE IN MORE DEBT.
We feel good about making a difference in people's lives - not just focusing on non-profit charitable organization but everyday people.
We have pleasure trips all expense paid by the company to recognize the difference we have made to our community.
Quixtar reps, it's time to turn your heels and join PRIMERICA a citi company. |
kim pa | 6:22pm on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008 |
k so my boyfriend and i attended a quixtar meeting yesterday after being what i would consider harassed at walmart.. my boyfriend thought it sounded legit bc the couple that stopped us said it was their business and they were just starting out and needed some positive assets to work part time.. first lie. they gave him a goody bag at their first meeting and convinced him it wasn't a pyramid.. second lie. maybe not an illegal one.. but it sure sounds like a pyramid to me. just by reading the reviews on here and having about oh, 5 or 6 different people come up to us and have the same conversation talking up the people that recruited us.. (almost seeming as if they were God.) i looked at my boyfriend of over two years and said it was time to go. he disagrees with me 100% but i absolutely do not trust this situation.. if you're not super social and okay with being turned down time and time again, this isn't the place for you.. besides that, you have to pay to get into these meetings and everything else.. which is probably where the majority of anyone else's profit comes from. someone talk to me here, maybe i have the wrong idea.. but for the love of god, don't get an attitude and try to act better than me.. i saw a lot of that below, im not looking to pick a fight with any egotistical jerks.. i just would love some answers from people that have been in my shoes, someone that isnt trying to make money off of me.. thanks. |
Craig N.C. | 1:21pm on Wednesday, July 9th, 2008 |
I was in Quixtar several years ago. The business is great if it is ran the way it is supposed to be. the Nutrilite vitamins are the best to me. I did not like the fact that the emeralds and diamonds were making most of their money by selling the books and tapes. When Quixtar was formed, it was a products business. In my opinion, the IBOA made it hard for the business owners to make the business work. I am in with another company now and am doing quite well. To everyone that says Quixtar is a scam, all you need to do is some research on the company. If you look strictly at the MLM concept, it is a perfect business model. You get paid for the effort you put forth. I work at a job where everyone gets a raise in April every year, regardless of the effort they put in. It is a so called cost of living raise. PLEASE!! As far as people saying it is a pyramid scheme, look at EVERY BUSINESS or ORGANIZATION in the world. They are pyramids. You will never make as much as your boss, regardless of how hard you work. Look at church, you have a pastor, associate pastor, deacons, then the congregation. If you work for the school system and you are a teacher, you will never make what the superintendent makes. In MLM, you can make as much or as little as you want. The key, as it is with everything you do in life, is to research the company you want to get involved with and make sure they have what you are looking for. Do more research than just what the company tells you or gives you. When you pick a major in college, marry your spouse, buy a car or house, you look in to it to make sure you are comfortable with the decision you are about to make. MLM and Quixtar is no different. You have to work at it to succeed. |
Jame Ohio | 5:47pm on Tuesday, July 8th, 2008 |
I have done a lot of research on this opportunity after attending a business meeting just last week. It's funny how everyone in this blog that supports this opportunity seems to say the same stuff, "I found myself" I'm working on getting free" you see this is all within your own mind. I cannot beleive the brainwashing that was taking place at this meeting. Look, Truth has nothing to fear from honest investigation. I am sure you can make money with this opportunity but the facts from the packet that I got from a "upline" or whatever they call them is that the average person does not. I'm sure all that defend will say I"m just being negative and whatever else your upline tells you to rebut with. You are preying on other people to buy products to support your dream. You don't give a shit about their success only your own. It's a LEGAL pyramid scheme. Why when you Google this opportunity you find so much negative stuff associated with it. In order for any deception to ever take place and to be believable there has to be a certain amount of truth to it. It makes me sick to they link Christian principles with this opportunity. "For the love of money is the root of all evil" that exactly what every single one of you that are involved in this opportunity is...blinded by your lust and love for money. I am sure you can make some money with this opportunity, but if it was such a sure fire thing why don't you see it advertised, spoke with in greater regard. ect....it's because you get deceived and once you are in and hear all the motivational speakers, tapes, rallys, stories, your mind takes a unrealistic view of the "the dream" And who says I'm not free. I work hard and you know what I'm proud of that. That's what is wrong with America, people willing to work and others willing to let them. Wake the fuck up and realize this opportunity 99% is nothing but a facade. |
bryan long island | 6:09pm on Sunday, July 6th, 2008 |
all i know is this has changed my life this business for the better especially with all the jobs going down the tube people losing their homes foreclosures thank God i dont have to worry about this since i became a ruby in my business. I am excited to have met so many new friends and people who are so successful and having the chance to go to these peoples homes who are doing so well. I will always thank my sponsor for the success i received through this. All i can say is that it worked for me and I know its hard to make a business work and really this is truly not for everyone especially if you are really not ambituous. I am proud to be on the stage each and every week having reached the ruby level on my way to diamond which nothing can stop me not even the negative people who truly dont believe so all i can say is i guess people would rather stay broke. I felt bad the other day when i saw my friend working as a sanitation worker never really getting to the full potential of making real money and just being comfortable so i guess the old saying to each his own good luck and God bless thank you alticor for making some of my dreams come true |
JAKE pa | 7:55pm on Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008 |
by the way you can retire by the age of 35 and its true because some did i this business its funny they try everything to knock this so called fraud business and by the way so called idiots we are still here i wonder why well by the way we have a 5a1 credit rating at dun and brad street does your job care about you i dont think so does your job guarantee youll still have one tomorrow nope the only idiots are the people that still work in jobs they will never have a prayer in getting rich i have retired because of this business and have residual income yes 2% made it i am one of them i will be a diamond shortly and its funny i remember people telling me how stupid i was to be in this business and i am so glad i didnt listen to losers and negative people in my life or id be working for an emplyer for the rest of my life and yes i do have a masters degree in business do you and if so great. Its funny how people say we are a cult lol and we have gargae water educate yourself morons no mercury in our water and no chlorine in our water keep drinking poland spring and great bear which have all these horrible things in it and are owned by the same people and by the way energy drinks red bull what a joke full of sugar carbs and calories we have 0 for all of these things and many people do have energy drinks. I am not saying join anything and i am not saying dont work in a job but to bash something that can work for the very few which i am proud to say i did i laugh because it did take me 6 years to get there but im almost there about maybe 9 months and then diamond which i will make quite a bit of money. I dont stay home in this business i just have customers buy some things and spend some money but not that much i love my checks every 15th oh by the way will you ever make more then your boss or better yet the ceo answer NEVER how many people are unemployed today is that a job the answer yes i dont have to wait on the unemployment line thank God i didnt listen to these idiots who told me i cant its called negative people kill the bugs where is my spray for these people who dont believe i guess my dream came true i wasnt sold anything and met so many friends that would do so much for me and i wouldnt trade this for any job good luck in your job i hope it gives you great wealth in your life |
jack new york city | 7:42pm on Wednesday, July 2nd, 2008 |
this program is awesome its funny how people say we are idiots. Did they say its a guarantee to make money or a get rich program and by the way who said anything about staying home. I have made money in this business go work in your job forever. Yes its true very few do well but quitters will always be quitters. Lol fraud group whatever its funny how people hide and dont show their true colors. Tell you what send me your email which of course you wont come face to face stop bashing something you know nothing about LOSERS AND IDIOTS by the way it takes one to know one keep working for your pathetic jobs in life getting nowhere FInancial freedom rules |
m k | 4:19pm on Tuesday, July 1st, 2008 |
Hi Everyone
This program really sucks.. If its really genuine business they should be open enough what they are going to do and what should i to earn money whatever they say..
I am new to California, coming from India for a business trip. When I tried to contact people from social community. One of the guy whom I met in net, said ur very ambitious and so on.. I will suggest you something which will make ur dream come true very soon..
K lets see I said. He took me for a meeting like Brainstorming session.. one gentleman started to address the session nicely.. He started with building sw BWW and talked abt Quixtar.. And said he can retire at the age of 35+ and earn million by just doing this business..
I didnt find any logic what he is talking about.. Interesting thing is I can see lot people from highly designated professionals from software side... Everyone talking about early retirement by joining this Quixstar business.. If they are right almost 70 percentage of population doesnt need to do full time job.... Then where does the money comes from... Hope everyone agress with me...
After some weeks one more guy called me, hey I will introduce to group of people who are business man.. They will help you to start businness as a part time.. I asked him is it Quixstar... No no He said.. but still i doubted him...
So whats there lets go and attend that meetin too.. After few minutes this another set of people with same presentation they started talking..
They way convince people is as if they are certain that you will earn thousands of dollar as soon as you join the team.. No way...
The beautiful part all the people whom I met till they end they have nt said anything how one is going to make money either its comission when u join new one or sell a product or something else...
I got only one answer.. First you join you will get to know everything...
This says everything what this business is rgt..
Let me tell u something... No one can earn money by simply sitting at home and talkin to peoples.. The peoples who works for company and go at office are fools...
Now its upto you r u want to be fool or good human being..
I want global community to ban this fraud group.. |
TJ Chicago | 2:01pm on Tuesday, July 1st, 2008 |
How many of these IBO's passed the 7th grade? This is some of the dumbest shit that I ever read. I'm sure when you don't even know how to structure a sentence you come off very intelligent to the people you are trying to sell to. Of course you probably just sell to other idiots like yourself. You people are annoying to everyone, especially to your friends and family that know this is garbage. If my friend who is an IBO tells me one more time that he is going to be retired next year and driving a Lambo I am going to blow his brains out. After he returned from one of these cult meetings he was a f'ing freak. Telling us how he has now found himself and is so enlightened, how all of us are stupid for working a regular job. You idiots all sound like robots, repeating everything these people have stuck in your head. I'm done, by the way if you are good at sales you can make much more than $2k a month with a regular sales job not some stupid energy drink and water scam. |
jake ny | 4:37pm on Monday, June 30th, 2008 |
i dont understand runing your marriage huh? the only people that dont make money dont do the work wake up if you go all the time and follow the system you will make some money thats a fact maybe not alot but some. Remember no more alarm clocks and financial freedom believe in the power by the way we have a 5a1 credit rating no debt this business na dnow have more millionaires then microsoft and yes we were investigated and we are still here because they are trying to find things that arent there for all the negative people that believe in cant work go back to your jobs no more clocks ever wake up when i feel like it awesome |
david nyc | 4:32pm on Monday, June 30th, 2008 |
well thank God Jon from Florida that you wrote things that are so true. Its funny how people say it breaks up relationships and they spend so much money whay money are you spending because if you are foolish enough to spend thousands of dollars then you deserve to be broke. Just remember the only pyramid in life is your job which you truly will never make what the higher person like a ceo make. How can you say this is a pyramid scheme when the people in my organization are doing better then me. People who dont make it in this business are quitters they give up and yes alot dont make it and the truth is I love this business it has made me some pretty good money and hey it didnt work for you well you can always do something else. This is not a get rich fast program which they didnt guarantee they said you have the opportunity to make some money they didnt hold a gun to your head and its funny they use the term here brainwashed listen you have a mind of your own if you dont like it get out abandon ship i do very well not rich from this but do well. At least i dont have to work for an employer all my life telling me what to do and besides is the job you have safe working for a company today the answer is no you can be laidoff at any time. I am not saying its great but to go broke and spend thousands of dollars lol on what buying a couple of cds and going to some 6 dollar meetings and maybe 1 meeting a year that was 180 dollars and now im broke what kinf of job do you have in life that with some books you buy which by the way they sell them in barnes and noble self improvement books which have helped me in my life and i get paid to buy them at barnes and noble through this business. Let me ask you does sports authority give you money back when you purchase something the answer no in this business you get a rebate check back. I have many customers that buy the basics and by the way know one is saying to buy energy drinks and vitamins lol this is not the only thing we have for your information. Do you get paid to drink poland spring which has mercury and chlorine in the water you drink try tasting perfect water and see how pure and oxygenized it is an compare the 2 if im wrong well thats your opinion and by the way deek park great bear and poland spring all owned by the same manufacturer hmmm. Its funny in life does everyone do well in sports, or is a great dancer not everyone is good at everything or is interested in everything so to the people who bash this business go back to your jobs and good luck you wouldnt be bashing it if you made money like me but when you somehow which i have no idea spend thousands of dollars a month what in the world are you buying is it everything only for you and you have no ibos or customers otherwise you must be spending like 1k only you are spending it and have no one else buying anything weird. I know one thing i feel sorry for people that have to go to work all the time because they have no choice really i do i used to until i went into real estate an do well in real estate as well as this business nothing comes easy in life but i truly believe if you want something bad enough nothing can stop you in life the problem is people dont believe in themselves and what they are capable of working for an employer is suicide unless you like having to just get by in life which to me really stinks but they are comfortable which is ok for them not for me. I met someone yesterday he is a police officer for nyc he told me he hated his job because he was ordered to do so much in his life and had no life what a shame this is for someone to say this and that the job makes no money well good luck |
Jon FL | 3:21pm on Friday, June 27th, 2008 |
Quixtar/Amway has had a huge positive effect on my life. I totally disagree with people who believe that the system wrecks relationships. Before the business I use to be prideful and arrogant and I didn't have a good relationship with my brother, but now because of the education (education = books & cds)through LTD, my brother and I actually work together and wow, we actually say "I love you" to each other and that's the way it ought to be with family. LTD is the education system which is provided through my upline and LTD is not a part of Quixtar/Amway. |
Kate Hell | 5:57pm on Thursday, June 26th, 2008 |
This "business opportunity" is ruining our family, marriage, relationships, and finances. It has changed my husband from being an easy going,good natured,family man & respected professional in the medical field-into an obnoxious, overbearing, embarrassing, cult-minded freak. He neglects our home, family, marriage, and his church in favor of staying out all hours of the night for "meetings", (to convert new victims) for "Team Builders" (meetings with the Brethren- or as I call it "Home Wreckers) and he gets a glassy eyed glazed over look everywhere we go as he zeros in on any new potential convert, be it a stranger or any blood relative. He has spent thousands of dollars on tapes, books, seminars, conferences and boatloads of products delivered to our home, most of which I do not like and would never purchase a second time from any store. He is excited to push their "magic water" anytime he has a captive audience to tip. With the education he has he should know better.
This is a scam that preys on what used to be hard working normal people who have been brainwashed into the belief that this is an opportunity of a lifetime. I don't recognize my husband. He acts as though this is his new family or religion. I miss my husband and want him back. |
Daniel AZ | 4:24am on Sunday, June 22nd, 2008 |
On the official Amway website, the company message is that you must sell a certain amount of products every month, which is how the whole business started and how it's supposed to be in order for the business to remain legit. This business would be ok if you do just that. Unfortunately, those who achieved the top levels a long time ago realized that they make a lot more money by selling the tapes, CDs, books and marketing materials to their downline. They have bypassed the actual legit products business and created a pyramid scheme out of the tools. Thus, their money comes ~90% from tools and the ~10% from products. They wouldn't be millionaires if that wasn't the case. Please read "Merchants of Deception" written by an Emerald. There is a lot of insider stuff in there that one would only find out once they achieved that level or higher. There are also testimonials online from former Diamonds. One will find out that most of them usually used the earned money to open a conventional business that doesn't have such a high turnover rate and truly allows them to leverage their time. Also, some were bought out of the business by the top money makers for wanting to straighten up the system. The money that the Double/Triple and Crown Ambassadors make is in majority (>90%) from their personal businesses they opened and connected to the Amway system. It is a deceitful business and very unchristian (for those concerned) as it gradually changes you to become more and more materialistic. What really got me very very upset was the fake Christianity portrayed in the books and on the stage. The health and wealth type of preaching doesn't have anything to do with the Bible. Furthermore, the Sunday services offered at the conventions are organized by a board composed of Diamonds and it's another money generating machine.
If you find an upline that actually teaches you how to market the products and sell them, and who is not involved in the tools business, then that's probably ok and you can make some extra money.
However, as you would do if you were to start any business out there, you should find out the figures. Your upline "should" be able to supply them to you. Some of the things you should be asking: How many people different Platinums in the upline currently have in order to sustain their level. How many people they lose in one month and how many they have to add to keep things going, what is their actual time and money involvement (driving included, the tools, the meetings, etc), how much your Platinum/Emerald/Diamond made during the last 2-3 years (minus expenses - the net income they got to keep). Ask to see an income tax statement. If you were to buy into any other business, you would want to know these things from the previous owner and there shouldn't be a problem. |
A. Anderson Mesa, AZ | 3:43pm on Thursday, June 19th, 2008 |
Interesting thoughts on Quixtar. Here is my take on MLM's in general or big business! If I start my own compnay and hire employees who sell my product to others through direct marketing or email or traditional methods most people do not consider them part of an MLM. In fact this model is similar to any MLM. I, the president get most of the money, anyone in my downline...employees get a cut for the work they do. In the Quixtar, you are not told that this is a get rich quick deal, you will have to work and there will be those who do not want your product. Yes, the products are priced higher....than Walmart brands! I would like to see an independent auditor sample all Quixtar products and compare to similar retail products before we have more informatal comparisons.
The CD's meetings, tapes....hip hip horah is what any good team will do to help promote and encourage its members. Go to church, a rock concert, a football game, or even a spelling bee and you will see people showing support and encouragement for their friends and family. If you don't see the value in Quixtar just don't use their products but the initial assesment was very lame and incomplete. |
Stefanie Maryland | 3:21am on Thursday, June 19th, 2008 |
I have been trying to contact former Amway/Quixtar IBO to help my Mom see the truth of "the business". We are trying to de-program her from the lies she has been fed from all the so-called motivational tapes and the hundreds of voicemails and emails she receives every day from her upline. We need to get her on an honest and true path of "Freedom" from the chains of Amway.
I am a child of an Amway/Quixtar IBO. I am NOT involved in "the business". My Mom and Dad are so much in debt from this whole business. That they even took out a second mortgage to support their "Family Reunion", "Spring Conference", and other conventions. I've been to these conventions with them when I was younger. So, I know first-hand what goes on in there. It was very scary to be in that huge auditorium full of people chanting and repeating everything the people on stage were saying. I felt like I was at a revival. But, instead of worshipping God, they worshiped money. The masses were being brainwashed. It was very apparent to me at a young age. I also found it to be VERY similar to Scientology. If you say anything negative about Amway (it will ALWAYS be Amway to me)you are not their friend or looking out for their best interest. I was embarrassed to go places with my parents because they were always looking for contacts. It was all very fake. Be nice to someone to be nice, not because you want to con them into making you a $1 a month. All of my family has talked behind my parents back regarding their involvement with Amway. However, my parents are grown adults and at some point you honestly have to let them make their own mistakes (I sound like the parent here.). Well things have changed. My Dad has passed and my Mom is now on a fixed income. The people in the business did not let her out of their site through the whole funeral process. There was always someone at the house. They even screened her calls. It was all very weird. I think they thought we would all talk her out of the business. Well, she honestly cannot afford to be in the business and they don't care. If they were true friends, they would see she can't afford or need a case of paper towels. When my Dad passed I found cases and cases of energy drinks in the garage and don't get me started on my parents medicine cabinet. It was full with HUNDREDS of bottles of vitamins. I had a huge pit in the bottom of my stomach seeing all this. There is something honestly wrong with all of this. I knew it when I was 18 and I know it now (in my 30's). My parents had NO ONE under them when my Dad passed. They flushed and flushed more money into this business. They didn't go on vacations like normal couples, they didn't rationalize overpaying to get "PV" didn't actually make them money. My Dad was a very intelligent man. I think at some point, he knew they would NEVER make the money Amway flaunts in the videos during the conventions. But, he was too proud to admit he had been dooped and went along with the sham to "try and get my Mom home". I am very bitter at the people that first invited them to a Wednesday Open meeting. If they hadn't, my parents would've had a more fruitful life and my Dad may still be alive today. Shame on you people that posted on here who try and justify the practices of a company that HAS been proven to be fraudulent. The only people making the "real money" are in the Amway offices in Ada, Michigan and that will NEVER change. That is just how the company works.
Turning a blind eye and feeling too proud to admit you were scammed, could put you in the poor house, cause you a loss of family and true friends, or ultimately stress you out until . . . |
L Lithuania | 7:23am on Wednesday, June 18th, 2008 |
try search youtube.com for Scam=Quixtar=Amway=Alticor |
Juan Toronto | 4:14am on Sunday, June 15th, 2008 |
Hey bryan, you are so brainwashed...it's not even funny. Just read what you just wrote. You call us "losers" for keeping a steady and reliable income to provide for our families. I've had a brief stint with quixtar and i got out before i committed anything. My sister joined a couple years later despite my warnings and it damn near ruined her life. Quixtar told her and her boyfriend that they would be more successful in this "business" if they were married...because apparently people respond better to married couples. Long story short, she is now separated and involved in a messy legal battle. You think she needed vitamins and energy drinks that badly??
See that's a scam right there...you don't NEED vitamins if you keep a healthy diet. You don't NEED purified water...you pay taxes that keep your tap water clean. You don't NEED energy drinks if you get a good night's sleep. They tell you to buy these products and encourage people to buy them because it's things that they NEED...but you don't need them...that's more brainwashing.
You make a profit out of this "business"...that puts you in a very small percentage. And you are being influenced by an even smaller percentage. The percentage that flashes dollar signs in your face and say that "you can make it too". Just remember that your money and their money comes from the LARGE percentage of people that don't see jack from this "business". People that waste their time and money because people like you promise them a "better life" by buying vitamins.
I don't have any "double diamond" friends...but we have a great time having a beer and watching the game.
Call me a loser in front of my wife and kid...I'm sure they'll disagree. |
Erick Florida | 7:31pm on Wednesday, June 11th, 2008 |
If it's not a scam then why is Quixtar being investigated by the Federal Trade Commission and why was there a expose on Dateline....
Quixtar members are basically snake oil salesmen |
bryan nj | 10:23am on Tuesday, June 10th, 2008 |
hey bob the only pyramid scheme is in your head try your working class job in corporate america lol you want to talk about pyramid scheme get your facts straight buddy. How is lol a pyramid scheme when i am an ibo going to be a ruby real soon thank you very much and lets see 9 of the people i sponsored make alot more then me so if you really understood anything about this you would get your facts straight. The only pyramid is your job working 9-5 every day going nowhere in life laying around a tv which of course is for losers gets you know where in life. Its like watching pro athletes do you really think they care if you root for them lol please they make so much money and its the suckers that go to the game and waste their time why they are rolling in the big bucks. People who are negative in life which is quite alot in this day and age go nowhere ever probably 98% of the population while 2% succeed. I look at it like this its funny how one person said they lost so much in 6 years how can you lol lose so much money unless you were foolish enough to spend so much. I spend on an average about 250-300 a month on all the things i need anyway from cheerios, paper towels, dishwashing liquid, energy drinks, and the best water in the world.
Maybe if people were educated which most arent they would know that the water they drink which is polland spring, deer park and great bear are owned by the same person and by the way i guess people must love the taste of chlorine and mercury its called poison. How water is purified, remineralized, ionized, microstructured and oxygen rich no water can beat it. Check out the presentation sometime.
Its funny how so many people say they lose money well for 1 thing i go to 2 meetings a month at the very least have hundreds of customers by so little cds its a joke and make over 4k a month im not rich in this business but at least i dont work in a job other then real estate which by the way is not residual income. Is your job residual income do they care about you when you retire oh i forgot you get your pension check which is shrinking day by day you honestly think you can live off that lol its a joke. The new retirement age for your information is 72. Unlike others that want to work till they are 72 because they cant afford to retire this business for me anyway in say another 3-5 years will mame me a guarantee 250-500k for the rest of my life ill be 36. I will say it dont work for everyone i agree but for some like myself it does work. Its all about the right people to work with because if you have the right chemistry with certain ibos you can do wonders in this business.
Its funny people do research for what it costs 144 dollars not thousands of dollars unless your stupid enough to buy tons of products and cds. I have never lost money ever in this business and will continue to profit.
Oh by the way does walmart or ebay compensate you on anything do they care about you the answer nope
Whatever you do in life good luck working from paycheck to paycheck I for one will be waving to people that go to their jobs and this scorching heat just like my double diamond friend who makes a good amount of money.
The people that made it which i agree is not many tell them why they cant succeed. The people that use words like can't try and will go nowhere in this life.
I have never seen so many negative people in this world. Anyway good luck and God bless |
Bob PA | 4:55pm on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 |
If one reads the comments made by Quixtar supporters, he or she will find that they are riddled with typos and poor grammar. This is just another sign of the type of people who fall into this awful Pyramid Scheme. |
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