Quixtar Reviews

Ly   Montvale, NJ

8:22am on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 

I have been an IBO for many years - I am not against this business because nothing is really forced out of you. You do as you please and when you don't want to do this any more, you just don't register for it again. Simple as that. You can bring people in, or just buy the products. After a couple of years, I gave up trying to bring people in but I still have the membership several years later for the simple reason that the products are good quality. Lately, I haven't reached the level that would cause me to receive a check but who cares? Walmart, Shoprite, and all the other big stores I go to never sent me a check either and I spend a lot more in those stores. But it is nice to know that if I do shop a lot in Quixtar, I will be receiving a "thank you" check :)

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:51pm on Wednesday, May 28th, 2008

Get your facts straight. In this day and age all my business with quixtar is done via computer. IF you want to know about the business you can see the plan from the comfort of your own computer.

Also, Barry. I have owned three different companies in my life. I am 37 years old and challenge you to find any other business that you can run for 400.00 a month and get products in return. Products you use everyday. I personally have friends who spend 500.00 a month to run their part time business and in return are receiving over 5000.00 per month in profit and commisions.

ALso maybe you should take a look at the big box stores that have tied their name to quixtar. Here are just a few.
Disney, Dell, Circuit City, Esso, Home Hardware, Bass Pro Shops.

Dont speak unless you know what you are talking about.

Andrew   GA

9:26am on Tuesday, May 27th, 2008 

As a quixtar IBO and a soldier I have found it a wonderful way to supplement my income and provide for me and my family. The army does a good job put they don't pay all that well. With Quixtar I have been able to bring in over $400 a month with no down line making purchases for themselves. I do order some products for myself from my self and all but my customers make the bulk of my money. THIS is only a scam if you are not willing to do a little work and expect to make a lot for nothing

john   ny

8:30am on Saturday, May 24th, 2008 

this business is so awesome if you believe you will achieve thank God i didnt listen to this jerk who said this cant work total moron i have made almost 2k a month i still work but thank God i have this extra money especially with the rising cost of gas and not waiting on lines anymore. I am not even a platinum yet but only been in this business 8 months probably take me another year but hey it didnt really cost that much and what business doesnt cost money

Marcus   Michigan

10:22am on Tuesday, May 20th, 2008 

I was invovled in this "Business" for over a two years reaching the Platinum Level. Apon personal experiences and research I would define Quixtar as a cult. They use your hopes and dreams against you and prey on your fears. This business may have produced many millionares, but you must consider how many IBO have entered the field. Research the numbers and you will come the conclusion Quixtar/Amway is the most inefficient "successful" large business of of all time. With a 99% of IBO losing money. I apologize to those I involved, and can only hope of for those who continue in this "business." Here is two stat I leave you with 85% margin in tools and about 30% margin on products from the website. Also 95% of profit gained by Quixtar/Amway are produced from the pockets of harded working IBO's pockets 5% from fproducts purchases on the online database. I would greatly recommend doing research before you join this "business".

Jenny   OK

1:15pm on Friday, May 16th, 2008 

I dated a guy who was into the Quixtar scam. Had been for 6 years and he's in a pile of debt. I went to one of the "conventions" with him. Spending 14 hours a day in an arena listening to this crap was enough to drive me crazy. It truly felt like I had entered a cult. They would say, "Do you want to be FREE"?? [Insert crazy screaming and clapping]. And then on Sunday their "church service" consisted of how Jesus wants us to succeed with this business. What a waste of 2 days of my life that I will never get back.

bryan   nyc

7:00pm on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

Its funny how someone can say this business is a pyramid but what they dont realize is their job in corportae america is a pyramid lol. It is also funny how people say that the only one who will always make money is the person on the top and the guy you sponsored cant make more knows nothing about this business. For your information i am a platinum finally it did take almost 3 years but i did it which i now have par titme residual income of about for me almost 3k. You are not forced to do anything in this business. I go to maybe one meeting a week and buy like maybe 3 cds a month which costs me nothing. I buy a couple of things maybe spend 100-150 a month which is a joke. I will tell you i have sponsored a handful of people and i will tell you first hand they are well 4 people that i sponsored are doing alot better then me by means of they are well 2 of my people are emeralds one ruby and one like me the rest yes i am making more but like i said people do amek more then you who you sponsor so for the person who said this is a pyramid you need to do your research. I hardly do anything now and pretty much it runs itself for me. You dont have to buy everything they didnt put no gun to your head please stop with all the negativity from your broke friends. Yes i do work a full time job and yes this works for me i havent quit my job and i am still here. Give things a chance in life i will tell you it is hard but you can do it not everyone will succeed alot actually but some like myself are on their way. Do what is good for you but if its not for you well do something you wnjoy i do enjoy this business good luck

Josh   Omaha

2:40am on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

I don't get what is so unethical about Quixtar...I have been an IBO for about a month now and I will be receiving my first check in a week. I love the opportunity that Quixtar gives me. I have sponsored one IBO and have 3 customers that like the products and are going to continue to buy from my online retail site. I am a college student/athlete and I use Quixtar as a past-time. I hope to eventually make some serious money, that is just a goal of mine. All of you anti-Quixtar people are coming up with numbers and figures that are not true...basically, don't bash people for enjoying their Quixtar opportunity.

Anonymous   Location unknown

2:32am on Friday, May 9th, 2008 

Well quixtar at first seems awesome but I am in big trouble right now. I joined and it cost me 165 dollars, thats what they said but than the charges just kept piling in. First I had to join their online qi thing which was 30 bucks next they tell me to buy 100 points worth of stuff ($300)just to make $13.50 and sell 50 points worth of stuff ($100). Well I come from a poor family and there is no way that I can ever buy 100 points worth of stuff stuff to make a few bucks. Then I talked to them asking can I sell things here, or there, on the internet and all every time the answer is no no no no no no no no no no no you can't. Well where can I sell this stuff...they say through people to people. Well, the thing is I'm trying so hard talking to everyone degrading myself asking random people talking to everyone I know and guess what nothing. The answer everyone gives me is that stuff is too expensive.Or when they do buy they only buy once or twice and that only generates me like 20 pv maybe 40 at most. Than I still have to buy my points worth, with a income of like $7 an hour how do I buy 100 points worth of stuff. (Don't tell me its expensive because of quality, lol, I found items equivalent to their quality at 30 times cheaper. Also I found some items they ar selling for 50 bucks cheaper. Also don't say well your not getting paid to buy from others. Well, they aren't paying me if I don't make 150 pv. Which is $300. So which would I rather do save 50 bucks or spend $300 to make a few bucks. Its obvious)

This is a pyramid for sure. Let me explain.

there is the top guy who tells his downline to buy 100 pv. That downline buys 100 pv well the top guy already made 100 pv doing nothing. Lets say the top guy buys 100 pv to. Now he has 200 pv while the downline doesn't even make enough pv to get a $20 check. Next the downline sponsors a person. The first downline buys 100 pv the second downline buys 100 pv, the top guy buys 100 pv. Now the top guy has 300 pv, the second downline has 200 pv, and the third guy has nothing. Eventually you end up with some people who hits a wall where they can't get anyone to join and they can't afford to buy stuff. Guess what that new guy is screwed. Then there are people who say my downline makes more than me, well guess what that downline is now the top and everyone else is screwed, but remember that downline is still nothing compared to the top guy. The top guy will always make more than everyone else. Once a person sits on the pinicle of the pyramid lol, no one can beat him. He doesn't have to do anything anymore. Yes quixtar worked 10 years ago but now in this day and age it doesn't work at all. In my meetings whenever the speaker asks who has made a profit only like one person raises their hand, and thats because that one person forgot to count the money they lost. In my opinion great business opportunity if you have $10,000 to begin with. Close to a scam if you have nothing to start with.

Joe   Texas

6:05pm on Thursday, May 8th, 2008 

Quixtar itself is a legal business. The scam part is your awesome upline advising you to buy all those tapes and attend all the meetings. What many IBO's don't know is that some of the diamonds make most of their money from those tapes and seminars and not from quixtar.

Most IBO's trust their uplines so they don't ask tough questions about the tools scam. Nobody has ever talked about seeing a payment plan for tools. It's the dirty part of the business.

Noah   AZ

3:08pm on Tuesday, May 6th, 2008 

ummmmm...to all these people that say Quixtar is a scam and that they just try to take your money and that they want you to ONLY buy their products...you're wrong. I became an IBO a few weeks ago and i didn't come in thinking that I was going to become a multi-millionaire. I came in because it is a way to make a secondary income flow. My dad was hurt on the job a few years before he was supposed to retire but the injury forced him to retire early. If it wasn't for the secondary income flow he built while being an IBO and fireman, my dad and/or mom would have been forced to work in a job that they had no intention doing to make ends meet. Instead, they are both happily retired and ENJOYING retirement. and as for products that we supposedly MUST buy...what the hell!?!? My upline is very clear to buy things that you LIKE from the business and to buy from other stores if you like those products instead...thats why you make money by also selling products (and not only Vitamins and XS drinks...there are tons of things you can market)instead on just what is "bought" by you. Oh and Mr. Albright, there is a way to set up a website to advertise your business...it cost $20 a month...and as for the "CD's and books and meetings" that you MUST go to...thats all bogus. Yes, it is RECOMMENDED that you do buy the CD's and books and go to meetings because these help you grow as a person, but by no means are you FORCED TO. and honestly, you literally spend about $1,000 a year on that stuff (how many of you spent close or near to that by attending ONE motivational event or workshop in a field that entices you in the past year?) alot of what I am hearing negative about Quixtar from people is not anything about Quixtar...its all about the IBO who pestered you or told you that you must buy this and that...unforunately, Quixtar can not control how people decide to build their "business" and unfortunately people join Quixtar and do not follow what is taught by the Corporation...so before any more bashing goes on, why don't you take the time and actually investigate Quixtar besides takes some bits of info from here and there and throwing it all together to portray one ugly picture..oh, i have made $0 in this business so far (that will change with time) and I shop at WalMart all the time...and still reach my weekly goals for my business...and i have never heard one person in Quixtar ever put down WalMart...in fact, they are used as an example in Quixtar when explaining "distribution"

bryan   manhattan

6:51pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 

well marie from ca i totally agree with you for 1 thing i met some nice friends in here some of which are truly great people even if things didnt go well. I have been in this business for 1 year and i just reached the platinum level its about $2,800 a month i do however still work but not for long. I know the stats say otherwise but i am a true believer that i can beat the facts and be one of the people who go diamond.

I dont criticize people who dont join but for every 10 people for me 4 join so far at least statistically wise anyway. I do work a day job for a computer company but not happy their because i have to work 9-5 and tired of this that is why i am focusing on this business. I can see the residual which is happening already and really not everyone will be successful probably most but it doesnt mean i cant be one who succeeds

It has cost me hardly anything think about it what is gas going to be this summer like 5 dollars a gallon to go shopping in the store. I have done some research and i buy only the things that are the same as the store or a bit cheaper and have found many. I am one who loves the x/s energy drink for me anyway it tastes pretty good and lol i get paid for it which is even better

I have another business like this but doesnt do as well as this business. Somebody said to me you have to spend all this money i am like what money lets see i go to 3 meetings a month which is 15 dollars total, I buy like 5 cds a month thats another 25 dollars total, and 2 books which is another 25 dollars ok so thats what 65 dollars total. It costs me 144 dollars to get started so for me i have done ok since i started.

I mean lol i didnt make millions but i am able to lease a mercedes benz not bad because of this business and its residual. You have to understand people will always criticize any business thats life. I am not looking to make millions but will be happy to just go diamond which is about 400-600k and if i dont make it well if i cant get close or even where i am at its ok because its money i never had in the first place before i started this business

I have met many who didnt succeed but met a few who have so far. I have over 45 people now i sponsored and about 9 are really making it happen for me the rest well they are just there but havent really done much but its ok i just say NEXT and move on to the next person period.

david   ny

6:39pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008

oh by the way for people who think this is a pyramid well they know nothing because my downline makes alot more then me for starters and did you ever check out your employment paycheck job ITS CALLED A PYRAMID you will never make what the ceo makes so for all you people who think this is a pyramid get your facts straight. So tired of people who listen to their broke friends funny how people listen to people who are unsuccessful in life pity them. I have still not quit my day job but hey i make an additional $1,700 a month not that bad for a guy in the business for 8 months. Anyway good luck to anyone in the business and for those who are not i wish you the best in your job and life

john   nyc

4:50pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 

fianlly some one with a brain alot of negative people in the world dont see these things oh well not here to convince i know i am doing ok with this business really all that matters not rich but comfortable hey anyone here there are no more jobs these days called a recession not hiring paycheck jobs these days oh well have fun

Marie   Ca.

4:20pm on Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008 

I have been an IBO for almost five years and I think Quixtar is a great opportunity. I never signed on with this company to get rich. I think one must read between the lines, as with all "business opportunities" and take only the best attributes that work for them. I have never been required to "sell" anything.......and I wouldn't, it's not for me. I have only purchased a couple books, and attend meetings only when I can or want to. My upline and friends I have made have been supportive and helpful and I enjoy seeing them when I want to.

I have two questions for everyone out there:

1. How many times have you "checked-out" from a store and received your receipt and a $5.00 bill and a BIG THANK YOU FOR SHOPPING WITH US! (Would you continue to shop there in the future if you did?)

2. If you calculated all the money, time spent, gas and let's face it, hassle, of your daily, weekly, monthly and bulk shopping, including clothes, shoes, sports equipment for the kids, gifts, you name it.....had everything delivered to your home and received a check the following month for only the money you spent? (Would that be worth the $50.00 annual fee to be an IBO?)

Of course, my goal, as with everybody, is to make more and retire! But I have been very realistic with my business. ( I haven't quit my day job yet.) All I know is I get to shop from home and get a check the following month for the things I purchased. (That's pretty good if you ask me)

Opportunity   Anywhere, USA

11:39pm on Tuesday, April 22nd, 2008

Wow I cant believe that some people have figured out that Quixtar is a scam. I mean you have so many credible facts to back it up. Please dont tell the thousand or so stores that are linked up with Quixtar (Circuit City, Barnes and Nobles, Dicks Sporting Goods, Disney, Dell, etc.) To bad those stores dont have you on their staff because im sure they didnt do as much research as you did before they linked up with Quixtar. This global company is in 80 plus countries, millions of IBO's, Billions of dollars in sales but apparently some people have figured out its a scam im sure the company is really worried about this new info getting out. I also cant believe some "IBO's" try to contact people to give them free financial advice. I mean how annoying I hate when people try to help me. If Quixtar is a scam I hope I get scammed more often.

Mary   VA

12:01am on Monday, April 21st, 2008 

I have been an IBO for about 7 weeks. Will Quixtar make me rich? Probably not. I have spent more than I can afford. But I am told this is how you make money. I am still waiting for my first "bonus check". I have not made any profit that I know of. Am I crazy? Is Quixtar worth it? I am beginning to wonder. But, I do love their products, cleaner clothes, cleaner bathroom, cleaner kitchen, their products do brighten things up. But, I think you must be well off to afford their products. Products for the rich and famous. Know any famous people who use their products?

john   ny

7:06pm on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 

whatever so many losers in this world whatever you say lol so many negative people in the world thats why 80% are broke in this world wow there is a loser born every minute

Cal   Surrey

4:15pm on Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM....

Jarrett   Jax FL

8:09am on Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 

ok, first off. how do you lose money in quixstar? you dont. you get paid to do your shopping online and have the items delivered the next day to your house. basically. you get paid to shop.

how is that losing money?

david   nyc

6:11pm on Monday, April 14th, 2008 

well i have read all your postings and i dont know about anyone else but i just went platinum i mean hey it took me almost 2 years but it is residual since i do get a check for around 3k every 15th of the month. I will say it wasnt easy but i didnt have to put up alot of money because for me well i copied alot of cds from my upline and went to some meetings which cost me around 5 dollars each time minus gas although i live 10 minutes from one of the hotels. I do like the products very much but for me i had an open mind and went with my gut and actually enjoy my success in this business. I am a very positive guy and had i listened to others i wouldnt have made this level. I will work toward a diamond level and if it takes me another 5-10 years so what i am only 32 then i can retire by what 42 or so. I do have a job in my life working as a computer technician and havent left my job but enjoy every minute of my success now. I have sponsored over 45 people so far in almost 2 years and to be honest only 8 have gone either platinum or ruby and 1 is an emerald. Like every business it takes alot of time but for me the work i put into it was easy because i wasnt there to convince anyone of anything.

I will say it dont work for alot of people but for some of us it did and i am grateful that i became a member and the funny thing is the guy who sponsored me well i make more then him so the pyramid thing lol is not true in this case for this business.

In a job you work in a pyramid i know that in a job you cant really retire not in the way our country is today. I dont like to be bossed around by my employer and quite frankly yes you do get a paycheck but it can be gone in an instant which is called layoffs etccc.

I love people that criticize things because some people are so close minded its really pathetic. I will be straight i didnt get rich off this business which i said earlier but ive have done pretty good up to today and continue to strive to the next level which is a ruby and again not going to say its going to be easy but i am going to do it.

People that are negative in life makes me sick really thats why everyone around me act like winners they are positive unlike some people who stay with their friends who are broke and tell them hey there is no chance of succeeding in this business really give me a break.

Really think about it the cost of this business is as follows ok because this is what i spend on an average each month.

First of all it was 144 dollars to start and i received about 80 dollars worth of items i use and enjoy in my household. I buy some cds but mostly copy them that was about what 20 dollars a month lets see i have my website thats another 20 dollars a month with my free business cards ok. I go to about 3 meetings a month another what 20 dollars. So let me see thats about what 60 dollars a month then i buy the things i enjoy in my household around 300-400 dollars so thats what 460 give or take well i make now about 3k roughly so im ahead about 2,500 lets say each month i dont know about you but thats ok for me and really it is part time i do this about 16-20 hours a week and set up about 12-16 meetings per week showing the plan. I forgot i also have registered for communicate which is a great tool another 38 dollars a month thats it where are all these other numbers coming from at least thats why i spend.

I am not here to tell everyone it works all i am saying is really iy dont work for alot of people i just did ok and im grateful.

tony   brandon, fl

1:47pm on Monday, April 14th, 2008 

A coworker showed me the Quixtar catalog for the XS energy drinks and some other stuff he has. I happen to be a distributer for 4Life Research. We have a product called Transfer Factor Plus which has been proven to increase your immune system NK cells by 437%. It is patented until 2023 with 44 patents pending. It is something remarkable. Magic Johnson takes a product called IP6 which is an immune system booster. It costs thousands for an injection. It only raises your immune system by 49% compared too TF Plus which is 437%.

We now have a drink named Riovida. It has MonaVie's favorite acai berry, pomegranites, blueberries, elderberries, and grapes in it along with lactoferrin (a natural antibiotic), and the immunity power of Transfer Factor.

Of course, we are not related to MonaVie or Quixtar or Noni Juice, but none of these companies have a single product that compares to Riovida or Transfer Factor Plus.

So I say "Join now, before your MLM company goes bye bye."

Denise   Midwest

10:27pm on Saturday, April 12th, 2008 

I've been shown the plan by zealous family members. I know that it wouldn't work for me because I just couldn't justify the cost for all the stuff. If Iwasn't willing to buy it, how could I honestly try to persuade others to buy it. (And yes, I have tried many of the products.)

Recently Met an IBO--"Emerald"   NOYB (None of your business) OK. Bklyn,

8:25pm on Saturday, April 12th, 2008 

After reading much of the actual website and what people had to say, I am torn between my headstrong mind and fear or doubt. More people had bad things to say than good. That doesn't surprise me for a couple of reasons.

One reason is many people are already brainwashed when it comes to getting a job (well this is not a job--think of yourself as an actual business). Most people don’t really want a job. They want income. As an American society we were taught to go to college and get a "good job". Don’t you see that while going to college might be a good thing doesn't always yield a "good job" -- one where you can have 'real' peace of mind? There are handfuls of really rich people vs. the working poor. And no, they don’t want you to make more money than them, because if you did you would stop working for them and work for yourself.

So I have always been open-minded about that. I suppose most skeptics reading this now are thinking "You are the perfect candidate or 'sucker' for this BIZ.”

I have oftener wondered while on interviews, how much money does this job really generate--i.e. and just what would be the percentage offered to me? If most people would do research and know exactly how much their actual jobs are generating minus how much it costs the company to have you with them, perhaps most would demand much more money than what the company decides to offer.

That being said, pyramid schemes have a bad rap, and so they should. However, I am not so convinced that this is a direct pyramid scheme. I will find out more about IBO's buying the products. I guess the CEO of McDonalds must enjoy every single product the company makes in order to endorse it. That makes sense.

omi07   tx

11:30pm on Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 

hahah, all i can do i laugh at these quixtar people...i love that last comment of yours joe from texas...thats so right...these two fools that were so crazy after getting me and my parents into it kept on bashing having a job or getting a job, and kept on telling us if you get into quixtar you wont need a job. But the truth was this scam of a company gets a portion of its earnings from the lame "motivational cd's and books" they first told us this business requires NO INVESTMENT FROM YOU...NO MONEY INVOLVED. I researched and asked them what it ivolves in the long run and then they were like yeh you have to buy these things very often and go to those cult like gatherings in hotels and meetings. Heck, its so simple...to buy and spend on all this trash you HAVE to have some kind of income...and so did this fool who came up to us...he still hasnt left his job! hahah talk about being a hypocrite.

Joe   Texas

7:27pm on Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 

Nobody said quixtar doesn't work. Quixtar is profitable for the owners of quixtar and a handful of old time IBOs who make a fortune selling tapes and seminars. Nearly all of the rest of you IBO's are losing your shirts paying for meetings and driving around looking for suckers to sign up.

Yes, a job or company may have a pyramid organizational chart, but at the end of the month, all of the employees got paid and have a net gain. In quixtar, most IBO's are spending money on overpriced junk and a few uplines rake in the cash.

I bet many of you here posting all the fluffy stuff about quixtar are actually losing money but pretending to be successful because your upline taught you to fake it. It's ok, you can admit it, the facts are there. No need to lie. Most of us here see right through you anyway.

Ironically, many of you who bash jobs have one - to suppport your quixtar addiction.

joel   ca

1:37pm on Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 

Rock on brian,li. Mr. Negative (Brian, Phoenix), just hasn't gotten it. Up to him if he will. Quixtar/Amway is the most honest and fair business opportunities out there. It is is self dependent on the indivual, depending on their goals and commitment to themselves. Love the training, association with positive people, and the personal growth that we shall undertake if we are to be successful in anything we do. Rock on Quixtar/Amway IBOS. -Velocity Enterprises, CEO-

bdoug   nj

5:22pm on Monday, April 7th, 2008 

you guys make me laugh you know absolutely nothing about this business ive made some good money and by the way dude it is residual. The problem is most people listen to their broke friends and that is why they stay broke. I know i am doing just fine and it does just nicely for me and my buddy who i just signed up. The onlt pyramid is in peoples brains if it were a pyramid id be making more then about 4 people i sponsored which by the way they make more then me and are in emerald qualification. The only pyramid in life is your job my friend take a look at your job working for an employer get real get laidodd its called a recession our business a recession dont affect me one bit but to the worker at a job it does big time. Its funny how people who come in here think they know it all because ever think maybe it just didnt work for them because they were lazy think about it 80% of the people in the world are average. I know i am doing quite well and really to me thats all that matters and the people i signed up are doing quite well good luck though in your job lol

omi07   tx

7:00am on Saturday, April 5th, 2008 

this couple approached my parents once, and they seduced my parents this pyramid scheme...they made them believe how good of an opportunity this is to make a residual income...how they won't have to work till their older and they can relax and have a steady income. These people said please come to this meeting and see for yourself...then this fool called me up an tried convincing me. I'm like lets go see what the heck this really is. I go to the meeting, and i swear i felt like i was in a cult gathering...i wanted to get up and leave right away...their products are right around the same price if not more expensive than the competitor...not to mention you have to buy them online only. My parents were required to pay a deposit, and they did because i didnt know of what was going on....so when i did find out, i did my research and found out how much of a scam this crap really is. Thank God i convinced my parents to walk away, and when my parents told the uplines aka boss lol that they dont want to do this anymore...i swear these people became like leeches and wouldnt leave us alone...they were bringing over people to convince us otherwise...they used the line your son went to college and spent thousands of dollars and will work in the corporate world where he can get fired anytime...they were downplaying my college education!! are u freaking kidding me?!?! these fools were telling my parents to put the business that they do have right aside...and work on this quixtar crap...go to like 2 mandatory meetings a week plus any the upline conducts...they say it will only take 2 hrs out of ur day...when they make u sit down and listen to their trash for HOURS!!!! I stopped picking up this guy's calls and he tells my parents that he got hurt...screw you! lol...my parents finally realized how much of a scam this really is and they nicely walked away...yeh their registration fee went to waste but at least they walked away from wasting A LOT more money on cd's books meeting and seminars (one of quixtar's main income channels)...

I say to people....if anyone approached you about joining quixstar..dont be rude, smile, punch them in the face, and walk away hahah...nawww, just run the other way man...there are plenty of better and legit ways to make money in this world...be safe stay away.

brian   li

10:31pm on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

by the way i never said it was great i said it was an opportunity period thats it. It is great for some of my friends as well as myself. There are many people that really dont believe in things other then 1 thing a job please what does a job give you. You can get laid off fired a company can merge then what its unemployment time thank God i for 1 have never worked for a job getting paid weekly or biweekly. I am only bashing negative people period thats why 80% of the population work for an employer. Wait a minute let me get my alarm clock i dont have to worry about those things. Sure i went to college got a masters degree but really where does it get you to be honest you talk about thousands of dollars lol how about 75k for college and a masters degree. I dont know where you spend so much money who gives you these figures like thousands of dollars. I buy some things but mostly have customers by many things from my website which is giving me residual income the problem is most people will never have residual you sure dont get this ina job thats called linear income. Its funny how people talk about what 8 products out of hundreds. Oh by the way barnes and noble circuit city models sports authority ibm microsoft dell i guess all these companies must be lousy since they work with us. Try looking under google sucks or microsoft sucks and see how many hits they have in the negative category we only have what 13800 alot less then all the other companies. Listen it dont work for a lot of people but some it does let people decide for themselves if they want to join everyone has a mind of its own. Its funny we have been around for 50 years a billion dollar industry but yet we get bashed really amazing. The majority of people i know like energy drinks and vitamins it works for me and my friends really all that matters anyway. Keep working for a job see where it gets you its called nowhere the new retirement age 72 thats a fact. Its funny i have a friend who is a suffolk police officer he has a guaranteed job then he tells me he is going to retire his income is 120k now he will get half pay for the rest of his life which is 60k which after taxes is like 30k this is a so called job i feel sorry for him because now he has to go out and get another job work 2 jobs for a while. The facts are as long as you work for an employer you really wont get anywhere. People in jobs if they knew anything they would be rich today. The reality is you cant get the wrong people to do the right thing in life. Ego will get you broke submission will get you rich.

Dont let obstacles get in the way of your success.
Dont listen to your broke friends in life thats what is really funny.

Linear income take your time and trade it for other peoples dollars you only have 24 hours in a day

Residual Income repeat income money comes in forever all the time. Poor people stop working they dont get paid thats a fact.

Rich get richer the medicore get poorer.

Well good luck in life i hope it works out for you and everyone is happy in their job by the way social security will be gone by 2041 medicare by 2019 those are facts as well.

brian   li

7:53pm on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

i didnt know mr negative is name calling where do you come from lol. Listen it works for me i really dont care who else it works for period as long as i bring in new ibos and customers to my site. I am just tired of people putting down things they know nothing about only what they read. It has done ok for me i didnt say id be rich im comfortable. If you continue working in a job you wont get anywhere in life and you can tell it to all the bear stearns employees who are now jobless in case you noticed as well as the other financial tycoon lehman brothers who just laid off my friend who was making a high 6 figure income he is now jobless.

These are the facts when you work for an employer you my friend are in a PYRAMID you will never make what the ceo or cfo make and those are the facts. In this business the person who sponsored me doesnt make more then me for your information which is why i say this is no pyramid. My friend vinnie pappalano he brings in a residual income of 51k a month which is a fact as well as my other friend charlie durso who brings in an average of 40k a month so it works for the very few but it does work thank you. Keep working for an employer and see where you get its called cant retire until 72 those are the facts

Brian   Phoenix

3:55pm on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

Thanks for the laugh Brian from LI. You said you like the energy drinks? That's fine but how does that make them a necessity in everyday life? It doesn't. You said people need Quixtar products and that's NOT true.

Sure Amway/Quixtar is a multi-million dollar company, that doesn't mean IBO's are.

Seems to me if you made 125K last year, you wouldn't be so defensive, about it. You wouldn't have to resort to name calling, and assuming.

You can try to bash me, you can try to put me down if it makes you feel better. And I know that's why IBO's feel the need to bash critics. It's because we make much more money than you, and you can't stand it. You can't stand the fact that we're right, and all the people that have told you Quixtar/Amway is not a good way to financial freedom are right.

I'm just curious how many of the same people are posting on here under different names to try to make it seem like Quixtar/Amway is so great. Because either you're all programmed the same or you all share the same brain. Amazing how you all use the same techniques and defenses. Also amazing how so many of you use the same name calling routine, like "dream killer" or "mr. negative."

Sorry bub, I live in the real world. I'm a realistic person. I have a solid base, I don't have my head in the clouds. And most importantly I don't spend thousands of dollars each year, on tapes, CD's, motivational functions and rallies, and incredibly overpriced products.

Yeah I talked about some products, you have over 1 million. Give me a dozen AMWAY/QUIXTAR products that are competitively priced to a retailer.

brian   li

3:38am on Wednesday, March 26th, 2008 

like i said mr negative i have nothing to prove to you brian from phenoix again bashing a company that makes milions. You are probably someone that lives in a cave in the woods trying to bash peoples dreams. You talk about some products we have over 1 million. I have proven i am in ruby qualification took me almost 2 years but im getting there. I am not going to work until i am 72 living paycheck to paycheck like most. You call it a dream well my dream is coming true mr negative. Wake up and get a life and stop bashing peoples businesses. They are a billion dollar business if they were so bad they would be out of business. I happen to like energy drinks and there are loads of people who drink them just because you dont really doesnt make it no good as well as vitamins which do work for me. You need to get a life and you use all these statistics if i listened to statistics all my life i wouldnt be where i am today. It works for the people that put the time into it i have made over 125k so far and there that is a fact mr negative i only made 43k my first year but now i have made over 125k between may and now just by doing the things i do. I neevr asked your opinion and no i am not kidding like i said you live in a cave get lost and stop bashing peoples dreams. I suppose you bash the book the secret as well that it cant work right typical negative man or boy i might add

Brian   Phoenix

11:39am on Tuesday, March 25th, 2008 

LOL! Brian from LI are you kidding me?

You said "Quixtars business model is desgined to sell products that really work to people that really need them at really fair and reasonable prices."

Reasonable prices? $14 for aftershave? $20 for a disposible razor? $8 for shaving cream? Those are reasonable prices? What about $9.60 for a 10.5oz bottle of shampoo? Boy oh boy, Walmart has nothing on Quixtar LOL!

Quixtar sells products that people REALLY NEED? Like what? XS energy drinks? People don't NEED energy drinks, nor do they need vitamins and supplements.

You Quixtar IBO's constantly, and I mean CONSTANTLY, try and compare yourself and your products to Walmart. You constantly BASH Walmart, and yet, I See so many Quixtar IBO's trying to "prospect" people at Walmart. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. WHy try and recruit people, who shop at Walmart? Obviously those people are not shopping at Walmart for overpriced products.
That's like an owner of a 5 star restaurant, who sells an $80 steak, going into McDonald's to get people to eat at his restaurant.

You want to compare Quixtar to a convenient store? Again, terrible comparison. How convenient is Quixtar? I'm out of paper towels, or toilet paper. I can either go 2 minutes up the street and grab a roll of TP, or I can place my order through Amway/Quixtar and anxiously wait for the box to arrive.

Jeremy from WV I'm glad that Quixtar is "way cooler" than Tupperware or Avon, but facts are facts. 99.9% of IBO's don't make any money, and most of them lose money.

I love hearing about how "I know a guy, who knows a guy who made millions. My upline has a masnion. My uncle and aunt are filthy rich." etc etc etc.

I want somebody to PROVE to me that it's happened for THEM. I also want a Quixtar IBO to give me proof that Quixtar/Amway works if you put the time and effort (and of course tons of $$$$) into it.

I know plenty of IBO's who have done EVERYTHING their upline has told them to do, read all the books, have a trunk load of CD's, and spend the waking hours of the evening, doing everything in their power just to make ends meat, selling a "dream". Meanwhile they are no closer, to making any real money, but they are on the verge on losing lots of money.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. A TRUE business owner sells PRODUCTS, where as a Quixtar IBO sells a "dream"
Sorry, dreams are great, but you're not paying bills or feeding yourself with dreams.

brian   li

2:03pm on Monday, March 24th, 2008 

when you think about all the money you've thrown away all these years buying stuff on impulse well you've got to laugh. I know one thing for sure the discount stores that sold you the stuff are laughing too all the way to the bank. The quixtar business model on the other hand isnt designed to enitce people into a store with loss leaders in order to sell people stuff they didnt plan on buying and likely dont need. Unlike discount stores Quixtars business model is desgined to sell products that really work to people that really need them at really fair and reasonable prices. That to me is a business midel worht building which i am on my way to great success so far. Now, i dont mean to sound like a walmart basher. Walmart is the best at what they do. They perfected the deep discount model and companies that try to compete directly with them on everyday low prices are in for trouble. Just ask kmart which recently filed for bankruptcy. Its foolish to try to compete with wal mart by adopting their discount model. The good news is that you dont have to. The key is to do what convenience stores do adopt a business model that offers intangibles that walmart CAN NEVER OFFER. Such as great service convenience opportunity or better yet all 3. Just as walmart executives dont sit around the conference table talking about how to compete with upscale business models like lord and taylor and tiffanys. Walmarts head honchos dont spend their time thinking up ways to turn their customers into independent business owners either why because the leadership at walmart is too busy worrying about their own business model towrry about quixtar and saks and circle k.

Randon Taylor   Las Vegas

3:47pm on Sunday, March 23rd, 2008 

Imo there are way better out there. Find a company that will offer the same product at a better price than what you get at the local walmart and you have a superior company. I personally couldn't care less about quality. I want to save money. Imo most people prefer cheap over quality. Look at walmart its definately not known for quality. Or even more obvious, mcdonalds. You'd be hard pressed to find a lower quality product, but it's cheap, AND you know what you're going to get.

Jeremy   wv

7:29am on Friday, March 21st, 2008 

I absolutely love Quixtar. I can't stand people that say it doesn't work. If you didn't make any money, it's because of your lack of work. I have never been told not one time that it's a get rich quick scheme. If anyone registered as an IBO told you it was they need reported to Quixtar so they can be corrected. I was told up front I will have to work to be successful. Actually, Quixtar is the same type of business as Tupperware, Avon, Pampered Chef, and so on just a lot cooler and I think way better. So if Quixtar's a scam than all the rest are too. My mom sold Tupperware and when I showed the IBO plan to her she got it right off. She said it's the same kind of payment plan as Tupperware only you have the potential to make a lot more money. And as for going to Quixtar major function, go to a Tupperware Rally, they are the same type function. I know people that do Avon and spend more in the catalogs that they pass out than they make and I don't see sites trashing Avon. I just know that people that say Quixtar doesn't work never sponsored anyone nor sold any products 7500PV=platinum=$2600+ a month period. If you do nothing you'll make nothing just like any other business in the world.

Trista   Canada

1:18pm on Thursday, March 20th, 2008

Very well said Bri. Encouraging as well. I look forward to the many benefits that Quixtar has to offer and if I feel that it isn't for me, then out I go. Though, I doubt that will happen. Thanks for the boost in confidence.

bri   li

9:34am on Thursday, March 20th, 2008

I thought another great thing about this business is that you can do it anywhere in almost any country which i think is super.

In your job can you just leave the state or city you are in and just move to another country or state id say odds are you can't unless you do have your own business whether it be this one or something else.

Becoming a platinum to me was so easy its pathetic. You make about 2800 a month on an average now if you are working in your job and you have this as well part time is that bad? I dont think so

I dont see why that would be a problem. Listen they have been trying to get us for a long time and have they i think not that is why we are still going making billions this industry and will be around for years to come.

As for me i know it works and i listen to no one especially their negative feedback about this business i am doing well so can you and if not its ok there are plenty of jobs out there isn't their.

If i listened to stats id be broke today its all about your mind and how you use it.

brian   li

9:29am on Thursday, March 20th, 2008 

here is how i see it. Do what you think is good? No one in life has a gun to someones head when making a decision. I have done well in this business so far and for me that is all that matters. If i listened to stats i wouldnt have joined and done well in this business. It is true some things in life don't work for everyone. I used to be around so many negative people i wanted to explode and told them that they think they know everything but yet they are broke. They listen to more of their broke friends which is really hilarious. I never said life is easy and everything takes time and hard work but as for me it took me a little while but i am almost at the level i want which is a ruby. I will go diamond in maybe another 2-4 years but so what as long as i make it really does it matter because it dont take you away from your day job and no one is telling anyone to quit their job. Lets look at life itself now look how many jobs are going down the drain take bear stearns and lehman brothers in nyc if you had a good job there guess what its gone in the business i have now which is quixtar it will be here for a long time. The people that are getting laid off have no outlet and no where to go other then the unemployment line which i chose not to go there. I think many businesses have their ups and downs but hey this is life it works for the people who want it to work its really a numbers game I mean i spoke to 8 people yesterday and 3 decided they want to be an ibo and 2 wanted to be customers the others said no which is ok i just say next in my mind and no hard feelings hope it works out for you whatever you choose in your life. In this business if you dont like people it wont work anyway. This business is financial freedom and if they were so bad they wouldnt have been around for 50 years hello people. You really have nothing to lose i have gained quite a bit in this business money, knowledge,good friends, and eventually residual income. Most people will work until the new retirement age which is 72 i dont plan on being the 80% of those people that can't retire. I know many people who have great businesses which is awesome i just happen to like this business for me its a win win. I wish the best for everyone who tried it or has tried something else that works for them in their life God bless.

Trista   Canada

10:00pm on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

I didn't like putting my name as anonymous because I have nothing to hide. It was just some insecurities about what others think about me. Does it really matter what others think when I have Christ? Nope. Anywho, anyone got some more info on Quixtar in Europe as I will be going there in August. I hear that Quixtar and Amway are merging. It's going to be global now. What do you all think about that? Good for your businesses or not so good?

Anonymous   Canada

2:18pm on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

Oh ya, about this whole brain-washing thing. I think that if someone is so mesmerized by the thought of getting rich quick, it's the love of money that brain washes them. Everyone has a mind of their own. All of us have choices and if we make the right ones then we will benefit. If wrong choices are made, then the outcome may not be so pleasant. Personally, I believe that having my brain washed by something positive is great. My brain is washed daily by the Truth. I am proud to say that I am brain washed by Christ. It was the best decision I have ever made. Therefore, I CHOOSE not to be mesmerized by the thought of what I might gain from Quixtar, but the thought of what OTHERS might gain from my involvement in Quixtar.

Anonymous   Canada

1:45pm on Wednesday, March 19th, 2008

Hello All,

I have just been registered with Quixtar believing that I can make a difference in people's lives with the success I hope to gain with this company. I don't know much about the company but what I do know is that I am not forced to do anything I don't want to do. Now that I have seen all these comments about how Quixtar is a scam, I have put some MORE thought in the decision I have made. I have come to the conclusion that I see no harm in trying. I see this as an opportunity to help other people.

I am a new baby Christian and I am here not to judge others and their decisions, but to encourage people to follow Christ. I know my Father is with me and will not let me be burdened with more than I can carry. I see a wonderful chance to help fellow Christians who don't have as much as I do and you know what? If I fail, I don't mind. My focus is not making millions of dollars, it's making millions of disciples. This is just a trial run and if I succeed, then all of it goes to God anyway. I am blessed and I hope everyone sees that they are too.

Anonymous   Location unknown

12:43pm on Tuesday, March 18th, 2008

some one special....THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nicely put :-)

some one special   seattle wa

4:05pm on Saturday, March 15th, 2008

I love how negative a lot of you people are being, you can succeed in quixtar my aunt and uncle did and because they succeed'd so well they are financially free from debt have a gorgous home and give back to the community so all you negative people why dont you call your upline and go out and try growing your business instead of crying

Brandon   IQ

9:22pm on Friday, March 14th, 2008 

Some of these people are so sad. If you are in Quixtar you have no common sense and what is worse the seeming lack of shopping sense. It takes about three seconds on the Quixtar website to realize the products are FAR overpriced. I wish that I could develop a gig where I could convince people to pay a higher price on items, and be happy about it. Wow what a sham. They are charging 17 dollars (not including S&H) on a 24 pack of bottled water. WOW. At wallmart 5-6 dollars. People talk about the quality. OK. Its water. If you are sucked in by this scam you are very, very, sad. You should do some research on the internet before you give some hard earned money to someone else. There really is a sucker born every SECOND.

brian   nyc

7:41am on Friday, March 14th, 2008 

Dan from Minola its interesting we live really near by i live in suffolk county and go to the meetings in the island every monday. Yes the stats say this but i dont look at stats much i have a mind of my own. I am not telling you what to do but i will tell you how i approach someone. I tell them i have an oppotuntity not a guarantee first of all. When i feel someone is not interested i dont keep pursuing people because its a waste of my time and in my mind i am like next next next its a numbers game. I dont tell people leave your job you can do both if you desire i do and it works for me and my business partner he is very credible. I stay around people that have done well go to dinner with them and ask questions to people that have succeeded. If you read everything about people who didnt make it you wont get anywhere thats them you have a mind of your own maybe it wasnt for them maybe they didnt have the drive you either have it or you dont. I spend this money anyway so for me there is no risk its actually a joke. I just bought books from barnes and noble about 3 a month i read i would buy it anyway if i went there so what risk is there. Yes its true not everyone spends 5 dollars for a toothpaste or likes energy drinks but those are just 2 things they have an awesome product line and really i make my money by customers and ibos buying things through my website in this business. I happen to be one who likes x/s not everyone does do people like pepsi or coke everyone in the world does everyone like hersheys no does everyone want to be a rock star no we all do things we enjoy in life and take a chance but really what chance for me its a win win business but for others i wish them the best in whatever they do. How can they be up to no good so the 800 companies that joined and work with them feel the same way. How do you see this listen you have a mind of your own why dont you go to the open meetings and team meetings more your friend is just trying to help you listen man i was the same way as you believe me i felt that way at first but then i saw what i am doing anyway and said wow it does work i get some that say no but then i set them up as a customer or ask for a referral which i did get 6 referrals from 6 people that became customers. This is not a get rich fast program maybe it will take 10 years or more for some but so what wouldnt it be nice after 10 years to make it you still have your job right no one tells you that well you better quit and do this. The people in this business dont quit their job until they get to a certain level. I love this business but you have to remember not everyone in life wants you to be happy but hey i wish the best for people in life life is tough and we have to do something that makes us feel good. I am a people person and i have no problem in someone making a killing in this business and i go diamond or even emerald. Listen if you make 1 million and i make 400000 it dont matter to me what matters to me is i achieved my goal and you did as well.

brian   nyc

7:27am on Friday, March 14th, 2008 

hello maria from nj how are you today. First of all Maria we dont guarantee you anything it is an opportunity you make it work for you if thats what you want to do. I have met many people in the 5 months now that i have been in this and it works for me but maybe not for the other party. I agree totallt with you and it does make sense. Yes its true there are stats in here that are not favoring but i agree scams are all over the place in life. I go to the opens and team meetings alot and listen the worst case scenerio is you just get smarter from reading some books which cost like what 6 bucks and cds that cost like what 7 dollars it only makes you smarter. Its funny i work in the police dept as well as real estate and this business but i plan on leaving my job in life very soon once i make ruby qualification i will leave. Its all about your mind listen everything takes time in life alot of people dont make it i agree but does it have to be you or me think about it. Remember success will never attack you. I understand alot of people are scared sceptical but hey life is about taking a risk. Hi Jill from kentucky yes it can be diffcult but not to get people i am not in this to get people i look for people that maybe want to make some extra money on the side. I think you need to sit down with the person that sponsored you because he is for sure not working with you enough. The reason no one is excited or interested is to me maybe your approach listen to more cds and get back to people that have been successful in this business listen i know its not alot of people stats wise but again do you want to be one of the people who quit something. Listen if its not for you its not for you period. Its funny my sponsor he is 27 he is going into emerald qualification he left his computer it field job making good money and decided to leave because of the hours he put in like 50 hours a week he is one of my closest friends i see the checks he does well but he works hard just talking to people he just shows the plan and gets results. Some people have a knack for this business and it comes a bit easy. I am the same way i look for people that want an opportunity. The only thing guaranteed in life is death and taxes and thats that lol. I was sceptical about this business i have a masters in business and a pretty good background in these type of business. As for me yes i spend 250 dollars a month big deal i spend about 500-600 a month already with my wife. I buy pretty much the same things i would ordinarily buy anyway its a joke really what are you spending if people have a brain they will see they are spending the same money. Examples i buy cereal, toilet paper, dish washing liquid and the 800 companies that work with us these sites i buy from them which is the same as the store. People just dont understand but its ok i am not here to tell a person what to do if its for you great if not ok do something that makes you happy for me and my wife it works. Hi Dan from Minola,well when you friend keeps pushing you its not good i just tell people what i have show the plan and thats it i am not going to chase people he must be new in this business. I know when someone is interested i dont waste my time constantly calling people that dont want it.

Maria   New Jersey

10:38pm on Thursday, March 13th, 2008 

I'm 19 years old, turning 20 soon. I want to be a teacher and I know the money is not great in the work force. My mom and I were told by two people that they had business programs (Quixtar) that they wanted to share with us, but we sent them away since we had already tried Avon. Then one of my good friends calls me and tells me she needs to talk to me, without my knowledge, I was informed about Quixtar. At first, I was very ignorant and rejected the idea. Nonetheless, my friend's parents are an example of the success of this program. They don't lie about the products, they are informed about the products and help you understand the benefits. That is the way a business owner benefits the society and his business.
I became an IBO of this business, a business that guarantees many things, but you must put effort. What kind of job doesn't require an input? I have a goal in mind, and that is to get people to gain money and become economically stable through good and legal means, just as my friend's parents. You can't blame one, two, five, or even ten people for something that has been working for thousands of people legally. My mind is set up like a lawyer's (since I was really good at debating with facts), but I am not going to give all facts too people to prove my point because after all, you probably have made your decision about this business already.
Where those all the money come from? Well, you see businesses closing everyday (they don't want to pay for employees, for medical insurance, for law suits, for maintaince, etc). These businesses search for companies like Quixtar, that has been successful for almost 50 years, and give the IBOs who spread the word the profit. So instead of paying for a lot of Ads and losing money (since people usually go to the bathroom during a commercial break) these companies pay the IBOs the money for their services. Doesn't it make sense? It's not a scam that thousands of people do; the scams are done by people who break the laws and then are punished. Scams are done in any business by other means, just think about it.

Dan   Mineola,NY

6:50pm on Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 

what to say, what to say. im extreamly skeptical about this. I will end up not joining but my persistant friend keeps pushing and pushing. after reading this and some selected responses, I noticed that tha people who disagreed with us ( saying quixtar is worth it ) really had no backup facts. other than tha millions and bajillions of dollars they made per second of every waking day. complete nonsense if you ask me. any company that asks me for a $250 deposit BEFORE I start working, is most deffinatley up to no good. care to talk more, IM me on AIM: papasmurfolife

Jill   Kentucky

1:14pm on Wednesday, March 12th, 2008 

Hello all! My husband and I recently joined Quixtar and have found it very difficult to get people excited and involved in this product/opportunity! Can anyone give us advise? Do we get out now or continue to try for a few more weeks. We have called everyone on our list and NO ONE is interested! Those of you who are successful how did you do it!

Quixtar Rocks   ???

10:17am on Monday, March 10th, 2008 

Im 21 and have been in for 4 months........should reach platinum in 3 months....making about an extra 1300 a month.....now what

Brian   Phoenix

2:33pm on Thursday, March 6th, 2008 

Brian from NY, why do you constantly say "if everyone thought like me, nobody would be anywhere". How do I think? Quixtar's statistics are based on the AVERAGE IBO. That doesn't mean I think like the average person. It also doesn't make me a negative thinker.

Do you think I got into my business to make $20,000 a year? $50,000 a year? Do you think I wasn't motivated to start my own business, make my own hours and make my own decisions as to what would be best for myself and my business?

Look man, it's like this. Not all IBO's are bad, but most of them practice deception and it's not their fault. They do what they're told to do.
There are way too many limitations on IBO's in Quixtar/Amway.
The fact that the products are overpriced or, at least not competitive, is a big problem. The fact that an IBO can't sell his/her products in a store, online, or have a display is another limitation.
If the emphasis in this "business" was more on retailing products, at a competitive price, rather than, recruiting other IBO's it might not be so bad. But the fact is, many of the big pins make 50%-75% of their income on CD's, tapes, and speaking engagements. An IBO doesn't tell the prospect about the "tape and tool" income, either because they don't know about it, or because they know it would chase the prospect away.

Like I've said before, I don't wish for IBO's to fail, not at all, I wish you guys, and gals, nothing but the best. All I want is for people to be aware of what they're getting themsleves into.
I want them to research matters on Amway/Quixtar.

It just amazes me how, at least when I'm prospected, (and I always let them give me their schpiel) an IBO always tells me I only have to work 10-15 hours a week for 2-5 years to make millions. Then, later hear all kinds of IBO's say "People are lazy, and they don't work hard enough". Well which is it?

I hear "You get out of it what you put into it". Well that's probably more accurate. So why don't IBO's come right out and say; "Hi I'm (insert name) I am involved with Amway/Quixtar and I really enjoy what I do. Would you like an opportunity to make some extar $$$? Depending on how hard you work, you can make some serious money. If you're willing to listen to tapes, CD's, read books, attend speaking engagements, and attend weekly meetings, plus work 30-40 hours a week showing others how to make money, you could earn some serious cash over the next 10-15 years."

Doesn't that sound more realistic? I think that's more realistic, but it certainly doesn't sound as appealing as "10-15 in 2-5 years".
In my opinion, until Amway/Quixtar focuses on the retailing aspect of the "business" and gets away from the motivational and recruiting aspect, it'll never be a great opportunity.

The whole thing with the "average" is that many people are average, and Quixtar/Amway is supposed to benefit the AVERAGE person who can't afford the overhead and expenses that come with owning a business. Quixtar/Amway is supposed to give people without a college education, or even a high school education a chance to make millions.

Some things just are the way they are, Brina from NY. Many people are average, and that's just the way life is, perhaps this is why I always refer to the average. I mean I go by Quixtar's stats. How would you like me to post them? My source is Quixtar itself. How does that make me negative when I take the statistics right from thisbiznow.com? If the statistics are negative how can you blame me? I just post them, I don't make them.

Like I said, I wish nothing but the best for everyone. Quixtar is for some people. I never said it wasn't for anyone. It's just not likely anyone will make any money and Quixtar's statistics prove it.
I read somewhere that in 2006 Quixtar broke 178 Diamonds, and in 2007 they only broke 67.
It is an opportunity, but so is winning the lottery. That doesn't mean I'd like to spend $500 a month on lotto tickets. I don't know what you want me to say Brian from NY. All I do is list statistics and speak of my personal experiences.

I've been to open meetings before, I've talked to numerous IBO's and numerous prospects. Of course, you guys/gals will always say people like me are "negative" and you IBO's have to focus on the positive. It would probably be a lot easier to focus on the positive of Amway/Quixtar if their was more positive than negative, unfortunately, that's not the case.

brian   nyc

5:50am on Thursday, March 6th, 2008 

there you go again with average brian from phoenix do you always think average.Listen we all have a right to our opinion i never tell people they have to join if you want to fine if not no problem because its a numbers game period and by the way our company is called ALTICOR although i know plenty of people that made it in amway as well. You can be a realist but if everyone thought like you no one would ever be successful or take a chance. Its no risk to you i have a friend in this business he spends about 250 dollars on his items from a tv to a vcr to food to energy drinks but he has alot of customers that buy things from his site which generates a pretty decent income part time around 1750 he does not spend 1000 a month lol at least i dont anyway i spend around 300-400 a month and my return is alot more so for me its a win win. I am not telling anyone to come into this business if its for you great if its not do what you like plain and simple. I enjoy the things i get paid for and not everything is the same price yes true there are things more but if you do your research there are things the same price as the store but i dont have to wait on a stupid line during the holidays or spend money on gas which by the way is a writeoff on my expenses including everything i spend on cds and meetings. I only go to 3 meetings a month which costs me 18 dollars total and i buy like 2 cds a week which is like 10 dollars a week so for the month i spend maybe 60 dollars if that with my 340 say thats 400 a month not 1000 by the way and i dont think about average people because if everyone thought average no one would get anywhere in life. I am not a believer in stats thats just me we all have a right to our opinion so brian from phenoix may all your dreams and goals come true good luck i hope it works out for you. I am one of the lucky ones i just showed 2 plans last night they want to be a customer the other an ibo i mean sometimes youll meet people that are really ambitious and sometimes they realize its not for them. I have a job in life i work for a real estate firm which im kind of happy about because i do well with my wife but if you want to talk about stats the average real estate agent really stats wise is rather low as well but i just love what i do in life. You do have great mentors in this business and its nice that people help people try to achieve their goals. Not everyone wants to make a fortune in this business I had someone tell me they would like to make 10k a year and they would be happy part time and they would still have their full time job i said ok lets get started no one said this was an easy business very difficult but i love challenges and i want to prove to myself that i think for me stats are just what they are stats. I am me and we all have different minds. For me to be honest i really dont care about the name i care about the concept this is a family business and with the right people you can make it in this business. I think in life we have to grow and think for ourselves. It is true one person said its a waste of time to talk in here and i actually think he is right i do have better things to do which im going to do and i wish you the best brian from phenoix and respect your opinion thank you for making me even more motivated to do what i need to do good luck and God bless

Jeff   Minneapolis

3:28pm on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008

I've lurked here for the last couple days, and I find the dialog both disturbing and fascinating. I gave my honest opinion and thought I would leave it at that, but after reading some of the postings, now I must speak.

As most of you are no doubt aware, there is a consumer watchdog site called ripoffreport, and Quixtar is represented there as well. The dialog is similar, in that people that felt they were taken for a ride (please note that I said ‘felt’, and not ‘provided absolute proof beyond a shadow of a doubt’) spoke out against Quixtar, and those already involved were fiercely protective of it.

This overwhelming reaction has pointed me in one direction really, and that is most of the Quixtar membership population has a hive mentality, a safety-in-numbers sort of feeling with respect to those who are all involved. Whether or not members are coached to behave a certain way (as was suggested) or not, perhaps certain personality types just tend to gravitate towards this sort of business. Most of the people who have been quite aggressive in defending the business have been very reactionary, very emotional, very argumentative, and have not expressed themselves or their points in a clear, logical, mature fashion. True, those opposed have been equally argumentative, but their points have been valid, their questions are reasonable and they have not been challenged – only belittled. I agree with Brian from Phoenix in that this behavior is not at all consistent with what I would expect from someone who is proud of what they are doing, and believes in it through and through. I suspect it is driven by insecurities and the fear of failure, backing out, being wrong, choosing a different direction, or simply afraid of what other people think.

Despite any facts about income levels or business practices, this is precisely why I refuse to go anywhere near this company. At the end of the day, it just does not feel *right*, and I don’t want to be involved or even associated with these kinds of behaviors. There is something very artificial about the entire experience, and I was scared away pretty easily.

Take these comments for whatever you wish, call me negative, call me what you want. I’m no longer reviewing it, and nor do I hope to dissuade anyone from giving it a try. I would however, like to part with a question if someone involved would care to answer in a straightforward and honest manner- To what degree of research, scrutiny, and systematic reasoning did you apply when evaluating this opportunity?

Scott   Wisconsin

3:03pm on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Hello,
I was searching for information related to how the Quixtar "Smart Menu" meals are packaged (I am a customer of my son) when I came across this page. Curiosity got the better of me and I read a few postings...then I read them all. I have to say that it seems odd for all of you to spend, what seems like an inordinate amount of time discussing semantics, or opinions which obviously vary from person to person.

Brian from Pheonix (or NY, hard to tell who was who), your Quixtar Affiliated IBO'ship must not be doing as well as you claim to have such "thin skin" (i.e. "...thou doest protest too much..."), or, you have succeeded to a level which allows you the time. Nonetheless, it matters not what anyone else says about your business. Get back to work.

Brian from NY (or Pheonix, ..."); the Quixtar/Amway Opportunity (as Toyota/Lexus) is just that,...an opportunity. One must weigh the benefits and cost, and decide for themselves. It is good that you wish the best of success to those IBO's, your fellow citizens trudging through life as best they can, or have been taught. Take that fact, extend greetings, and go about selling whatever you are selling.

For a little perspective; I just spent nearly ten thousand dollars of my time (if I was invoicing myself) to write this note. We are all given but a short time to live...please, do not waste it. I have yet to hear of a dying man's last words as, "I wish I had spent more time arguing!"

Humbly, ...the protectionist

Brian   Phoenix

1:44pm on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Yeah, whatever you say anonymous. Brian from NY has "good common sense".

I think anyone with common sense would realize, that a "business" with a 99% failure rate is not a good investment.

Anonymous   Location unknown

9:06am on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Brian from NYC, I could not agree with you more. I'm very pleased to see that someone with some belief and good common sense has finally contributed to this blog. Good luck with your business! With your positive attitude and undying belief, your business is sure to succeed! Quixtar all the way!!

Brian   Phoenix

8:13am on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 

Brian, Brian, Brian. How many contradictions are in your statements? You say the average worker will retire at 72, you say the average worker this and the average worker that. Yet when it come to Quixtar WHICH IS AMWAY. (Get that through your head man. Do you think guys like Bill Britt, joined Quixtar in 1999? You don't think guys like Dexter Yager and Larry Winters were around when Amway became Quixtar in North America?
For someone being in Ruby qualification, and someone who reads so much, you really don't know much about your supplier do you?)

Anyway, youspeak about the average worker, yet when you talk about Quixtar/Amway, the averages and statistics don't seem to matter. Kind of funny how you twist those things in your favor. You also say "I don't care about 99% of people failing because I know how what it does for me". Huh, I thought one of the big selling points of Quixtar IBO's was the fact that they were giving people a "great opportunity" yet you state that you don't care about anyone but yourself. Pretty selfish attitude if you ask me.

You can call me negative all you want. Fact is I'm a realist, and if the real world has negative aspects, so be it, we have to live with it. Negative, or not, facts are facts. I've NEVER stated it was impossible to get rich in Quixtar, I've simply stated facts, the same facts, over and over and over again. It is possible, but very, very unlikely.

You mention the 6.8 billion dollars in sales. Yeah, that's awesome for QUIXTAR/AMWAY. Too bad 6.568 BILLION of that is sold to IBO's, and only 220 Million is of that is sold to RETAIL customers. See, Quixtar/Amway make a boat load of money, and nobody is denying that The Van Andel's and The Devos's are filthy rich at the expense of IBO's.

You're successful? Good for you Brian, I'm happy for you. You're one of the few that has found success in the Quixtar/Amway "business". You're one of, the less than 1%, that has actually succeeded.

I appreciate you answering my questions on how much you spend on books, tapes, rallies, meetings etc. You said you spend about 1,000 a MONTH. The average IBO makes $1,400 a YEAR. So if an IBO follows your direction, but still doesn't see results (which is very possible because there are NO guarantees in Quixtar/Amway) (s)he spends $12,000 a year just on motivational materials and, if they even make the average of $1,400 a year. That means they've LOST $10,600 in a year. That doesn't include, the products they buy at higher prices (higher quality or not, the prices are still incredibly high). It doesn't include fuel for you vehicle, travel time, milage or hours showing the "plan"

Let me go into the prices for a second. Just a few examples. I have to shave frequently, therefore razors, shaving cream, and after shave are things I use quite often. Now, I can go to Walmart and buy a Gillette, Mach 3 razor for $7.99, Aqua Velva aftershave for $3.49 and Edge shaving Gel 2/$5.00. The total, after tax is around $18.
Now, at Quixtar/Amway, I can buy Tolsom shaving cream for $12.45, Tolsom aftershave for $14.00 and the Quixtar/Amway disposible razor for $20. After tax that total is around $50. Not to mention I only get one can of shaving cream, and I have to wait for it to arrive at my door. Either way, that's an extra $32 I have to spend to buy products through my "business". Seems to me if I actually owned my own business, I'd be able to buy such products for a much lesser, or even competitive price.

Glister Toothpaste is garbage. Like I said, it's not recommended by the ADA so how is it even possible that it is better than Crest, Colgate, Aqua Fresh or whatever other toothpastes are out there for half the price of Glister?

You think I'm a negative thinker, I thnk I'm a realist. You think Amway/Quixtar is a good opportunity, I think it isn't. Differening opinions does not make me a negative thinker. My opinions are based solely on FACTS. And once again I'll list the FACTS about Amway/Quixtar

- Average "ACTIVE" IBO makes $1400 a year GROSS
- 66% of IBO's are found to be "active" (meaning they've attended at least one meeting or bought product from Quixtar/Amway over the past year). include all IBO's and the average income is around $77 a month or $925 a year GROSS.
- Working the 10-15 hours IBO's say, you only have to work to be successful (it ends up to be much more) that would equate to between $1.28-$1.95 an hour (before taxes and expenses)
- 66% of IBO's drop out each year. All this means is that if you sponsor 100 people you're likely to have to replace more than 1 IBO a week to stay at your pin level. So much for residual income.
- Only .4% (1 in 240) will reach Platinum Qualification
- Only .001% (1 in 14,000) will reach Diamond Quailification.
- 99% of all IBO's will not make any money from Quixtar/Amway

The source, for all of my facts are from QUIXTAR itself.

One last thing Brian, from NY. When you "prospect" IBO's are you up front with them? Do you actually tell them what you do, or do you snake around the truth? Do you tell people you're affiliated with Quixtar before you start drawing circles on a white board?

Finally, here's the difference between an IBO, for Quixtar/Amway, and a TRUE business OWNER. An IBO sells a "dream" a "business" and an "opportunity" a TRUE business owner sells actual PRODUCTS.

brian   nyc

9:20pm on Tuesday, March 4th, 2008 

how to succeed in the business well with minds like yours for sure there is no chance. I spend around 7 dollars for each cd which is around id say maybe 35 dollars a month books whats wrong with buying books like think and grow rich by napoleon hill or the magic of thinking big but of course you wouldnt know what im talking about anyway which is funny actually. Why cant a guy have motivation if its going to bring me alot of money and that is what inspires me whats it to you like i said a negative guy will always try to knock a business. You are a negative thinker by the way who tells me this your actions and other peoples actions when one says a person cant succeed what does that mean it isnt positive. Listen here are some stats for you the average workers in life that lives paycheck to paycheck cant retire until 72 which wont be me thats the first thing. You can get fired, laid off in a job how can you compare a labor linear income to owning your own business please give me a break like i said most people can live paycheck to paycheck slumping around doing nothing with their life i like to be inspired and if it inspires me thats my business mr negative. Why do i need to advertise and besides its a 6.4 billion dollar business why change something that is working please give me a break we dont need to advertise on tv we are doing just fine for your information alot better then working in a job going nowhere. Where do you get off saying we are amway you know nothing about business first of all amway by the way did well for some people amway never had 800 companies like ibm and microsoft to back us up. For you information if i thought like you i wouldnt be doing so well in life thank God i dont have to have people like you around me because if i did id live like a average person never thinking big thank the Lord im not around negative energy. For you info glister is better then both for me anyway thats the first thing centrum sucks period id rather spend more money on something good and by the way im not tired since i take these for me thats a proven fact. Also for your information we are spending a billion dollars advertising jan 1 2010 its funny how people continue to knock a business they were never in to begin with and like i said its not for everyoone and im not telling anyone to join me but for me getting the people i need wont be hard because i only need a certain amount of people and we have alone like what 8 million people in nyc the stats favor me thank you very much and no one can bring me down because when a person is motivated and positive a person can say anything but for me its all in the mind positive energy brings positive results. I am in ruby qualification on my way down the road to being a diamond. I dont believe in statistics because on every given day someone can be a hero. I am not into sports because i dont watch people get rich i want to get to be rich people who watch sports all day watching people keep making money while the average worker lives paycheck to paycheck is not my idea of a good life. I dont care about 99% of the people who dont make it thats them i know who i am. It is also not likely that the average worker will get anywhere in life. I dont want to have to worry like an average worker about paying a bill or worry about the mortgage or worry about a company merging and you losing your job. You can work 100000 hours in your lifetime over a what 30 year period ill work alot less and make a whole lot more. I dont just do this business for your information my wife and i are successful real estate agents as well. I suppose you are going to tell me stats like only 1 in a million are successful well at least there is an area that stats mean nothing at all to me. I pay 1000 a month to get coached and motivated by the best and that is why im doing well the stats of my income prove it but anyway i feel im wasting my time talking to negative people so GOOD LUCK IN YOUR JOB FOR THE NEXT 40 YEARS WHEN YOU CAN RETIRE AT AGE 72 GOODBYE

Anonymous   Location unknown

8:19am on Tuesday, March 4th, 2008

blah blah blah.

Jeff   Minneapolis

12:18am on Tuesday, March 4th, 2008 

I was solicited by a Quixtar rep. He was polite, well spoken, and extremely vague. In order to learn more, I had to attend a meeting at a hotel. That presentation was more informative and highly motivational, but didn't give me a sense of comfort concerning what the business opportunity was, other than selling the business idea to friends/family/anyone who will listen. I found this blog during a search for information. What I found in my research, as well as in some of the comments here, was consistent with what I intuitively felt- success in this business is very unlikely.

Perhaps I did not adequately follow the presentation, and I readily admit I don't have any experience in MLM or marketing, but I find it quite difficult to believe that a fantastic profit can be had by essentially following directions. In my opinion, there is little to distinguish this opportunity from countless other offers promising the same income potential.

Best wishes if you decide to try it, but it's not for me.

Brian   Phoenix

2:54pm on Monday, March 3rd, 2008 

Excellent retort there, anonymous. That'll certainly convince prospective IBO's that Quixtar/Amway is a legitimate "business" opportunity.
Then again, I'd expect nothing less.

Anonymous   Location unknown

11:30am on Monday, March 3rd, 2008

hey brian from phoenix.....BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!!

Brian   Phoenix

8:42am on Monday, March 3rd, 2008 

Brian, from NY, in all of your ramblings you never really mention anything on how to succeed in the "business".

Also, you really have to use paragraphs or something because your, incredibly long, statements are hard to follow, when you change ideas.

I'm not going to address everything you said because that would take all day. But here are some things I want you to answer.

First of all, you said you buy CD's and books because you need to get motivated. That's fine, but you never did tell me how much you spent on such materials. Secondly, why would you need motivation if this was such a great "business" opportunity?

Also, you mention people are "negative thinkers". Who tells you this? Why is it if somebody questions the business ethics, and morals of Amway/Quixtar (and buy the way Quixtar IS AMWAY) they are negative?
You mention "Facts don't matter because if you want something bad enough it will happen, no matter what anyone says"
That's not true, in the least bit. I wanted to be a major league baseball player when I was a kid. Nobody told me I'd never make it, but when I got to college and realized I couldn't catch up to a 95MPH fastball, no matter how hard I trained, or tried, or believed, I didn't have the God given talent to do so.
Now you mention a baseball player hitting .225 for a season and then doing well in the playoffs? Bad analogy. That's like saying a Quixtar IBO hits 300PV volume for 11 months and then 1 month they hit 1000PV. In the end someone who hits say .314 with 54HRS and 156RBI's in the regular season but only drives in 1 run his last 16 postseason games will still get 275Million over 10 years. Of course I'm talking about Alex Rodriguez.

It's great that you don't count statistics but there is a reason we have them. Just like in any major sport, or study, statistics measure the success of the individual, team or group. The 99% of IBO's who fail to make money in Amway/Quixtar is simply a measure of how likely somebody is to succeed. Of course that doesn't mean you can't be successful, it just means it's not likely. Just like buying a lotto ticket. Nobody says it's not possible, just not likely.

This is the last subject I'll question you on Brain, (from NY), you mentioned how you don't have to answer to anyone in Amway/Quixtar. Ok, then answer me this, why don't you advertise your business in the newspaper? On the radio? Even on TV?
Why not set up a kiosk in the mall? At a fair? On EBAY? Why not get with the owner of a grocery store ot corner store and set up a display case to sell your "amazing" products? Please, instead of beating around the bush with half truths and totally of the wall, responses, that have nothing to do with the question, just, please, simply answer my questions.

Quickly one other thing. You mention your Glister Toothpaste to be superior to Crest, or Colgate LOL! Glister doesn't even have a recommendation by the ADA. How can it possibly be better than Crest or Colgate? Nutralite is definitely a better product than Centrum, I'll give you that. But at $300 for a 6 month supply as compared to Centrum at $13.99 for the same six months do you really need it?
That's like buying a Porsche for 75,000 to go 3 miles up the road to work when you can get a brand new Toyota Camry for half the price. In essence they do the same thing but one costs much more.

brian   nyc

8:42pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Facts truly are if you really work at something all your life and you really want it bad enough it will happen no matter what anyone has to say

Negative people try to break peoples dreams and hopes they need to crawl back in their little hole where they came from please someone get me a case of bug spray will ya lol

Why can't negative people keep their negative comments to themselves if they are so miserable maybe they should get 2 jobs and work even harder in life hey nothing wrong with that just not much of a life

I think in todays society we live in a cruel world people are not optimistic about many things which is very sad. I do feel sorry for people that work many jobs my aunt did for 30 years and she died from stress working for a boss she hated she was only 62. Stress kills many people that work in jobs. The only person i have to answer to which you are sorely mistaken is God period no one else thank you very much just because someone sponsored me doesnt mean i have to answer to her and besides funny thing is i make more then her in this business the last 2 months.

brian   nyc

8:35pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

another area that puzzles me if you do your so called research youll realize this business is not only about selling quixtar products we do work with 800 companies that are pretty credible alot of them. I know if i buy a tv one day then say a camcorder true someone said do you get 1 every month no i dont i get other things like i do read alot i get about 15 books a month from barnes and noble i buy things for my car all kinds of things let me ask you when you go to the store what do they give you its called NADA you get nothing but a receipt a smile and bye come again. I buy all kinds of things every month from sports authority models popular places in nyc and you forget to mention we have a slew of customers which generate me alot of income. We do have things that are cheaper some some the same as others and some more expensive. We are the 1 health and beauty retailer on the internet and thats a fact we also have more hits then ebay thats a fact and by the way last i recall when i buy anything from ebay do i receive a bonus commission rebate check back from them the answer is no and thats a fact. The fact is there are alot of negative people probably a good 80% in the world do you want to be one of them most in here are not everyone but most.

brian   nyc

8:29pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008

by the way im very happy i have alot in my life and i owe some of it to this business im not miserable living paycheck to paycheck having to work 9-5 5 days a week trying to kill time thats a joke which i get from many people. Let me see ill watch tv kill time that will get you fat lazy old fast and get you nowhere. People are closeminded, negative, and are slaves to an extent to their jobs they dont know anything else. I was in computers but saw that id still be working for an employer. Isn't it funny you comment on a business that will be around for another 40 years at least the last laugh will be on people who actually think our name will change back to amway. I know many people who were successful including my dad although my cousin wasnt like i said its a numbers game. I am not saying everyone has to be in quixtar people can start any business all i am saying for me this business is not hard if you apply yourself to it and really work at it. I am also not saying working for corporate america is bad i just want more out of life and i at least can honestly say i dont work for corporate america anymore i work in real estate and do this part time period. Its just like real estate i make my own hours and love working on commission. It is in my opinion the only way to go if you truly want to make a ton of money in the future. In corporate america i laugh because this one guy tells me i made 100k last year i told him what you worked 650 hours overtime in your job and lets see you took home what 60k maybe thats a life yeah maybe for some but i dont need to live that way. The people that dont want to get in i just say next and move on period.

brian   nyc

8:20pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

you call a business a cult because people try to motivate people into succeeding i just dont get it well the facts are if you are negative in life youll stay broke its just like my friend he told me hey no way the new york giants are going to win they have no chance talk about a negative attitude well guess what they won and i took home 700 bucks because i believed they were going to win. All i hear is this cant work and that cant work the word can't or ill try means i won't lets face it this is a numbers game of course not everyone will get involved and no one is telling you to get involved but i will tell you this for every 10 i talk to at least 2 or 3 will and thats all i need constantly to make pretty good money. I guess the very few according to you were negative just like you and they made it please its called have a great attitude in life and see where you go think negative end up nowhere but down in the dumps working until your 72 which will be the new retirement age and lets see social security i hear what 2041 there will be none. I was laughing at this one guy who just finished 20 years on the force in nyc he gets a pension of what 2400 a month for the rest of his life he worked like 50 hours a week you call this a life i call this someone who is in a poor state of income you cant live off this a pension what a joke and risk his life everyday. I feel you have to bond with positive energy around positive people and lets face it if you truly believe in yourself you can do just about anything. Its funny how parents tell you when you are a child go to high school then college then get your masters and go get a job what a joke lol a job is so risky because of many reasons 1-layoffs 2 can get fired 3 companies merge 4 live pay check to pay check if this is how you would like to live which is about 85% of the people in the world go ahead nothing wrong with that but id rather work 15-20 hours a week and not as stressed as the average person. I dont have to worry about paying bills in my own business dont have to worry about a recession being laid off or fired its called working for yourself its the best way to go in life if you truly want to get somewhere unless of course you are say a doctor or dentist but look how many hours they work. You can say what you want whats false listen i answer to no one my upline why do i need to answer to them lol please dont comment on things you know nothing about. WHY do i need to open my store and sell my quixtar products when im doing just fine as is. Why break something that is doing well for me? Why sell on ebay do you get anything back on ebay NO do you get anything back on amazon NO THATS THE FACTS

brian   nyc

5:43pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Well whats guaranteed is if you apply yourself to any business in life it is. Really does anyone really want to be around lazy people in the world who are so negative i think not. Misery does love company. Take a police officer for example they have to be the most negative people ive ever seen they just live paycheck to paycheck i mean granted they do risk their lives everyday but really they are mostly disgrunted people with no real direction. Dont you get tired of people in a job telling you that you have to be here on this day a cop is basically owned by the city just like most people. I think people should not knock a company down when they are not even in this business. Your facts some are true but again if everyone was like you they wouldnt even play mega millions because the chances are like what i in a billion but of course the negative person really has no chance. For example if you tell yourself your going to be late for work you will be liate your mind tells you this. You can listen to facts to me if you do the work which costs really nothing unless you are broke which is funny because i buy cereal, energy drinks, toothpaste by the way is much better then crest or colgate ever will be just like our sa8 pruduct which is a laundry detergent that is out of this world. You keep having centrun and see where you go we have a vitamin that makes centrum look like crap. See i do my research in my products

brian   nyc

4:48pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

tell you what i can guarantee that in the next3-5 years i will be diamond because i believe it and im a confident guy so i guess ill be number 2 out of 14001 which is fine by me and besides what is wrong with being a ruby or sapphire its better them working in corporate americas pyramid at least i can get up when i want and not have to worry about a job thank you very much

brian   nyc

4:46pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

well here is how i look at things see i for dont believe in statistics that is the problem with everyone today brian from phenoix. You asked me what i spend on dvd's cds meetings im being honest i go to 1 meeting a week so thats what 24 dollars plus gas say 50 dollars month. I buy cds because you need them to get inspired. People love to knock businesses really they know nothing about because they are not in them. I have made money in this business so for me it works i never look at stats to be honest for what why cant you or i go diamond please with that attidude you will get nowhere in life. I know at least 8 people who are diamonds did they say oh it cant work 1 in 14000 make it. There are many lazy people in the world which is sad and thats why they dont make it. I know the people who succeed in life its just like baseball you see guys bat what 225 the entire year and then all of a sudden they do fantastic in the playoffs. Stats dont always mean anything just because they all failed do you have to be number 14001 please and besides what is wrong with making an additional 1-2k a month i know i have already so i wish all the negative haters in life will just move on and let people who are positive have their peace. Its funny its almost like saying take hilary clinton is she negative does she say to her self damn i cant make it no woman ever became president with that attitude you dont have a chance in hell but with a positive approach she can succeed. I actually like hearing positive people talk on cds and in these meetings its better then watching tv sitting on a rocking chair wasting your life away watching the people on tv succeed while most are still broke working until they are 72 i for 1 wont have to thank God because i dont listen to negative people because they will only keep you broke and thats a fact everyone. First of all we are not amway people need to understand this amway did not have 800 companies backing us up. How can you go into debt by joining this business you have to be a complete idiot i mean give me a break what moron will go broke in this buisness i mean i buy energy drinks and i will tell you most people like a product that has no sugar no carbs and what 8 calories i know plenty of people that are customers of mine that love it for 1 thing if a person is diabetic which is many in the world its an awesome product. Also keep drinking water like poland spring get educated on a real product like espring then come back to me and youll see the difference. I feel like this if a product is a bit more money so what if its really good and besides you talk of what a couple of things i dont have to buy my products to succeed in this business i can have many customers come in and buy things from the other 800 companies we are associated with. Negative people go no where in life just remember that especially disgruntled people who have no direction and dont want to try something that actually works. Keep your day job just remember you can get laid off fired and live life paycheck to paycheck their is no comparison ive been there dont that period. Id rather not work in a corporate pyramid in life where i will never make what my boss or the ceo make living life and staying average and broke. Some people have big dreams but do most actually work hard in this business to achieve them the answer is no people fail for many reasons they listen to negative people who influence them i think i need some bug spray to get rid of these negative pests. They dont do the work because if they did they would succeed most anyway they are lazy dont go to many meetings or buy cds i know because i have seen them id had a couple of them who were like this didnt do no work and wondered why they didnt get a check why not have people motivated and this is a good business i know i am making money so its good for me and the people i sponsored are doing quite well

quixtarisacult   US

4:21pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Is a Quixtar Cult Intervention in your future? Quixtar, soon to be Amway Global has basically imploded. Change is in the air. Where the folk in Ada Michigan take this biz in the next few years nobody really knows. Since Amway is on the verge of being completely rolled up in the UK, maybe the Amway corporate thinkers are devising a shape change for the biz to keep the FTC from also rolling them up the the States.

Brian   Phoenix

3:49pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Raymond, if more IBO's had your sensibility and understanding, Amway wouldn't have such a poor reputation.
You're one of the smart ones, who will attempt to be successful by selling the products. And that's the best way to be successful in any type of business.
I wish you nothing but the best.

Brian   Phoenix

12:53pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Shari, great comeback! Way to show all people considering Amway/Quixtar that you guys/gals have factual statistics and positive things to say about the business, instead of just insulting people who have a differing opinion than you.

Anonymous who said -- "The only true reason a person in Amway/Quixtar would end up in debt, is because they didn't do what they were mentored to do.
Duh."

That statement is absolutely FALSE! Why not read Eric Scheibeler's book "Merchants of Deception"? That man was a Founders Emerald in The Amway "business" and in his best year, he made 34K GROSS. He ended up claiming bankruptcy even though he did EVERYTHING his mentors said.

There is NO WAY, that 99.9% of IBO's fail and 66% drop out each year, because they don't do what they're told to do. In essence you're saying that for every 14,000 people only 1 does everything their upline tells them to do?

Since I must've had, at least, 10 people get on my case about my facts on this blog, you 10 people, or so, must be doing EVERYTHING your upline tells you to, therefore, there is 139,990 IBO's who aren't doing what they're told for you 10 that are. Sorry, I'm not buying that.

You can be told how to hit a 95MPH fastball, doesn't mean you can actually do it. You can be told how to run a 4.3, 40 yard dash. Doesn't mean you can actually do it.

For every ONE person that makes The Diamond level, 13,999 people will fall short. Facts are facts, and they are undisputible.

Brian   Phoenix

12:43pm on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

I'm so happy to see my voice is being heard and I'm being hated upon for my own beliefs. And since those beliefs are in conflict with people like "Brain from Phoenix hater" (if that name isn't negative I don't know is) I must be wrong or my thinking process is skewed.

Fact is you don't know anything about me mr. hater, therefore you can hate my opinions but to say you hate me as a person is downright ridiculous and uncalled for. I don't hate IBO's who try to make it in Quixtar/Amway and I wish them nothing but the best in their quest for financial stability.

My facts are NOT false. They can be found in any Quixtar plan book (or whatever they're called) it's in small print at the bottom of the pages.
Now if my facts are false, why don't you give me a link to prove me wrong? If you can't provide a link or website that contradicts my statistics than you're really doing nothing but blowing hot air.

You speak of my negativity, yet instead of posting something positive about the Quixtar/Amway "business" in your post, you do nothing but attack me. Amazing how all IBO's, when faced with a conflict attack the person and their dreams, goals, finances or way of thinking, instead of mentioning the, so called, many positives about the "business"

IBO's are, indeed, trained to speak, act and think a certain way. That's why most of them respond like you did to the criticism of the Amway/Quixtar "business".
As far as the "negative thinking" goes, just because somebody doesn't agree with your beliefs doesn't mean they're a "negative thinker" by any means.

I'm not here to try to change the opinions of IBO's who read this blog. My purpose here is to give accurate facts about the Quixtar/Amway "business" and the tactics used by IBO's to "recruit" people who may be on the fence and taking time to make a decision.

About me being "trained" to think a certain way, HAHA! I'll admit, I thought that was one of the funniest things I've ever heard somebody say.
Exactly how am I trained to think a certain way Mr. Hater? I don't listen to motivational tapes, pay hundreds of dollars to listen to speakers, nor do I attend weekly meetings, which have nothing to do with actually marketing Amway/Quixtar products, and everything to do with how to answer tough questions.

If my blogging is getting old and tiring, why waste time with a, hate laden, response to my thoughts and opinions on a "business" that I find both, ethically and morally questionable?

Maybe next time you respond to a "critic" who disagrees with your opinions, instead of just, bashing and hating on the person whom you disagree with, you can have a mature, educated response as to why my opinions are wrong.

Your response, only strengthens my case against IBO's involved in the Amway/Quixtar business. Like I've said many times on here, why would anyone want to be involved with people who hate everyone who has a differing opinion on Amway/Quixtar? You're response to me is in the majority of IBO's who just, simply get pissed off, because deep down, inside, they know I have many strong points and factual statistics that they can't argue, therefore they just call, people like me, "negative" "dream killer" "broke" or "employed" "slave" etc etc etc.

Why is it you all use the same words when trying to debate the Amway/Quixtar "business"? It's like none of you actually have an original thought. Tell me you're not programmed to think and act a certain way when faced with a conflict.

Of course If we don't believe Amway/Quixtar is the holy grail of financial success, there must be something wrong with the way we think. If you ask me, you're the one who's thinking is backwards. All IBO's who have bashed me on this blog have essentially said the same exact thing to me. All the assumptions you make of me, couldn't be farther from the truth. You have no idea what kind of person I am, and if you can tell what kind of life I lead, or the way I think because of my criticism of Amway/Quixtar, then you should be a psychic.

Don't question my dreams and goals, Mr. Hater. You have no idea what I've accomplished, and continue to accomplish in my life. You have no idea what my dreams and goals are, nor do you know whether I've already accomplished them or not.

Like I've said before, I'm simply here to lend my opinions about The Amway/Quixtar "business" to those who may be trying to make an educated decision on the matter, of whether to join or not. If you don't like what I have to say, just ignore me, especially if my facts are "false" as you say they are.

Thank you for your hate laden response, to me and naming your screen name afte me. I'm happy to see how obsessed you are with me, that you'd take the time to make a screen name strictly devoted to hating me for speaking my opinions.
Like I said before, your response only strengthens my case.

shari   sunny california

9:10am on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

who else here hates negative people?

Anonymous   Location unknown

9:09am on Friday, February 29th, 2008

The only true reason a person in Amway/Quixtar would end up in debt, is because they didn't do what they were mentored to do.
Duh.

Brian from Phoenix Hater...Oh wait, I sh   Location unknown

9:05am on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Brian from Phoenix, your "facts" and "statistics" are false and incorrect so stop trying to force others believe them. Have you performed experiments to classify your findings? No, so don't falsify something you know nothing about. Have you actually ever seen this business or tried it? You haven't seen it, until you have seen it. So please, for God's sake and for the other IBO's who are working so hard, stop blogging so much negativity. It's getting old. A true IBO will never believe the incorrect information you are constantly, every single day, writing in this silly little blog. What is your mission in life? To make every IBO or every person interested in becoming a future IBO, believe that Quixtar/Amway is horrible?? That's a very very poor dream Mr. Brian from Phoenix. My suggestion, go find a new dream and while you're at it, find a new blog because the normal people who visit this blog each day, are becoming aware of your seemingly negative attitude. One more thing, for every time that you say in your entries, that it is nothing more than "IBO and Sketched Talk", and you say us IBO's are only TRAINED to speak and act that way? Well think about how you were trained to act and think the way you do. Most likely you retracted that from your place of employment. Whether Quixtar or Amway is a poor business (which it isn't) a person in Quixtar or Amway has more values. And I'm not saying anyone with a Quixtar business is better than that of a person without a Quixtar business, but just take a second and compare the vaules, goals and mind sets. Think, before you speak.

Brian   Phoenix

7:38am on Friday, February 29th, 2008 

Ben, first of all, if you own a McDonalds you have a storefront and a location to sell your products to the open public. You are not granted that in Quixtar. You're pretty much a door to door salesman.
Secondly, only 3.4% of Quixtar products are actually sold to RETAIL customers. To compare that to a McDonald's franchise, that would be like a McDonald's owner consuming 96.6% of his own products. There is NO WAY any business owner could make money consuming 96.6% of his/her products. Then again, it's never been about the products in Amway/Quixtar. It's always about the "dream" and nothing to do with the business.

In those open meetings the speakers NEVER discuss how to market, the overpriced, products. They just show you a video and then talk about all the money you can make by recruiting other IBO's and teaching them how to "buy from yourself" or "change your buying habits"

You speak about fighting long lines and traffic. OK, first of all, I'm pretty sure you have to fill your car up with gasoline at one time or another. So you're thirsty as you're filling your car up. Are you telling me it's not a convenience to have a little store there where you can not only fill up your car with gasoline but you can grab something to eat or drink while you do so?

Also, I've never encountered long lines in a convenience store. Since people only shop there for a few items, at most, even if there is a line, it moves incredibly quick.
Not to mention, you'd have to go out to get things like milk, cheese, bread etc, anyway, so why not pick everything else up that you need while you're out?

Now if you want to talk about convenience, if I run out of toilet paper, or something that I need, is it more convenient for me to go 2 minutes down the street to a store and buy it immediately, or is it more convenient for me to place an order and wait 2-5 days to receive it?

There is a reason so many people don't succeed in the Amway/Quixtar "business" and it has much more to do with the 2 drawbacks you mentioned above.

Raymond Eiker   Portland, OR

11:07pm on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

I can't give Quixtar or Amway a full 5 star rating. Part of this is because I can understand and comprehend the difficulties of 'working' for a company like this.

Here's a little personal history:
I literally just started my 'own business' through Quixtar on Valentine's Day. However, I can't call it my own, even though I've been 'given' the title of IBO. It's almost the end of the month, and I technically have yet to make a sale.

I don't expect to make money off my online store. However, I do intend to use this opportunity to build a stronger work ethic, better self-discipline, and hopefully use whatever income I do make from this OPPORTUNITY to eventually start my own business.

The reason that this business is so 'simple and easy' to start is the simple FACT that the IBO's involved with Amway and Quixtar is there are virtually no cumulative overhead costs. The only money I'm paying is the initial $150 to become a part of the online market, and the $50 a month to pay for the web server space I would have to pay if I wanted my own personal site.

I'm currently 23, in my 2nd term at Portland Community College(because it's cheaper than a 4-year institution), and I technically consider myself unemployed. I spent the majority of the last 5 years, literally living out of a backpack under a bridge. Why? Not because I'm lazy, but because the right opportunities, the wisest opportunities, did not present themselves. I'm not religious, but I leave my life in God's hands.

The overall unemployment rate is insane BECAUSE of the market moving and advancing with technology. Jobs are becoming scarce because human bodies are being replaced with more efficient MACHINES! Personally, I don't want to be replaced my the machine, I want to be responsible for making sure that machine works and does its job appropriately.

In all honesty, I don't care about the numbers. If it's not successful, it's because I am a poor business 'owner'. I've spent the majority of my employment as an entry-level customer service representative. I've been told by friends and family that I could sell SALT-water to a FRESH-water fish. If that is true, why can't I do door-to-door sales, but I but I feel comfortable spending a few minutes talking to a potential customer to my site?

This posting certainly does not knock on anyone's beliefs, choice of employment, or journey in their own life. I'm not going to sit here and talk poorly about other posters' grammar or punctuation. I merely want to provide another, alternate way to look at the Quixtar/Amway company.

Good example. One of my fellow students has heard about Amway, and when I, up-front, mentioned the Amway name, it suddenly changed to me talking to a brick wall. I expect people to be prejudiced, wary, and skeptical of the Amway name. I told my Dad that I was about to start working for a company, and he asked if it was a MLM. I told him I didn't know, but I would find out.

As far as I can tell, despite what research and fact says, Quixtar/Amway is not MLM, or "Pyramid" schemed. Instead it is a market that is transferring from 'door-to-door' to online. I know for a FACT that the BBB will NOT endorse a business, nor will they allow their label to be placed on a business website, unless they pass every single little, tiny, miniscule hoop that can be thrown.

I have no points to argue in either direction. I agree with Brian, and I agree with the IBOs(just not the ignorant ones). Both have made good points as to why you should, and why you shouldn't. I don't need to regurgitate facts that have already been put in place. Instead, I will add new ones to the fire.

I hope that everyone reading this will not take it to heart, but do their own research!

Ray

Ben   Mpls

3:07pm on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

Just a comment on the review above. The two (2) criticisms, I would stipulate, are without merit.

First, not having unlimited advertising access with the Quixtar website and affiliate websites is not a negative. It is, in fact, no different than what any franchise company does with its independent owners. If I own my own McDonald's, I don't purchase my own commercials or advertise on my own means. The McDonald's corporation does that for me (because they have the best interest of EVERY franchise in mind and needs to control the quality of advertising). Quixtar acts as the "parent company" in the same way.

Second, depending upon how much stuff your downline purchases is, again, no different from any franchise model. If I own several franchises, my income depends upon the volume of products or services running through that business. As far as missing out on the "convenience" of real stores...are you kidding me?? Since when is standing in long lines and fighting traffic in a store convenient? The only "convenience" that could be referred to is the ability to buy at an impulse. Any consumer can be shown how to simply adjust the way they buy products so that purchasing online can become MORE convenient than ever going to a store.

If these are the two "secrets my upline doesn't want me to know" and the "serious drawbacks" to Quixtar, sign me up again!! :)

Brian   Phoenix

1:39pm on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

Brian from NY, it's almost impossible to read your incredibly, long, run on sentences and one paragraph.
You say there are no guarantees in Quixtar/Amway, yet in the same paragraph you say you're going Diamond in 2 years? Is that guaranteed?

You also mention how you buy TV's from Circuit City. Do you do that every month? You mention energy drinks. Do people really need to drink that stuff? Are those a necessity in everyday life?

You talk, of laziness and the obesity problem all over the world. And yes, especially here in The USA we have an incredible obesity problem because not only do people not exercise, they don't eat correctly either. With all of the fast food operations all over the country, people eat Big Mac's, Whoppers, pizza, etc etc etc, still, what does one have to do with the other?

You talked about your friend hating Donald Trump, a lot of people don't like Mr. Trump and it has nothing to do with his money, it has to do with his ethics.

I know that the tapes and speakers you listen to in Amway/Quixtar will have you believe everyone is jealous of people with money, but that's not true of everyone. You never did answer my question as to how much money you spend on books, taped, CD's, rallies, and mothly seminars.

Also, you never addressed the issue on the "residual income" you speak of. If you think just because you get to a certain level, you'll stay there forever, you're sorely mistaken.

Facts are facts; .4% (1 in 240) of IBO's will go Platinum
- .001% (1 in 14,000) will go Diamond
- average GROSS for "ACTIVE" IBO's is $115 a month
- 66% of IBO's were found to be active (which means they made a purchase or attended a meeting in the past year)
- The average income for all IBO's (including inactive) is $75 a month GROSS
- 66% of IBO's drop out each year.

Granted, not everybody will do the work it takes to be successful, but certainly the percentages are not in your favor, even if you do.
You mentioned the gym earlier. There are people who go to my gym and just walk around, talk on their cell phone, walk on the treadmill at 1MPH and then they don't see results and wonder why. Obviously because they didn't do the work it takes to succeed. You can't just go to a gym and expect to lose 60Lbs in a month just because you show up.
However, people who do the work necessary to get in shape or lose weight will do so, GUARANTEED. Even if somebody does EVERYTHING they're told to do in Amway, you said it yourself, there are NO GUARANTEES. There are many, many hard working people who did everything that they were told to succeed in Amway/Quixtar and they ended up in debt because of it.

If you truly own your own business, you'd be allowed to do what you wish with your products, sell them wherever you want. You can't do that in Amway/Quixtar. All you really are is a glorified salesperson, you're certainly not a business owner.

brian   ny

9:26am on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

call me when they change their name back to amway you guys know nothing that will never happen. Listen let me ask you something you want to keep your so called job which you are owned by basically what is wrong with doing this and making some extra cash on the side like 1000 a month in this business you dont have to get rich in this to be a little happier in life maybe that 1000 will pay off a bill so get real. The problem we face in life is most people get attracted to people who have no ambition in life this is how i feel i put things down on a vision board and so far almost everything has come true for me yes i did work for it but it has happened if you truly want something bad enough youll get it or basically be a quitter but then try getting back on your feet and doing something about it. Most people are quite frankly lazy thats why we have an obese problem all over the world. Thank God im fit although we all have problems but i know if i go to the gym 5 times a week i make the effort to do something about myself if i tend to go over 180lbs which i am. Bottom line is this business really did they say it was a guarantee nope did they say that it is an opportunity im not saying its for everyone honestly for me it is and i know where i am going straight up to residual income diamond level in 2 years because i am going to work for it and make it happen its all about your mind and doing what is necessary to make your goals a reality. The problem is people are jealous of others success lets face it i have a friend who hates donald trump please why because he is so rich and they are so jealous of peoples success id rather be someone positive and rich then broke and negative. If you use your mind in life you can get somewhere who invented electricity or invented the poland spring water bottle concept was it just luck please that they are successful. They tell you when your young your parents go to college get your masters and get a job get real a job in life will not get you anywhere because you will live on linear income for the rest of your life living paycheck to paycheck. I laugh at this 1 guy who said he is a cop who made 100k last year i said really thats gross income how much did you actually take home try 65k net maybe what kind of future is this money wise maybe he likes this career but to risk your life everyday and work 50 hours a week i guess for him its ok. Isnt it better to be in a business which will give you residual income i know my check comes every15th of the month all the time how much you put into it is what you will get out of it if your lazy then you will be a failure because you wont get to the next level. People are brainwashed into thinking that by working for an employer and getting araise will get you somewhee in life please thats funny actually. The problem is everyone looks at the average ibo why do you have to be average why think like this i dont look at the 97% of the people that fail in this business i look at the 3% which i will be in that does. I laugh at something else to they say we spend 400 a month buying products for myself hello wake up maybe if you had some knowledge youd know although some people really dont have a brain youll realize what products i buy toothpaste cereal tvs from circuit city books from barnes and noble oreo cookies everything the store has i get from them as far as energy drinks what energy drink example red bull which has so much calories and carbs in it has no carbs no sugar and 8 calories hello but getting back to the way we change our shopping. You can be a customer as well which i now have over 46 which purchase items from stores like barnes and noble circuit city just like they would if they went there themselves and it generates some money for me as well. The only scam in life is working for an employer for 40 years getting a pension and living life broke do you want to be one of those i know where im going straight to the top and nothing is going to stop me especially negative people in this world who dont have a clue to what life is about

Brian   Phoenix

9:00am on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

Ok, Brian, from NY, you keep saying I know nothing about the Quixtar/Amway business. How do you know? You have no clue as to what I know or don't know about the Quixtar/Amway business.
You also assume that I have an employer, what's to say I don't own my own business?

Your facts about 3% making it are false. Quixtar's own numbers are this .4% (1 in 240) will ever make the Platinum level. The Diamond numbers are .001% (1 in 14,000).
Not very good odds. Also, you mention going Ruby and making 150K net (which is false). Although it was a few years ago, a man by the name of Eric Scheibeler went Founders Emerald and in his BEST year he made only 34K net. You also mention residual income, and again that staement is misleading. Just because you reach a certain level doesn't mean you'll stay there. If you have people drop out underneath you (and 66% of IBO's drop out each year) and you don't maintain your volume, you don't see the same paycheck and you don't retain your Ruby, Platinum, Emerald or Diamond status just because you make it there one month.

You mentioned companies like Circuit City, Barnes & Nobles, Office Max etc. They don't "endorse" Amway. They allow Amway to sell their products on their website, all that means is more money for those companies.

You also mention $6 for a weekly meeting. What about the monthly meetings? The seminars? The rallies? Books and tapes? What does all of that cost you?
You mention products, like toothpaste. First of all, Glister toothpaste (at $5 a tube) isn't even recommended by the ADA. If I'm going to trust my teeth to a tootpaste, I want an ADA recommendation.
Also, The Amway products are extremely overpriced. Why would anyone want to pay $9.60 for a 10.5oz bottle of Amway shampoo when they can get a 25.4oz bottle of Suave for $5.49? Because they get a tiny percentage kickback? If you take a multi-vitamin you can get a 6 month supply of Centrum for $13.99 or a 1 month supply of Double X for $50.00. The meal replacement and protein bars are less quantity and twice the price of Protein bars and shakes made by EAS or Power Bar.

The biggest problem with The Amway business is the price of the products and the fact that a "prospect" is NEVER told to sell the products, they're told to sell the dream.

You're right, Amway isn't for everyone, in fact it's not for 99.9% of people. If this was truly a great business opportunity, there would be a much higher success rate, and while some people don't do what's required of them to succeed I doubt less than 1% of them are the only ones doing what it takes to succeed.
Read Eric Scheibeler's book "Merchants of Deception". I'm pretty sure he knows all about the business and he made it to a level which many, many distributors don't even come close to.

One other thing. Haven't you noticed a lot of Diamonds are leaving the "business" if there was such a thing as "residual income" in this "business" why wouldn't they just sit back and collect the checks? Why would they just up and leave the "business" and all of that money?

brian   nyc

5:54am on Thursday, February 28th, 2008 

i just have 1 more thing to say about this business and that is why would companies like dell,microsoft, ibm, barnes and noble, sports authority, models work with us if we were so bad i guess they are stupids according to you brian from phenoix. Listen in life not everyone makes it in whatever profession there in its all about your mind and how bad you want it and thats the facts if you want something to work bad enough it will and you will kepp working on it until you get it the problem is people quit in life because they cant handle it i never said everyone is successful i know many that did well and others that didnt. If this business is really that bad why would these companties spend millions of dollars hello people need to wake up. I see the checks every 15th which is real yes i do work for it but the difference is it can be residual income where a job in corporate america you can get laid off at any time fired at any time and under each person which is called a pyramid and if you dont see this well i dont know what to say to you then. Listen im not saying working in corporate america is bad all i am saying is for me i dont want to work 40-50 hours a week making enough money to just get by in life at least with this business i put in a good 15-20 hours a week wake up when i want not ordered to do anything and at the mercy of an employer as to when i can get off for a day. I can make my own vacations etccc. We are going to advertise in 2010 The funny thing is just because you or someone else didnt do well doesnt mean other cannot so it would be nice if people who didnt make it or are negative would just go back to their jobs in life and then if they are happy great if not well give us a try although really it is not for everyone to be honest. I think what happens is that you got involved at one point and didnt do anything to generate volume in your business got frusterated and gave up. Maybe you werent guided by the right people that would truly work with you I have someone that is bringing me to the next level I am just happy that i wont have to work until what the retirement age is now going to be 72 down the road with no social security by 2041. If there is a recession who gets hurt not me my business will still keep going while others will lose their jobs and be on the unemplyment line. Maybe you let your negative friends and familt take control of your life and tell you that you are dumb if you get involved with quixtar because you will get nowhere and never be wealthy resulting in your losing hope and your dreams for your future. You can't let negative people take away your dreams. They are not the ones who really are going to pay all your bills or support your family. Another question i have at your current job do they pay you enough to retire young and give you permanent expenetial income if so great but if not but i can answer this for you NO THEY DONT. I dont have to anymore deal with the stress of being in debt or if i have enough money to pay my bills each month or possibly being laid off from work thank God. However you do though unless you have something where you have your own business there is no comparison as to having your own business or living check by check in a job working for an employer please. I am making my future stress free with in a matter of what 2-3 more years where you will or someothers will have to deal with it for the rest of your life. Some people when they still work for a job will be working until they can retire which will be at least 70 or more while i will be flying around the world and enjoying every minute of life its all about what path you wish to go. Its ok though the world really does need broke people to keep on working and provide services for the wealthy. I will end with good luck and hope whatever you do in life you are happy with

brian   ny

7:19pm on Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 

remember no one says its a guarantee and i laugh when people say its amway really i have seen the checks these people get because i am friends with a few of them its true only 3% make it in this business but why cant you be 1 of them are people so negative they feel in their mind they cant. I just know working in a job for an employer will get you nowhere in life just average which is ok but i for 1 dont want to be average. Does everyone want to be a police officer in the world or firefighter everyone chooses different fields no oene puts a gun to your head. I will tell you for a mere $144.00 to start a business you cant go wrong and besides the meetings for me cost like what 6 dollars each time please. If anything else you do get to meet some new friends even if they dont make it. I do truly apologize for calling people losers and slaves but really in life you kind of are to a boss in a business unless of course you quit. I am not saying everyone makes money i know some who make very little i do ok but i do have a real job in life making good money i havent quit my job yet but when i go diamond which i will truly i have nothing to prove to anyone to each his own. As for why not everyone does this well simply put not everyone knows about it and sometimes certain things are not right for everyone. I know alot of people that give up in life which is called a quitter which i want no part of. I dont surround myself with negative people because they only bring you down in life try staying with positive people and see what happens. No one said life was easy and we make no guarantees in this business. I laugh when they say we are changing our name there are so many disgruntled people in the world which is a shame. I hope whatever you do brian from phenoix works for you this works for me whether you believe it or not im no diamond but getting to be a ruby which gives me a set income of at least 150k and over net which in my job now dont make and i work alot more hours. In this business i have 22 people sponsored as well as a dentist and doctor. Maybe they wont make it i dont know but i know i am because the truth is all you are really doing is changing the way you shop. Really big deal if you buy a different toothpaste if you are going to get paid for it. I buy the same things in the store anyway and get nothing in return its called a win win deal which alot of people no nothing about. If i buy a tv in circuit city in the store what do iget nada here i get points to my business which makes me money thats all i have to say in ebay what do you get when you get an item there back its called nothing you will see us 2010 jan 1 on tv they have said and besides we are funded by the ftc and people have tried to make us look bad for years. I laugh also at comments about amway because people actually did make money there not alot but some

brian   ny

6:59pm on Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 

well here is how i look at life brian from phoenix it is a fact you wont get anywhere by working for an employer and if you truly believe that i feel sorry for you. Yes maybe what i said was a bit out of line but its funny how people knock a business they truly know nothing about and to be honest i know i am doing well in this business and i truly dont care what you think. If you want to work for an employer the rest of your life go ahead but realize you wont ge anywhere because the true pyramid is when you work in a job for an employer because you will never make a ceo levels income. This business i dont need to answer lol to anyone i do apologize for calling people slaves or losers totally out of line but i will truly say this business works for the right people. Not everyone wants to work in a job for the rest of their life. I used to work in a job for a while but realized there is no life. It works if you do the work thats the facts. The people that dont do well in this business for 1 thing dont do everything they say or dont know how to talk to people. I am doing quite well and i find it funny that if you go to google or microsoft the negative pages outway quixtar by many. Some people didnt do well in this business and well thats them i know i will be a ruby very shortly and the money it has made me so far will turn to residual income that a job can never ever give you. I think owning any business for yourself is the way to go although you still have to work hard. The problem is there are alot more negative people in the world then positive. How is it amway when you have 800 companies that are associated with them like barnes and noble circuit city and offcie depot you guys need to get your facts straight. How is it that the ceo of these companies endorse us you keep saying amway but they didnt have these things back then. The only thing that is a scam is in your head lol

Brian   Phoenix

10:05am on Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 

Again, anyone on the fence about ths "business" I want you to read Brian's (From NY) comments. Look at how he calls people, slaves, losers, closed minded etc etc etc. I find it simply amazing how an IBO can't hold a debate without the name calling.
Every single IBO response is similar because it's been programmed into their minds. They speak of being open minded but it's obvious by their comments that they are anything but. I wonder if they even know what closed-minded means. Pretty obvious when you assume everyone not involved with Quixtar is a "slave", "loser" "closed-minded" "dream killer" "negative thinker" etc etc etc, is about as closed-minded as it gets.

Sorry to break it to you Brian (from NY) but to say you don't have someone to answer to in the "business" is false. You have an upline to answer to. If you truly own your own business, why not open a store and sell your Quixtar products? Why not sell some on EBAY? Why not talk to every owner of a gas station or corner store and try to get a display or a cooler? Oh yeah, that's right, because you can't.

The FTC has fined Amway numerous times over the years, and as far as the BBB goes, they have no say as to the legality of a business.
You're making a killing in Quixtar/Amway with 4 of your friends? Good for you. You'd think you'd be a happier person if that were true. If you were truly successful, you wouldn't have to call people names to prove your point. Sorry to say, but I, for one, certainly don't believe your false claims of income.

brian   nyc

10:11pm on Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 

its funny how people can badmouth a business they know nothing about. In life there are losers and winners this is a win win concept i have 4 friends that are making a killing in quixtar. You have to understand most people in life are either negative or close minded and would rather work as a slave in a job for the rest of their sorry life going nowhere. Your job in life working for an employer is a pyramid because lets face it you will never make what the ceo of a company makes so in life there is only one way to make money and that is be a business owner which i can happily say i am and doing quite well. I was tired of working for an employer being told what to do when to leave yelled at and going really no where making a average income with an average life until i was introduced to this business by a good friend and because of him my wife and i are in great shape financially that no job will ever give me the financial freedom i now have no more alarm clocks just work part time in this business and loving every minute of it seeing my closeminded friends working in a job 40-50 hours a week and myself working maybe 15 hours making 3 times as much so whoever says this business is no good needs to get their sorry head examined its called a win win concept its too bad most people just dont see it because their mind is clogged with negative energy and talk to people who are negative like them having no real life. Quixtar rules and changed my life and besides pyramids are illegal and we are funded by the federal trade commission and better business bureau. let me know how you do when you work lol for an employee for the next 50 years i will be the last one laughing to the bank

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:35am on Monday, February 25th, 2008

Like I commented earlier about being puppets ... if you are an IBO, look at some of your responses? How many of them are things you have heard from your upline? Ways you're "supposed" to handle "these" sort of issues.

Anonymous   Location unknown

6:11pm on Friday, February 22nd, 2008

Unfortunately, it's the "true believers" that keep companies like this going...people that are so knee deep into it and think that it really makes them somebody...the deeper question is...what exactly are you doing...selling "Stuff"? Is that what we're all so passoinate about here? You can't seriously be defending this on a moral level...you're selling people crap to earn some money...

Sean   Colorado

11:34am on Friday, February 22nd, 2008 

Hello fellow bloggers,

I was with this company when it was Amway way back up until it split off into Quixtar. You name it I did it with Amway. Before I start, don't knock these companies. They are legit companies and you can make money with them. I have lived and traveled with the people who do have the Amway/Quixtar lifestyle and it is as real as it gets but you have to understand what it took to get them where they are.

Pay attention to the original review by Steve Albright. These companies will work but it is true what Steve says. "Quixtar has severe limits on your freedom to advertise your website online." You must follow and follow the system down to the "T." I was a visionary way before Quixtar was alive and had my own ways to market Quixtar when it came out but you just can't do it. Their method not the system is out-dated. The system works but the methods by which they use cannot work effectively in this day and age.

From reading all these blogs, it seems that there are a lot of emotions here. I encourage you to go back to the original review and read it carefully. It paints a pretty clear picture of what to expect. I am a 10yr veteran of Amway retired. Not the kind of financially retired you think but I was there for over 10yrs hanging on to the hopes and dreams. Don't believe me, I'll even supply my personal email here and anyone is welcomed to email me for a real un-bias explanation of the business. I am not an IBO anymore and haven't been for almost 10yrs now so you don't have to worry about me trying to sign you up. I do however still have personal connections to those who are doing well in the business. xcvang@inbox.com

Brian   Phoenix

8:01am on Thursday, February 21st, 2008 

Another IBO- It's nice that you make $400 a month gross, but how much do you net after expenses, I.E tapes, CD's seminars, meetings, functions etc etc etc.
I've heard the college texts compared to Quixtar books, tapes, CD's etc and I have to laugh. I really do. There is NO comparison between the two.

While college books, do cost a lot of money, they deal with specifics that will help you become more educated in the field you wish to pursue. With Quixtar/Amway's books, CD's and tapes, they don't help you do anything. All they do, is give you motivation to do it. They don't speak of products or how to market them. All they do is give you a rags to riches story, or tell you how successful you can be.
If this "business" was so great, why would somebody need to be so motivated to get out and build it? Could it be that these big pins know, they could not retire on The Amway business itself? Could it be they know the statistics? I'm sure they do.

Also, college's will give aid to those less fortunate, which helps pay for tuition, books and such, or college's also give scholarships tp students who earn great grades, or excel in athletic activities. Does Quixtar give financial aid? Will Quixtar pay for books, tapes, and seminars?

I worked for a company, years ago, in which I had to travel to meetings. Not ONCE did I have to pay anything out of pocket. My flights were paid for, my room and board were paid for, my meals were paid for, and I also got paid for my time.
Now in Quixtar/Amway, you have to pay to go to these meetings? You have to pay for your own room and board? You have to pay for your meals? What kind of company is this?

Oh wait, I forgot, you own your own "business" and these are write offs. Well, I started my own business years ago, and I've never had to listen to, nor go to see a motivational speaker to succeed in my business. I can advertise on the radio, television, or newspaper. I can sell my products in the mall, online, in my own store etc.
Why? Because I own my own business.

If you really own, your own business in Quixtar then you should be able to set up a kiosk in a mall, you should be able to advertise your products in the newspaper, on the radio or on TV. You should be able to market your products on Ebay, in a corner store, or in a supermarket.

Facts are, as a "business owner" your supplier, certainly has an awful lot to say as to what you can do with it, and to me, that sounds an awful lot like a supervisor or boss.

Everyone speaks of Quixtar/Amway as if they have their own say, they make their own hours and they can do what they want. That couldn't be farther from the truth. You have to be at this meeting, this seminar, this rally, function, etc etc., at this time. They're not about to work around your schedule. So what if your sons birthday is on that day, if there's a meeting you have to be there.
Oh sure, you're not forced to be there, pressured? Yes. But forced? No. Of course everyone will tell you you're not a team player, and they'll look down upon you for not taking the "core" steps.
Sure, buying CD's, tapes, books and going to all of those meetings and such is "optional", but as a big pin once said, and I'll end it with this, "Tools are optional, but so is success".

Another IBO   Georgia

8:54pm on Wednesday, February 20th, 2008 

It's amazing all of the blogs you can find about quixtar. What most people fail to realize is, this is a business. A real simple one if you ask me. Everybody complains about the tapes/cds. But hardly anybody complains about the text books for college they must purchase in order to learn their subject of study. Nobody is forced to purchase anything in this business. Nobody guarantees you anything in this business. You can sell stuff, which my wife does with the cosmetics or you can find other people to join, which i do on occassion. Either way it goes, we're making money. No I'm not finacially free, but we do earn about $400/month which is more than enough to fund my business. I have downlines who earn more than I do, which is great for them. Point is, it is a business. My question to you is, with your current job or business you own, do you see yourself ever being finacially free doing it? I really don't see myself making hundreds of thousands or millions through quixtar, but I know the business works and the money I am recieving now is alot easier to earn than starting up a traditional business. Their products are great in my opinion and my little $400 check does wonders to help my wife and expand our business. It's a business people. Maybe you all should spend more time starting a business of your own instead of criticizing quixtar. You'll probably make some money. GOOD LUCK!!!

Michael   Seattle

8:35pm on Wednesday, February 20th, 2008 

I'm an accountant that recently returned to school full-time to pursue a degree in a different area. As a part-time job, I started working at a tax-preparing franchise here in Seattle. In less than a week, I got 6 people whose "business" was Quixtar and they were writing off their losses. I felt sorry for them, motivational purchases in the hundreds, one person traveled 60 miles twice a week to meetings, expenses to go to seminars and "sales meetings". ALL of them had no income from their business...not a penny. When I questioned them about any payments they received, they all said, they had not received any yet, but they will soon. The worst one had $3,500 in expenses and no income. One said that Quixtar was her full-time job, yet she hadn't earned a penny. Someone needs to put a stop to this company.

K. W.   Phx

7:39pm on Wednesday, February 20th, 2008 

You guys are all knocking on Quixtar, but tell you what, type "[your company's name] sucks" into google, see what you get = )

Brian   Phoenix

11:24am on Wednesday, February 20th, 2008 

Charlotte, I'm happy to hear you did your research on the matter before you joined, based solely on the hype that they presented to you in the meeting.
Most people just jump right in with both feet without testing the water first, and they soon regret it but it's too late by the time they realize it.

As for you "anonymous", again, I just want everyone to look at that persons comment and realize that this is the attitude of most, not all, IBO's. Their cocky, arrogant, better than all attitude, is what you'd have to deal with on a regular basis. Why would anyone want to subject themselves to that type of treatment?

Anonymous   Location unknown

8:45am on Wednesday, February 20th, 2008

You all have the mentality that you do, because you are slaves. Face it.

LP   Charlotte

11:19pm on Tuesday, February 19th, 2008

I just was introduced to Quixtar by a friend and went to a meeting yesterday. It sounded like a scam and to good to be true untill today when I had my followup and they showed me the product and went more into detail. I was thinking about the sales aspect and how this might actually work so they gave me reading material... lots of it. and on the first page of one of the pamplets it says... that in 1999 Amway created Quixtar... and in 2009 Quixtar will be rebranded to align with amway. So I started to research Quixtar, Amway and LTD another name I heard them use. And let me tell you I am so glad I did. I was about to go for it thinking that even if I made the $500 extra a month, that I could use it. I learned thru the FTC that avg. per month is only $115 for active members. And that 66% of IBO drop out within the ther first year. Taught me an important lesson.... ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS do your homework. Now, I am just worried about my friend, I guess all I can do is give her the materials I printed out, let her make her own decision, and hope shes not in to deep.