Quixtar Reviews

Brian   Phoenix

2:52pm on Tuesday, February 19th, 2008 

I agree with you John. I know it's a waste of time trying to reason with IBO's who are "under the influence" as I like to say. My main reason for posting here, is just in case anyone is on the fence about joining Quixtar/Amway, I want them to see the facts, not just what his/her prospective "recruiter" tells them is true.

I just want people to see both sides of the story, and I'll also agree with you on the fact that I've never met a successful IBO either.
A friend of mine, well he was a friend, he doesn't speak to me anymore because I don't believe in Quixtar/Amway, again that's his upline's doing, but anyway, he was the most successful IBO I've known, and he made about $600 a month GROSS. After all the expenses and taxes he probably made close to $200 a month net (and that doesn't include buying overpriced products for his "business")

john   california

9:01pm on Monday, February 18th, 2008 

Brian,

you're wasting your time trying to reason with unreasonable people. You're right, no one has thrown any numbers out on how much they make and how long they've been doing what they're doing. I just got home from a quixtar presentation and have decided to do a little research. I am a banker, I make 55k a year, I deal with the general masses and NO ONE can lie to me or convince me with cheesy lines on the success of what their doing. Why? because I get to see their goddamn accounts for crying out loud. I get people coming in to my desk and telling me I need to look in to this business b/c its off the hook and they come with lines like "what do we sell? we sell dreams" yada yada, and the whole time I'm looking at their accounts and I'm thinking "dude, you've been doing this for 2 years and you have 12 dollars in your checking account, 3 dollars in your savings account, your retirement plan is non-existant, you've had 13 overdrafts in the past 12 months and your average balance is $200. Facts are facts and they cant be ignored. I have yet to meet a successful quixtar ibo. based on their presentations you are led to believe that its easy, anyone can make tons of money, all you need is drive, passion and it will happen, and that is not the case. I believe you can make it to the top but you cant just be anyone, its like anything, you have to be at the right place, at the right time, you have to be savvy, educated, have an appealing image, give a goddam introduction that could convince people to buy rocks, ect ect.

Brian   Phoenix

11:46am on Friday, February 15th, 2008 

Anonymous. First of all, stop with the name calling and quit typing in caps. First of all, if you're going to call someone "stupid" at least know how to use the words "your, and you're" but obviously you don't.
Regardless, Quixtar is indeed, Amway. That's why withing 12-18 months Quixtar is going to change it's name, back, to Amway in North America. There will be no more Quixtar.
Case in point. Is Bill Britt a member of Quixtar? Do you think EVERYONE involved with Quixtar just joined in 1999 when it was launched? To call somebody "stupid" when you haven't the faintest idea of what you're talking about is quite ridiculous.

As far as the government catching on, the FTC has fined Amway numerous times since 1979. Just because something is not illegal doesn't mean it isn't a scheme.

Brian   Phoenix

8:12am on Friday, February 15th, 2008 

Hey Barry. First of all I'm sorry your son-in-law is caught up in Amway/Quixtar. I know it must be trying on his wife and family. Don't be surprised if his upline tells him to leave his wife if she can't support his goals and dreams. I've heard many stories about husbands and wives who were told, by their upline, "If your wife/husband, girlfriend/boyfriend can't support you, then you should find somebody who does."

I went to an open meeting once and that speaker spoke about Ray Crock (the owner of The McDonalds name) he said that Crock's first wife didn't support his dream (he was selling milkshake machines at the time, I believe) and he left her. His second wife supported him and now, today, she owns The McDonalds name. That's the type of thing these big pins will have you believe. They want to separate you from your friends and family and isolate you until you have nobody left to support you. Then they have you right where they want you, and they can take advantage of your weak mental state.
To answer your question about income levels. I;m not exactly sure what you mean by "first level IBO's"
The average "active" IBO makes $115 a month, before taxes and expenses (I.E the tapes, books, CD's Seminars, Rallies, meetings, and functions etc.) Also, Quixtar/Amway products are completely overpriced. One example Amway shampoo (Santique) is $9.60 for a 10.5oz bottle, where as a bottle of Sauve costs $5.49 for a 25.4oz bottle at Target.

The income level varies. In order to hit certain levels you have to reach a certain amount of performance volume each month, this is called PV. Each product has a certain amount of PV. In order to reach the first level you need to acquire 100PV. At this level you will receive 3% of your bonus volume (BV). Again, each product has a certain amount of BV in it. The average amount of BV needed to reach 100PV is about 250BV or $250 in products (that doesn't include any tapes, tools ,or meetings. It just includes Amway/Quixtar products) at 100PV you will get 3% of your BV. So at 250BV you will get a check for $7.50. Of course if you retail products(which is what you should do to be successful, but you're not taught to) you will get the difference between your cost and retail cost. Example if you sell a box of Double X vitamins at retail($75.00) you would get the differnce of $25 or so, because, last I knew an IBO's cost was around $50.

As your PV increase your BV increases and your percentage goes up. I'm not sure of the breakdown of the levels anymore. I just know the percentage, goes from 3% to 31% the 31% level is reached at 7500PV. In essence, someone would have to have a combination of 75 people doing 100PV ,every month, in order to reach that level. It also depends on how your downline is formed. If only one person is doing all of the volume, you check will be much less, tahn if you have 75 people doing all the volume.

I know this is running long, and it's probably kind of confusing (as is the whole Amway/Quixtar model itself) but that's somewhat of what the income breakdown is.
Just remember the average "ACTIVE" IBO makes $115 before taxes and expenses (The tools, tapes, CD's Seminars, fucntions, rallies, meetings) That's a whopping $2.69 an hour(again before taxes and expenses) if you work the 10 hours a week they say you can work to be successful. That 10 hours includes driving time, showing the plan, and going to meetings. Of course, many IBO's spend much more than only 10 hours doing such things.

As far as the "active" IBO. What that means is an IBO that's attended a meeting, or bought products over the past year. Only 2/3 (66%) of IBO's are found to be active, so if you add the "inactive" IBO's to the average IBO income a month it would be closer to $75 a month.

Sorry, this was so long, but I hope it helped.

Anonymous   Location unknown

7:35am on Friday, February 15th, 2008

QUIXTAR IS NOT AMWAY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! YOUR STUPID IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT! IF THE GOVERNMENT "CAUGHT ON" TO AMWAY'S SECRETS, AND THEN AMWAY JUST SIMPLY CHANGED THEIR NAME TO QUIXTAR...WOULDN'T THE GOVERNMENT BE ON TOP OF THEM? QUIXTAR WOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS IF IT WERE A SCAM. BRIAN, STOP LYING

Barry   Location unknown

4:15pm on Thursday, February 14th, 2008 

I have a son-in-law caught up in the Quixtar scam. He is exactly the type they want. He is completely brainwashed however my daughter is finally putting pressure on him to get out or risk loosing his family. He spends about $400 per month buying products from himself for himself. They can't afford that! I've been reading a lot about Quixtar but what I can't yet locate is actual financial info. What is the average income of firstline IBOs? Level by level? What is average monthly expense of IBOs? Purchases, meetings, travel, TOOLs?

Brian   Phoenix

12:15pm on Thursday, February 14th, 2008 

Cam, you're lying. You mean to tell me EVERY single person involved with Amway will say it's a good business model? You Guarantee it? Instead of exaggerating why not just say everyone you know that's been in it. That would probably be closer to the truth.
Amway, is NOT a good business model, and Amway is STILL around. It's not like Amway disappeared. Quixtar is Amway in North America. And people that were involved with Amway, years ago had all of their volume transfered to Quixtar.
Anyway, a good business model would insure that everyone was capable of making money. There is NO Guarantee that you will make money in Amway, even if you do everything you're told to do.
It's a LOUSY business model, and it's ethics are questionable as well.

And to Anonymous who says the internet is the future, that's just more tapespeak. Amway has an online website as well, and in 12-18 months Quixtar will be Amway again. Because Amway came under government scrutiny, and had such a poor reputation, in North America, they changed their name to Quixtar. Now since everyone knows Quixtar is Amway, with the same big pins, there's no reason to keep the name "Quixtar" any longer.

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:10am on Thursday, February 14th, 2008

Frank .. I can tell you this. It is a good business model. There are good and bad points to it (as with anything). I considered this a year or two back. I ultimately decided against it. The bottom line is you need to do your "due diligence" and the answers will come. I decided against it for the main reason of losing your identity. (this only applies to the group I was with since I have no reference to others) Eveything is scripted .... you say what you're told, act how they tell you, and become a puppet. I went to a "rally" before really researching the model. Everything everyone said to me was exactly what they were told to. You can't really tell who is genuine or not because it's scripted.

Also, they stress how "free" you become. That was an oxymoron for me. You MUST attend their stuff ... so instead of free, your obligations switch to their interests.

Anyway, that may not have been the most eloquent production since I was rushing to head to lunch, but that's my 2 cents

Anonymous   Location unknown

12:20pm on Wednesday, February 13th, 2008

Exactly...Amway sold products from a catalog, and Quixtar sells products online. The internet is where the future is. Not many years from now, EVERYTHING will be on the internet. How will you jump on board??

Cam   Location unknown

12:19pm on Wednesday, February 13th, 2008 

One more thing to add..so what if Quixtar IS Amway?? What was and is so completely terrible about Amway?? Amways was a HUGE, profitable business, the only reason it isn't around anymore, is because people grew tired of having to deal with the traditional business aspects, such as distributing products, handing out refund checks, and having to order others products for them. The only thing Quixtar did, was learn from the mistakes that were made when creating Amway and form a better, more improved business. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Amway. Ask anyone who was in it and I GUARANTEE you, they will tell you it was not a bad business model. Thank you.

Brian   Phoenix

11:49am on Wednesday, February 13th, 2008 

Frank, Quixtar IS Amway. Quixtar was just Amway's new incarnation, but instead of selling item out of a catalog, you sell them online. Also, it has been confirmed that The Quixtar name will be disbanded over the next 12-18 months and return to, the name, Amway, here in North America.

Quixtar IS North America's Amway.

Just keep doing your research on the matter. Listen to both positive and negative aspects of the "business". As long as you educate yourself on Quixtar/Amway, and not let anyone pressure you into making a snap judgment, I'm sure you'll make the best decision for you.

Cam   New York

10:30am on Wednesday, February 13th, 2008 

Frank, a little piece of advice from you, and you can take this or leave it. Do not come to a blg about Quixtar to get advice and/or facts. Before making your decision, go check out some CREDIBLE sources. Don't go to yahoo or google and type in 'Quixtar'...anybody can write anything on the internet. Check out good, credible websites. Credible websites usually have a phone number to contact someone. A blog, is not the place to go for FACTS. Blogs are nothing but people expressing their opinions. How will know who is right and who is wrong? As you can see below, you can listen to Brian from Phoenix and not join Quixtar and take a huge chance on not being part of something so great, or you can listen to Blair (also listed below) and be a part of something great. That choice is yours and only yours. But before you decide which way to go, check out facts, not opinions.

Frank   Iowa

7:33pm on Tuesday, February 12th, 2008

This is very disappointing to me. For the last two weeks, I have been talking to people about Quixtar and becoming an IBO, but now I have my doubts. Is all of this true of what I'm reading about Quixtar and its connection with Amway? I also saw the website and was disappointed with how it was set up. I want to hear from people.....should I invest my money and time into this?

Brian   Phoenix

3:18pm on Thursday, February 7th, 2008 

One other thing I'd like to address to "anonymous" who told me "I'm free and you're not so BACK OFF!"

I really hope people who are on the fence about Amway/Quixtar get to see that sort of egotistical, holier than thou, response. Like I said, you know absolutely nothing about me, but you ASSUME that you're better than me because you have more money than I do?

See people, this is the type of response you get from someone who is "successful" in the "business", because they (think), they have more money than you, they think they're superior to you. Now seriously, would you want to deal with people like that all the time? I know I wouldn't.

Brain   Phoenix

3:04pm on Thursday, February 7th, 2008 

WOW! Another person hiding behind the curtain of anonymity. For someone who's SO successful, you'd think you'd be a bit more cheery in your recants, than telling me to "BACK OFF!"
Also, you're financially free? Care to email some pay stubs of your amazing income check? What pin level are you at? What cut of the tools do you get? How much do you retail? Instead of just saying how successful you are, why not prove it? If you want me to back off, you'll answer my questions.

I also LOVE how you tell me I'm not free, LOL! I had to laugh at that, I really did. You're making quite a statement there. How do you know? You don't have any idea about me or my financial status, do you? No, you just make a generalization (that's taught on tapes) that since I disagree with the Amway/Quixtar business model, and it's ethics that I must have no money.
Once again, a lot of huff, and NO PROOF.

Melita, how can you possibly state using Double X vitamins you will NEVER experience depression or anxiety? You're telling a LIE, and you're really just spamming this blog with that ridiculous advertisement.

Double X Vitamins cost $60 for a 1 month supply, compared to Centrum at $13.99 for 6 months, and you feel, NO DIFFERENCE. Quit spamming this page with bogus claims and a desperate attempt to increase your sales.
I notice you said, you know someone who makes $7,000 a month but never did you state what you made. Hmmm. I wonder why that is? I also wonder why you feel the need to make a sales pitch on this blog in order to get more business? If that product is so great it should sell itself.

Melita   Windsor, On

2:33pm on Thursday, February 7th, 2008 

Hello Everyone, well I know somebody who was very succesfull in Europe, making $7000 per month, travelling and enjoying the life thanks to Quixtar (aka Amway in Europe) and I know it works! I believe that using Quixtar vitamins on daily bassis NOBODY will EVER experience anxiety nor depression. Believe me it worked for me too! So, get rid of all antidepressants and other chemicals and get some real stuff that WORKS!I am sick and tired of harmful chemicals (called Medications that nobody has benefit of, only you know whoo...). If you wanna order go to my web site and tell me that I'm right, try taking the DoubleX vitamins for just 2 weeks and tell me you did see the difference! Make your stress, bipolar, depression etc. dissapear and feel great! Any comments? send me an e-mail:melitaivana@gmail.com I'm an IBO.

Anonymous   Location unknown

12:26pm on Thursday, February 7th, 2008

Not that it is any of your business what so ever, but my husband and I are financially independent all thanks to the Quixtar business and our wonderful mentors. If it weren't for this business, I would still be waking up every morning at 5:30, and leaving my children to go to work. I am very passionate about our business because of what it has done for my family. Infact, my husband will leaving his job in less than two months. So, go ahead and try telling me again, that Quixtar doesn't work or it is a scam. It's not. I am free, and you are not. So BACK OFF!

Brian   Phoenix

11:46am on Thursday, February 7th, 2008 

Hey Blair, how do you know what I've tried? How do you know what I know or don't know about the "business". Did you know that Quixtar is changing it's name BACK to AMWAY because Quixtar has gotten such a bad reputation over the past few years? Probably not, otherwise, you wouldn't have mentioned it's connection to Amway.

You also say if it was mentioned in the beginning nobody would be in it, but then you go on to say that you have nothing to hide? That statement is contradictory. You ARE hiding the fact that is, indeed AMWAY!

You challenge me to ask up front questions? I have and I've gotten run around responses, half truths and other examples. I ask someone "So how much are you making from Quixtar" I get "Well it's not where I am it's where I'm going" or "this guy makes X amount of dollars and in 3 years I'll be financially free" or "I'm not at liberty to discuss my finances, or I'll get some sort of lie about their income, and then ask to see a check or pay stub and they refuse to show me.
I ask what pin level are you at, I ask what cut of the tools business can you expect. I ask all sorts of questions and have yet, to get a legitimate answer.

I have the typical attitude of someone who doesn't believe? You have the attitude of a typical IBO who knows NOTHING about me. Like you said "you don't know, what you don't know". More tapespeak.
Of course if I wasn't involved with Amway/Quixtar I have no idea about the business, and if I was involved and decided to go another way, then I'm a "quitter" or a "loser" or "too lazy to do the work" yada, yada, yada. So either way, I can't win.

I've listed facts upon facts in my posts, about average IBO incomes, average IBO drop outs each year, RETAIL sales in the "business" and so on and so forth. Yet, I keep getting the same answers, "You have no idea." "Go back to your job", "You're too lazy to do the work" etc etc.

Tell me Blair, what's your pin level? How much product do you retail? What's your cut of the tools (if any)? How much do you spend on tools, tapes, books, seminars, functions, rallies? How many times a week do you show the plan? How much mileage do you put on your car? What's your retirement date or "dream" date (whatever they're calling it these days)?

Answer those for me and then I'll have some more questions for you.

Blair   USA

9:04am on Thursday, February 7th, 2008 

people dont tell other people up front that the new quixtar business is amway, because it isn't! people have given amway a bad name and reputation so why would we tell people up front that quixtar is affiliated with amway? if that was mentioned in the beginning, nobody would be in this business. amway was not a bad company. amway was extremely profitable but people grew tired of the job/employee profile that it maintained. please don't down talk people that are affiliated with quixtar. you don't know what you don't know. if you haven't given it a chance, how can you talk so much about something you know nothing about?? we hide nothing about this business. ask anybody anything and you will get an answer up front. try it, i challenge you. you have the typical attitude of someone who doesn't believe, so therefore they down it and trash talk. you haven't seen this business until you have actually SEEN it. so don't say anything about it until then. thank you.

Brian   Phoenix

12:37pm on Wednesday, February 6th, 2008 

Joseph, I have, indeed addressed the issues at hand. My hang up with "grammar" is that if someone is trying to sell me any kind of "business opportunity" they should be educated. And MOST IBO's who join up are not. They don't have the education to make wise decisions.
The people prey on kids between the ages of 18-21 because they're not set in their ways and they're very influential.
As far as my mistake with the use of the word "their" on 2/8/08, I don't know how that could be possible since, where I'm from it's only 2/6/08, but I'm happy that you scanned all of my statements searching for one mistake to critique me on. I'm human, I make mistakes.

I'm happy that you're an "independent" business person. Sure you need drive to accomplish anything, but facts are facts. You can't tell me only 1 in 14,000 people have the desire to make The Diamond level in Amway. Yeah, you can't win the lotto unless you buy a ticket, but I'm not about to run out and spend thousands a year on tickets to try and win it.

Now as far as dealing with the issue at hand, why didn't you deal with any issue? Instead you mention, one mistake I made in my, numerous, posts. That has NOTHING to do with the issue at hand. But hell, if you wanna talk ab9out my incorrect use of the word "their" let's look at your post.

You spelled the word "grammer" incorrectly,"carefull" incorrectly, "Independant" incorrectly.

Regardless, while I may have pointed out people's grammatical errors, I also posted many, MANY facts on this Quixtar business and I have YET to receive any valid arguments to them.

You're right Joe, Quixtar is for some people (the people at the top who make all of the money) and it is not for some (the other 90% or so at the bottom).

Why is it when someone is "prospecting" they NEVER mention, right away it's Quixtar or Amway? Why so secretive? If this "business" is so great why not tell the "prospect" up front what it is, instead of using some made up company name, nobody's ever heard of?

I await your response, as I'm sure you'll come up with something better than my mistake in using the word "their" or buying a lottery ticket.

Joseph   Elgin

11:07am on Wednesday, February 6th, 2008 

Hey Brian in Phoenix,
You know that you keep bashing people for their mistakes in spelling or grammer instead of addressing the issue at hand 100%. In your own response dated 2/8/08 8:40a.m. you used or spelled their incorrectly! "like to see that their educated" the correct spelling or use is they're or they are. Be carefull don't throw stones in glass houses! I am an independant business person and I know that in every business there are flaws but the number 1 reason for failure is lack of drive, desire, or lack of effort. In every field there is someone who complains, or thinks of only the negative reasons as to why "it" can't be done. Yet there is always someone who rises to the top. All I know is that you can't win the lotto unless you buy a ticket! Maybe Quixtar is not for some people and maybe just maybe IT IS.

Brian   Phoenix

11:28am on Tuesday, February 5th, 2008 

Great comeback, anonymous!

Why not give us some insights instead of just ignoring the facts? Why hide behind anonymity?

Instead, you fold like a cheap suit. We have something called the 1st Amendment in this country, "freedom of speech" and I will continue to practice my right.

If you don't like it, don't respond.
I also love how you assume I have a "job" or I must be an "employee". You don't know anything about me so quit making assumptions you know nothing about.

I will continue to post my opinions here, but thanks for your concern.

Anonymous   Location unknown

8:26am on Tuesday, February 5th, 2008

Stop responding to this blog. Go back to your job. Goodbye Phoenix.

Brian   Phoenix

5:23pm on Monday, February 4th, 2008 

Let me recant some of my statements about Sir. man. I misread what he wrote about going from $150,000 a year to $300,000 a year. He said he incorporated what he learned from Quixtar into his other businesses and doubled his money.
So I was wrong on that account.
However, I still find it very hard to believe a college student, who owns 3 businesses, can't spell words like "Success" or "opportunity" correctly. Seems to me such and educated, "successful" business man would be able to spell such pedestrian type words. Especially, key words like "success" and "opportunity" since those are the 2 biggest words in selling the MLM marketing scheme that is Amway/Quixtar.

He also states that everyone he's ever known associated with Amway/Quixtar loves the company, and wants to go back. What does that mean? If they loved the company, as you say, why would they have left? I'm pretty sure if someone "loves" their career or job that they aren't leaving it unless a better opportunity comes along. Sounds like a lot of double talk to me Sir. Man.

The one, absolutely, preposterous thing Sir. man stated that made me laugh myself to tears was that he'd be in the top 3% of money makers in the country in a few years. Yeah, right. I'm sure you'll be hobnobbing with the Gates and the Trumps of the world in no time at all. I guess you'll also be making more than The Devos's as well.

In a nutshell, not only does the business model and it's ethics suck, it's salespersons suck too.
You need look no further than Sir. Man's post to see that.

Brian   Phoenix

5:11pm on Monday, February 4th, 2008

If any of you guys read Sir. Man's testimony you'll see exactly why I HATE AmQuix with a passion.
First of all, as with most IBO's he has to insult people by saying "You have to be an IDIOT not to make money with Quixtar" Well if that's the case, I guess 13,999 out of 14,000 people are idiots according to him.

Another thing, he claims to be a college student with a 3,000 SQ ft home (which really isn't that big) but he also claims to have a beach house, rental properties, 3 businesses and all the time in the world?
Sorry bub, that's not the way thigs work in the real world and any TRUE business owner KNOWS that, for you business to be successful (notice how I spelled SUCCESS Sir, man? It's not spelled "seccess") you have to invest TIME in it. A business does not run itself.

This guy also claims to have gone from $150,000 (with landscaping and booking Christian rock bands) to $300,000 in a year? All you people have to do is look up Dateline NBC's expose on Quixtar and you'll see how IBO's exaggerate their income claims to impress, unsuspecting people, and then, when questioned on it, either back down from the question or retract their statement.

Then what pisses me off even more is how a guy like Sir. Man says it's NOT just about money, but about God. What does one have to do with the other? These Quixtar/Amway cults LOVE to somehow incorporate God with materialistic things. Now I'm not a religious guy, nor do I pretend to be, but even I know that God does not encourage GREED.

People like Sir. Man make Amway/Quixtar sound so glamorous, but let me ask you readers a serious question, do you really think if this man made $300,000 a year (owning 3 businesses) he'd be on a webpage with only 27 posts (5 of which are mine)?

Also, while math and numbers are my strong suit, I'm pretty sure someone, with even basic math skills, could add up $1,000 a month for 12 months and get $12,000. So please, Sir. Man tell us how you went from making $150,000 a year, to $300,000 a year by making an extra $1,000 a month?

This is what the majority of Amway/Quixtar IBO's do. They lie, cheat, and try to con you into giving them money. They'll say whatever they can to get you involved. Now, unlike Sir. Man I won't call you an "idiot" if you can't see how bogus this guys claims are, but I will say you should read his comments again and see how outrageous his claims really are.
I have to admit, I got quite a chuckle from it.

And to Anonymous, that's the exact comeback I'd expect. Something like "I don't care what you say, because I believe this, and you're not changing my mind, even if you do make valid points."

Anonymous   Location unknown

10:45am on Monday, February 4th, 2008

Well, I still say that it is mere laziness and there is no belief and confidence. Believe what you want.

N4ME   Atlanta

10:49am on Sunday, February 3rd, 2008 

I tried quixtar a few years ago and i have to say that there is something not quite right about it. I went to a convention outside of Philly about 5 years ago and the people there act like zombies or religious nuts. A whole lot of clapping and singing and praising of all the people who got in 20-25 years ago and are the ones making all the money. This was a room full of people probably about 500 people and I felt like I was the only one with a mind of my own. Seemed too cult like. Are all these people making a lot of money...don't know because no one really tells you what they are making like its a big secret. They will only tell you to come to a meeting and see for yourself, but when you go it's the same old thing. SHOW ME THE MONEY. If it really works then show me the money and my cousin was the one who got me into it, but even he never told me what he was making. He told me he was going to quit his job within a year of that conference in 2003, but as far as i know he is still working at his job. and yes i try to avoid him because after almost 10years of him being in the business, i am really tired of hearing, or actually not really hearing, about it.

Brian   Phoenix

12:25pm on Friday, February 1st, 2008 

That's ok "anonymous". I'd expect nothing less than some tape speak from someone like yourself and that other person who went by ....., .....

I've heard all that spoken before too. Like I said, first of all just because someone decides that AmQuix isn't for them that doesn NOT make them a "faliure". That's typical cult type talk. Blame the victim. Make them feel worthless or fearful of what their life might be without AmQuix.
You IBO's believe you're better than anyone, not involved, with the business. Your arrogant attitudes grow tiresome and that's why people want nothing to do with you.

The average IBO makes $1,400 a year GROSS. To that, ...... person, let me know how you make out losing money for the next 40 years in AmQuix.

Back to "anonymous". First of all I have no idea how the "FTD" could consider anything a pyramid. What is the "FTD"?
I said The FTC - Federal Trade Commission ruled that the "Tape and Tool" business was, indeed a PYRAMID, not the Amway business itself. Do you know what a pyramid scheme is? If so, tell me how, the tapes and tool business is not a pyramid.

Are you telling me you're going to make more money that your upline by selling tapes and tools? No way, it CAN'T happen.
Either way, it really doesn't matter. Of course I guess only .01% of people in AmQuix aren't lazy, since that's the percentage of IBO's that will reach the Diamond level.
Just because someone doesn't agree with AmQuix's business model, or ethics, doesn't make them LAZY. You're told, point blank, you only have to work 10-15 hours a week to make millions. Seems to me that isn't busting your ass. So IBO's want money without working hard, but then turn around and say, "you're not working hard enough". Which is it?

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11:48am on Friday, February 1st, 2008 

To all negative EMPLOYEE'S---let me know how your job security works out in 40 years.

Anonymous   Location unknown

11:36am on Friday, February 1st, 2008 

Brian: Amway and Quixtar have been bad mouthed for years because lazy people who don't want to do the work and they just want to get rich quick have failed in this business and thats how Amway and Quixtar got a "bad reputation."
And the FTD COULD NOT have found this business to be a pyramid, because if that were true, the Quixtar/Amway business would not be around and growing as large as it is, because incase you didn't know....PYRAMIDS ARE ILLEGAL!

Brad   Phoenix

8:40am on Friday, February 1st, 2008 

Yes, you should make your decisions based on FACT, not opinion. Fact, you spelled the word "Decision" incorrectly. Again, if somebody is trying to sell me a "business opportunity" I'd at, the very least, like to see that their educated. As with most IBO's they spell words incorrectly, respond bitterly to criticism and make broad statements like "I know what the facts are" but never actually list them.

FACT- Average IBO makes $1,400 a year GROSS
FACT- 1 in 14,000 (.01%) IBO's will reach the Diamond level
FACT- 3.4% of Quixtar/Amways sales are to RETAIL customers

With anything in life you should research the matter and make an educated decision from your research. However, unlike what IBO's tell you, you should process both positive and negative facts about this "business"

IBO's tell you, "you can create a website with your own business name" "Quixtar is just our supplier" Yeah, right.

A business owner can decide where to sell his/her product, they are NOT told where and when they can advertise or sell their product buy their supplier. Try selling a case of XS on EBAY, try putting Nutralite Vitamins in a corner store and see how many rules you're violating according to your "supplier".

Ya know, drug dealers also have "suppliers" and I wouldn't want to be one of those either.

Kimberly   Dallas, TX

7:41pm on Thursday, January 31st, 2008 

Here is the deal guys-Life is what you make it. If you choose to listen to what everyone has to say and based my decesion on "opinion" rather than fact, in any situation, you have to ask yourself-"Where would I be in Life?" I think we all know the answer-no where. The bottom line is do things for yourself. If you are passionate about something-go for it! I could defend Quixtar with facts from the previous statements-no advertisment, we have national spokespeople-ads in Oprah's magazine-you can create your own website with YOUR business name---But, the truth of that matter is, I know what is fact and what is opinion and you should find out for yourself-period.

Brian   Phoenix

3:28pm on Thursday, January 31st, 2008 

A couple more things here. About Amway not being shut down by the FTC. This is simply because Amway makes false claims about their sales. In order to please the FTC Amway incorporated a 70% rule. This states that 70% of the Amway products must be sold to RETAIL CUSTOMERS. And although IBO's can fill out a form claiming that. It's kind of hard to believe since only 3.4% of Amway products are sold to RETAIL CUSTOMERS.

Why is that? If these products were SO great, as IBO's claim, or they were priced competitively, don't you think people would, indeed purchase these products?

The fact is, in order to get your 100PV (300PV for couples) a month you have to buy a LOT of things you don't normally buy.

How many people NEED energy drinks? How many people NEED vitamins? How many people NEED $9.60 generic shampoo?
Sure you need toilet paper, toothpaste, cleaning supllies etc etc etc, but how much of this stuff can you go through in a month? A bottle of Suave shampoo (at $1.04) lasts me almost a YEAR. 12 rolls of toilet paper lasts me around 6 months. How much detergent do I need to use?
Double X Vitamins cost around $60 (for a 1 month supply) as compared to Centrum Multi-Vitamins @ $13.99 for a 6 month supply. Over the course of 6 months you pay and extra $345 for vitamins?
Sure Nutralite Vitamins are better quality, but at that price they better be made of GOLD.

Fact is a lot of people buy a lot of things that they DON'T NEED just to make their PV and get their $10 bonus check.
I'll get a lot of responses like "Dream Killer" or I'm a "Broke Employee" I'm a "Failure" etc etc etc.
That type of thing just goes to show you how well these IBO's take criticism about Amway/Quixtar. And how they all think alike.
IBO stands for "INDEPENDENT BUSINESS OWNER". Let's break that down.

1st word- "Independent". O.K if you truly are, independent, you should have no limitations on how, or where you advertise your products. Also, you should not be told what to read, what to listen to, what to say, and what NOT to watch or read.

2nd part- "Business Owner". Exactly how is this a business? It's the same thing as selling Mary Kay Products or Tupper Ware. You are a glorified salesperson.
As a business owner you don't have to answer to anyone. You run your business how you see fit, and make your own decisions. As an IBO you have an UPLINE to check in with, and ok things with before you should proceed. That sounds more like an employee, with a boss, rather than a business owner to me.

Also, as an IBO you're told to go to seminars, meeting, rallies etc, all of which cost you losts of $$$$$ (probably around $2,000-$2,500 a year, and remember that the average IBO makes $1,400 a year) Working for a company, when you're told to attend "business meetings" (which is what Amway/Quixtar calls these seminars, rallies and meetings) the company you work for not only PAYS for your expenses, they PAY you for your time.
The money you spend on a weekend function in Amway/Quixtar (around $500 or so) does NOT include, food or room and board. So think of how much extra that costs. Probably around another $500.

Sure, some people (very few) people have gotten rich off of Quixtar/Amway, and there's no denying that but very few people have also gotten rich off of being a professional athlete, winning the lottery or being an entertainer. Just because these things have happened for some people does NOT guarantee that they'll happen for you. Possible? Yes. Probable? No.

Go ahead IBO's tell me how I'm a "negative thinker" and how I'm a "hater" a "loser" a "broke employee". Make your snap judgements and assumptions about people who don't agree with Amway/Quixtar's business model, insult them, belittle them, we know that's what you were taught to do when faced with adversity.

Brian   Phoenix

2:39pm on Thursday, January 31st, 2008 

Kelley from Austin TX, speaks like a true IBO of the "business". "Buy things from your own business and you get money back. Buy things from Walmart and are they going to give you a bonus check?" Blah Blah Blah.
Here are some price comparisons between Amway products and retail products at store like Walmart, Target etc

Suave Shampoo $1.04(20.4oz)- Amway Shampoo $9.60 (10.5oz)
Heinz Ketchup $2.49 - Smart Menu Ketchup $3.00
Power Bar protein bars $1.44ea- Trim Advantage Protein bars $2.38ea
EAS Protein shakes $9.99/4 (17oz 42g protein)
XS Protein shakes $35.95/12 (11.5oz 35g protein)
Tide Detergent .23 c/load - SA8 .63 c/load

People like Shelley don't tell you the whole story. Amway has fined numerous times over the years, anlso the FTC found the "tool business" to be a PYRAMID.

Fact is only 3.4% of Quixtar/Amway products are sold to CUSTOMERS (people who are not involved with Quixtar/Amway) While 96.6% are sold to IBO's
That's like owning a McDonald's and consuming 96.6% of your own inventory to make money. Any business owner knows that your CUSTOMERS are what makes you money and consuming your own products won't

Sure, you get a "bonus check" but when your overpaying for products by 150-200% and getting $50 back, you're not making anything, in fact you're LOSING money.

The average IBO makes $1,400 a year GROSS. After books, tapes, seminars, rallies, weekly meetings, travel time, miles and gas (plus buying overpriced products from your own "business") how much do you think the average IBO NETS every year?

People talk about all the millionaires in Quixtar/Amway. Let's just say 1 person makes $1,000,000 even. To get down to the average of $1,400 that means that for that 1 person that 714 people would make 0. Of course Quixtar's number of $1,400 only includes ACTIVE IBO's otherwise the number $1,400 would be much lower. And since 66% of IBO's drop out each year ,that means if someone sponsored 100 people they'd have to sponsor 66 more people the following year just to keep up.

When someone shows you "the plan" or "the business" it's pretty amazing that these IBO's NEVER sell a "prospect" "the business" or the products, instead they sell "The dream".

Quixtar/Amway is a dead end for more than 99.9% of IBO's who get involved. Quixtar's own facts state that only 1: 14,000 or .01% will ever make the diamond level.

Let me just say, you can, indeed reach your goals and achievements, but you have a much better chance by working hard in COLLEGE and getting a good education, rather than swindling people out of money with half truths and exaggerated statements.

Quixtar says- "People who don't do the work will fail" The ironic thing about that ismost people who join Quixtar are looking to get rich by only working "10 to 15 hours a week" instead of spending 4 or 5 years in college getting a TRUE education. This is why IBO's target people between the ages of 18-21, since most of these kids are naive and looking for direction in their lives.

Quixtar/Amway is GARBAGE! There is a reason Amway has been bad mouthed for generations and it has nothing to do with envy or jealousy of the 1 in 15,000 that become successful in MLM.

Kelley   Austin, TX

3:34pm on Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 

Ya know people, Quixtar is a very INEXPENSIVE way to try out your own business. All it costs nowadays is $175.00 to start! If you don't like it, all you've lost is $175.00. How is that a scam? And I PERSONALLY know people who have quit their jobs from being successful in Quixtar. It DOES work. And YES. Other people have to buy products for you to be really successful. What is wrong with that? Hello? You would be buying toilet tissue, hair care---everything you need from your house from the grocery store or Walmart. Why not make money off of what you buy for your house. Sorry folks. Quixtar is NOT a scam. The Amway Corp has been around for 50 years now. Don't you think that if it were a scam the government would've shut them down. They were investigated and the government could find NOTHING illegal! Do the research yourself if you don't believe me. It sure beats working for someone else and being at their mercy! Take a chance and dream big! You CAN make LOTS of LEGAL money off of Quixtar! Do your research!

jeff   ohio

1:03pm on Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 

Yes,there is a chance that it could work for you but, it don't work for everybody. Plus, the price of their products were way over priced and the owners of Quixtar take almost all the profit off the top before you the (little guy) get it. That sucks, a lot of hard work and little to show. I was an Ibo and it wasn't working for me so i start another business. It's nonprofit so all the money come back to business and then to you the(little guy)no owner so you get more money(not so little now).and it is blowing the roof off right now and i'm always looking to tell some one what i have done.That way they cant do the samething. My friends laugh but its true i dont work i have fun doing what i do so i dont look at it as work its everyday life. Getting paid for just being alive. Opps, I just gave some of my business away.

Anonymous   Location unknown

12:34pm on Monday, January 28th, 2008 

Yes that is true about the dateline ordeal, but didn't you also see and hear on the news that dateline RETRACTED any negative story they ever publicized about Quixtar? People don't know what they don't know :)

Dave   reynolds

10:43pm on Saturday, January 26th, 2008 

Quixtar is a joke. Just another scam. didnt you fools see the dateline hidden camera investigation? The dateline hidden camera investigation of this Quixtar Scam shows a whole stadium of these morons looking like they are in a trance, shouting something like "Go,Go Freedom.. Flush that stinking job!

The truth is that not even one percent of those idiots will ever become financially independent. What kind of legitimate business would waste peoples time and money to go to some cultish convention where they tug at your heart strings with the tease of a better life.

I cant believe these morons fall for the Quixtar Scam :)

Sir. Man   East Tn

7:00pm on Friday, January 25th, 2008 

Quixtar is the real deal. i have worked with them for a year now and have been making money every month. Everything is opional within the company, you are not forced to do anything. Although, it is a business system and mentorship program that is ranked within the top 10 companies in amaerica, In my advice, listen to them. Within my branch there is over 5000+ young people making 3-4000$ per month.
yes, the same 3 families that created Amway( but it has been reworked, and everyone i have ever known that was associated, loved the comapany and wants to go back), owns the orlando magic, and several other business ventures, `created Quixtar.. I chose to do strictly sales and now make an extra $1000 per month just in customers and buy nothing myself. But have recently with all of my seccess, my friends are asking to join me and teach them as i have 2 other businesses outside of quixtar in landscaping and booking Christian bands all over the country. I was making 150,000 per before quixtar and with my friends i will be in the top 3% of money makers in the country within a few years and im very excited to help them out in making extra moeny, so they wont be stuck in huge debt at graduation day like 75% of the US. YES! It is real! YES! it works! Yes! you can do it too. if you listen and not be a hard headed idiot and try to do things off your own ideas of business. i took the same ideas and system of business and applied it to my other businesses and went from 150,000 per year to almost 300,000 in this last year. As a part time venture you will have no better oppertunity out there.. you will have to be a complete idiot to not make moeny in quixtar. your start up is completely refundable and teach you how to make it back your first month.

How many young old college students do you know that owns a 3000 sq ft house, 3 rental propeties, 2 beach homes, 3 businesses, and has all the time and money in the world to do with as they please??? And Before you say it, it isnt all about money get that first and formost, God Created us and He is undiscrabable in how he has worked and blessed my life. And there are 25 guys just like me in our team, that have business all over the US and will be retiring before they graduate college. GEt IT??

As i tell the young people in my youth group.
"Why live ordinary when His plan is extordinary?" -Me

T.L.T.   USA

11:04am on Wednesday, January 23rd, 2008 

If your looking for a bit of advice about Quixtar, I'll give you my opinion. Quixtar definetly is the key to financial freedom. I mean if you think about it, you already have to work for 40 years so why not try this on the side and just maybe if you decide to do the work and keep up with it, you'll be able to retire 35 years early. You have nothing to lose. There is so much more to life than working your life away until your 60 or 65 years old and then retiring and not having enough money or enough energy to do all of the things that you've probably always wanted to do. Life is not a rehersal. There are no do-overs. So why not just try something different along the way? The only reason your trying to back yourself out of becoming a part of the Quixtar organization is because of what you are conditioned to think. People everywhere are born into failure. People don't know, what they don't know. Quixtar has helped me and my family in a way that we could never say enough thank you's or repay our mentors in any kind of way. What you chose to do with your 24 hours in a day, is completely your decision. Why let someone else ( your boss ) dictate who you are, what you do, and why let someone else decide how much you are worth? Nobody in this world gets paid at their job what they are worth. In Quixtar, you get paid for as much work as what you do, so if you do nothing, you will get paid nothing. Man only has one lifetime, so why wait until your life is over and it is too late to say, "if only I had tried something different."

Scott C   Tacoma, WA

1:49am on Tuesday, January 22nd, 2008 

Im getting sucked into this Quixtar thing. I mean is it really possible to be successful with it? My cousin is speaking of it as it being the key to financial freedom retiring in 5 years. I mean come on... and my dumbass is going to my first quixtar meeting tommorrow. Please someone out there back me out.

scam guy   spokane, wa

8:22pm on Monday, January 21st, 2008 

You are a fool if you think your going to get rich by joining quixtar these days. maybe if you were in when it first started.

Steve   New York

2:38pm on Sunday, January 13th, 2008 

The challenge is that like most business operations, people will fail because of their lack of work ethic. I own a substantial daytime company. If people can't success in a business like Quixtar, they should give up on the idea of ever owning and operating a traditional business. The expenses to run a successful Quixtar business are nominal compared to a traditional business. The structure of my daytime corporation is a pyramid - I am at the top. I started the operation, I built it. I think it's great to be at the top. I wish the Quixtar operation was a pyramid because then I could simply buy in and be at the top. So, everyone starts at zero and has to work in order to succeed. Can't much fairer than that. If you're not willing to work your tail off, deal with some frustrations and totally commit to making your business work, then don't ever start your own business. For that matter, don't start anything (musical instrument, sport, etc.) because you will not make it without long hard work. The Quixtar model provides a phenomenal avenue for success especially when considering that you can be mentored by other successful IBO's.

Michaella   Anna, IL

11:42am on Thursday, January 10th, 2008 

My family and I became IBO's through Quixtar a couple of years ago. It's been an amazing experience. My mom gets to retire several years early from her state job. She's achieved success through hard work and dedication...while teaching me to do the same. People that believe this is a scam are missing out on a great opportunity. This business is creating a new social security system for me....because social security won't be there for me when I'm older.

Lisa   Tucson, AZ

3:06pm on Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 

Quixtar has been an amazing ride for us. You can make your business what you want it to be, and we've made our positive. The people we have come in contact with has been encouraging, uplifting, and supportive. This is nothing like Amway, and its not a pyrmid system like most jobs are. In my last job I could never make as much as my boss or even pass him in pay like you can in Quixtar. Your leaders above you encourage you to do what you can, even if it means passing them on to a higher level. If your positive and have faith in yourself this is a great opportunity for you....

ARAT   Maryland

10:02am on Monday, January 7th, 2008 

Quixtar is a wonderful business with excellent mentors and friends. This business is exactly what you make of it and nothing more. If you have a negative attitude about it, then the outcome will indefinetly be negative. Everything in life is what you make of it. If your looking for something great to come out of this business, then why not dive into it with an open, positive, and believing mind? How can you achieve something so great if you don't even believe in it? It's nothing but insecurity. And as for the person who said about going to college and getting a legitimate job.....you let me know how it works out.... working for 40 years and then relying on social security (which won't even exist in 40 years from now) and trying to live on half of the income you can't afford to live on in the first place.

Cynthia   Santa Fe, New Mexico

4:33pm on Friday, January 4th, 2008 

I am always looking to "test reality" and find out what works for me in terms of my job and my future. Not everything is as it appears and not everything is a scam. As a new IBO, I face the fact that I don't always know everything when situations or questions about scams arise. I appreciate when people come up to me and say "That's a scam! Here's what I found!" I like looking up new information and finding out exactly what is being said and from whom. I like to research what other experts say about Quixtar and their business practices; for example, Success Magazine, which gave a positive report about Quixtar and their business. I like to remind people about the positive reports about Quixtar and encourage them to look at all the information before making final decisions. What I do know is that so far this business has challenged my ability to take responsibility for my own life and for my future and not just point a finger and say "he/she said so". I have found many entrepreneurs respect me when I am willing to look at other opinions and perspectives. I encourage anyone to look carefully at the Quixtar company and to consider all the information thoughtfully and carefully, without being swayed by emotion or "group thinking".

Michelle   Florida

12:16pm on Wednesday, January 2nd, 2008 

Who said Quixtar was a short cut to success? This is a real opportunity. How much success you gain from it depends on how hard you work.

Locke   California

6:59pm on Sunday, December 30th, 2007 

How about going to college and getting a legitimate job. There are no shortcuts to success people.

Sharon   New Middletown, OH

11:12am on Wednesday, December 26th, 2007 

You have only to look at the awesome leaders in this business to know that you didn't finish your research. Also, the "stuff" that you talk about is product that people are buying anyway. And by the way, retail stores don't pay you to buy from them. As a Quixtar IBO, you can benefit from wholesale prices or go to the next level and help others to do the same as you. Please check it out further. So far, you have received 2 good reviews to one person who was poorly informed by their sponsor about how to completely close out of their account. Loving the opportunity that Quixtar has given me and my family!

David   Santa Monica, CA

5:59pm on Thursday, December 20th, 2007 

Quixtar the Amway of Old...
I closed my account with Quixtar a year ago and I'll still get orders from time to time that I never asked for. What really annoys me is that my debit card gets charged and once that even caused a bounced check, which they obviously wont reimburse me for.

Anonymous   Kirkland, WA

5:58pm on Thursday, December 20th, 2007 

Quixtar is an amazing place to get great mentors and great leadership to help you through not only your business but life. A place that offers great association and compassion for wanting to win financially. The "never give up" mentality is number one and this helps find those who want more out of life and who will fight for it. A great way to use your time since you can either to it part time of full time depending on your situation.