Thomas Kish

Beth   Dallas

3:50pm on Friday, January 29th, 2010 

I'm not sure I understand the negative comments.I spoke with BJ on the phone and asked about the home study course VS. a coach. He let me know that the home study course is a DIY course and the coach basically does everything for you. Since I'm new to business credit, I opted to take my chances with a coach. I am SO GLAD I DID! My coach was very nice and helped through the entire process. I would never have all the credit and money I have now if it weren't for this program. Sure, some of it was common sense, but most of it I had no idea about and now 3 months later, my profits are growing, I'm investing the credit to make more money and my personal financial situation looks better than ever. I truly credit it to Thomas Kish's program.

Thank you Thomas!

Tanner   Las Vegas

1:59pm on Tuesday, October 27th, 2009 

Tom Kish has been scamming people and banks for years. I am in Vegas and contacted them to get the contact list, because I know their "system" is BS but contacts are good to have. I offered to drop by their office and pick it up, rather than pay $20 for shipping across town. They have a virtual office, or should I say Ghost Office. CS said they don't keep product there, but they don't keep anything there except an address to keep a safe, Nevada LLC.
If you want to learn how to keep assets safe while scamming people and banks, you should send Tom an email and ask him to make a new system covering that.

The real system is no secret.
Three trade lines for 45 days, pay on time.
Then three higher limit trade lines for 45 days, pay on time.
Then Home Depot in house card for 30 days, pay on time.
Then convert to HD Mastercard, pay on time.
Then apply for micro loan.
Big Secret, huh?

Tod S.   Las Vegas

12:45pm on Monday, August 31st, 2009 

I had read all comments and I must say that I was taken for 2k plus after working with BJ (sales) who who not answer any of my questions and would default all questions to my credit coach. I found it odd that I would pay 2k plus for a PDF document that tells you what to say to banks when seeking a loan as well as an email of bank phone numbers and names of who to call which were out dated. I paid 2k for this! I also spoke to Tom Kish and he was very rude to me on the phone when I asked for my refund within the 30 day time frame. I have tried to reach him and there are only a few people you can reach direct. When I spoke to Tom Kish I managed to get his girlfriends cell phone through a little investigating and funny enough he picked up the phone. The customer service is terrible and I am still trying to collect my money to day.

Tod S.

R. Ball   Location unknown

6:03pm on Thursday, July 16th, 2009 

This company is a complete ripoff! Do not give them your credit card number. They will continue to bill you for services!

Joe S.   New Jersey

11:34am on Monday, July 13th, 2009 

I must say the course gave me the idea to apply for unsecured business lines of credit but it doesn't really give you anything else. If you are reading this than you already know about unsecured business lines so I would say don't waste your money. This course gives you nothing but common sense. It talks about filling out the applications the correct way but doesn't tell you what that is. It doesn't go into really any detail at all. I kept waiting for the track that would release all the secrets but it isn't there. He just says wait for paper applications, which I never got, and apply for credit. That is it. Is this a secret? I don't know...maybe. I did apply for a line through BOA online, which he says is a no no but I wasn't getting paper apps so I had no choice, and I got accepted for 10K cash limit. He also says he'll show you the secret to getting the money out, which is cash advances. I mean come on this is common sense. Who doesn't know you can take out a cash advance? I thought there was a more innovative way...nope.

Carmine   New York State

7:52am on Thursday, June 18th, 2009 

I purchased the system about 2 years ago. I was ill and could not start working on it until recently. I tried calling the banks to get a paper application, and not one bank would send it. I called the support line and was told they couldn't find a record of my purchase. If there is an updated list of lenders I would appreciate it if someone could give it to me so I can try again. I was thinking of signing up for the coaching so if anyone has actually gotten credit using the system or the coaching please let me know. So far all the people writing here have said that they anticipate getting the credit, but no one has actually said the got the credit, and how much credit they got.

Gwen   Chicago

2:19pm on Monday, June 1st, 2009 

I purchased the program approximately a year ago. I think the information is relevant, but I gave it a Fair rating because, it does not go into what I call the "nitty Gritty" about how to fill out the applications. What is the criteria that is being used for the LOC? What are the Lenders looking for? Why are the details so secretive? How do you overcome, inquiries on your credit that will be used against you? When I asked one lender to raise my limit after getting the card, they stated that they could not at that time? I wish the program was a little more specific. Also, I tried to get an updated lender contact list, but was unsuccessful. I think the material is good, but its just above telling us some things and not revealing others. I wish I have some assistance on completing the application. Also, what kind of businesses will be successful in this program? Are their some more lucrative than others? Do Lenders prefer one over the other? Thanks.

Don   Michigan

7:52pm on Sunday, May 24th, 2009 

I also have a 2yr old version of the Ultimate. I had little success due to my previous bankruptcy. It was not easy to find a partner, then when I did, he learned the system and they dissolved the partnership. Where do I find an up to date lenders list?

Terry   California

1:45pm on Monday, May 11th, 2009 

The information provided is nothing you can't do yourself wit a little investigation. Kish still says in his program to use someone elses credit if you don't have good credit to establish a healthy record. That is NOT what business ethics dictates and that also makes someone personally liable for the debt. The program is dicey to say the least. Ray Reynolds isn't much better. Be carefull what you do. investigate before you leap. And if you do attempt the program, make sure you keep accurate records.

Ryan Klein   Anaheim, CA

6:25pm on Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 

I don't know why there was such a bad review from the previous poster, but my order was for their mentoring program for $1,395 on March 23rd...I had a great experience with their sales manager B.J. and I've already have been working with my coach to get me the business lines of credit that I'm looking for. I haven't received any lines yet, but my coach and I are very optimistic that he will get me around $200k in the 1st 3-4 months. Again, I don't know why there was such a nasty review from the previous poster, but my experience was smooth, quick, and everybody was extremely helpful...The second I hear about the 2010 seminar in Las Vegas, I'll definitely make sure to purchase our tickets before they sell out again.

Thanks Tom & B.J.!!!

Ryan

hardworker   Ohio

9:29am on Saturday, March 28th, 2009 

The customer service is horrible. I tried to obtain a refund. It specifically states 30 day refund and I was chastised for requesting one.

Anonymous   Location unknown

5:22pm on Thursday, March 19th, 2009

Does anyone have a fax or email contact for Kish???

Erick C   OH

5:34pm on Tuesday, March 17th, 2009

One more thing; I googled Thomas Kish and his phone number to his office is listed so you can call yourself and judge for yourself,........just ask them to explain to you the difference between the home study course and the seminar and see how they treat you; i pray that this was a isolated experience and they will answer your question but that was my experience and it left a bad taste in my mouth because there was no call for them to treat me like that.

Erick C.   OH

5:31pm on Tuesday, March 17th, 2009 

I gave a rating of dreadful for the customer service not the program. I haven't got the program but I called the office to conduct my due diligence becuase I did not want to purchase the home study course without knowing their rules for how to return the course. A sales rep answered the phone and I asked him question about the difference between their ultimate program for $567 and a lesser program for $97; then I asked him if it was true that if I were to open any of the sealed cd's that the refund is void and he said yes; moreover he said that all the info on the cd was in the typed material. I then asked him what was the point of the cd and he said something to the point of how it supplements the written material or something liek that.
Now this is where everything goes wrong. I wanted to know what came with the seminar that didn't come with the ultimate program. He said that the seminar was over. I didn't get why he gave that answer so I asked the question again, he stated that he didn't get why I wasking that question since the seminar was over. I explained to him that i was doing my reasearch so that I can make an informed decision; He told me that it was irrelevant as to how the home study course differed from the seminar!!
I was shocked, I told him that I never ever had a sales rep tell me that my questions was irrelevant then he said to hold on,.......it gets worse!!!
In the next few moments a person picked up the phone and he said: "this is thomas Kish" I was shocked and happy! Mr Kish told me that the seminar was over and that he suggest that I buy his home study program; moreover, he told me that there would not be another seminar this year. I told him that I understood, then I asked him the same question: what's the difference between the the home study course and the seminar. He seem irritated at the question, he responded: it's a seminar! I told him that i never been to a seminar so i don't know what that means so i asked again and he gave the same response. I turned to my girl friend and said: he doesn't want to answer my question and I hung up the phone.

Now if Mr Kish can not answer a easy question like telling me the difference between one product and another then why in god's green earth would I pay $4k+ to hear him speak?
All he had to do is either answer my question or send me materials to read or both but he and his sales rep choose to treat me rudely and for what? This happen today 3/17/09 around 2:30p. I'm still shock about what happened. I used to work for call center as a tech support, so people called all the time wanting to know things and it was my job to explain all manner of differences and if I had ever told one of our customers: your questions is irrelevant I would had been fired!!

K Boone   Location unknown

9:30am on Wednesday, January 28th, 2009 

Matthew from California. How long ago did you buy your system and did you get good results? I just purchased it and all I have found is great reviews. I will get some info on a current list request if you still need it.

Matthew   California

4:42pm on Monday, January 19th, 2009 

I have an old & seemingly outdated list. I purchased his program a LONG time ago. In fact, the CD's i have are audio only and the list is actually on paper (contact info is in the accompanying manual / workbook). I assume now that this program MUST have newer, updated info PLUS, I assume that the lender lists, etc.. is all on the CD's.. is that a correct assumption? Does anyone know how I could JUST get the updated list of lenders to keep mine current?

Samantha   Location unknown

3:07pm on Friday, December 21st, 2007 

Ultimate Real Estate Investors Guide...
I am fairly new to investing in Real Estate but I finally decided to do something about my financial situation and took the plunge with Tom's Ultimate Real Estate investors Guide course. So far I learned two methods which will earn me $16,300 after 2 months of work. and by being part of his team I also got access to some amazing networking opportunities, Thanks for everything Tom!!!

Jim H   Location unknown

2:57pm on Friday, December 21st, 2007 

Very solid course on how to get large lines of credit. I've just finished setting up my RE investing LLC and have several projects in the works for which I'll be using the credit lines for.